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St. Marys officials again threaten library because of LGBTQ books - Kansas Reflector

ST. MARYS — Gerard Kleinsmith says he hates the idea of censorship.

He just wants to pull the lease for the city’s public library because he doesn’t like books about transgender people.
As a city commissioner, he feels it is his duty to remove transgender content — “garbage,” as he refers to it. Kleinsmith said during a city commission meeting that removing the library was part of his job as a city official, emphasizing “God doesn’t make mistakes,” and his belief that people can’t change genders.
“My goal is to terminate the lease with the library,” Kleinsmith said. “If they want to have their library, so be it. Go do it. Find another building to do it in, I can’t stop that. My intention is not to stop that, but I will not ever vote for any taxpayer money, facilities, anything to be used anywhere that houses this kind of garbage.”
He is supported in this stance by the other members of St. Marys’ five-person city commission, a heavily religious group that attends the Society of St. Pius X, or SSPX, an extreme religious sect that broke away from the Catholic church. The commissioners have said at previous meetings that [color=var(--link_blue)]their views are influenced by their religious affiliation[/url].[/font][/color]
“Some things are wrong,” said commissioner Richard Binsfeld, during a city commission discussion about  transgender books and the transgender community at large. “If you live up to your morals, if you stand by your morals at all, you’d look at it and say, ‘Why do we have it?'”
The public library has been under scrutiny from local officials for months, narrowly surviving an attempt to pull the lease at the end of last year. Library director Judith Cremer said she and her staff were trying to work with the commissioners while remaining in accordance with legal guidelines for public libraries.
She’s still not sure why the commissioners have taken issue with the library in recent months when it had operated in its St. Marys location for decades without problems. Cremer has held her position since 2003, and until last year, this was a position without controversy.
“We’re not part of the city structure and the lease agreement is the only leverage that they have seemed to be able to find,” Cremer said. “They seem to be continuing down that road, which I’m disappointed with because we have still been here doing our job, trying to help people, trying to do summer reading, and I feel like it’s a misunderstanding of who we are. We are trying to do our job and we have followed the rules.”
While commissioners have no governing influence over the library, the Pottawatomie Wabaunsee Regional Library would be forced to shift locations if the lease isn’t renewed, giving up a community spot it has held for decades and depriving St. Marys residents of easily accessible library material.
The library has been housed in St. Marys since the 1980s, operating on an annual lease with the city. The library acts as the headquarters for eight locations, including Alma, Alta Vista, Eskridge, Harveyville, Olsburg, Onaga, St. Marys and Westmoreland, with county residents funding the library through taxes.
An eight-member board of trustees provides oversight of the library’s operations, with Pottawatomie and Wabaunsee County commissioners appointing members to the board to serve four-year terms. The commission doesn’t have influence over board decisions.
The library formed an advisory group in an attempt to address community concerns with library materials, but efforts toward reconciliation have been unsuccessful.
The library’s lease renewal came up for debate last year because the library refused to accept a renewal clause asking for the removal of all LGBTQ and socially divisive books from the shelves. Facing intense public pressure, the commission in December [color=var(--link_blue)]renewed the lease[/url] for one year.[/font][/color]
Now, city commissioners have renewed their campaign against LGBTQ books, despite federal legal protections for public libraries.

During the April city commission meeting, Kleinsmith raged against the book “Rethinking Normal: A Memoir in Transition,” a coming of age story about a transgender teenager.

“This author is absolutely wrong. God does not make mistakes,” Kleinsmith said. “God cannot make a mistake. We can make mistakes. Mankind can make a mistake. God cannot make a mistake. … I will do everything I can to fight this kind of garbage.”
“If God makes you as a male, you are a male,” he added. “If God makes you a female, you are a female, no matter what.”
St. Marys Mayor Matthew Childs, who formulated the anti-LGBTQ renewal clause last year, said during the April meeting that the library’s contents would once again influence the commission’s decision to renew the lease.
“We don’t want transgender books in the library. … The elephant in the room is that we don’t want the library to be promoting certain types of material,” Childs said. “If the library is, we come back to the question, do we want to renew it at all?”
Sharon Brett, legal director for the American Civil Liberties Union of Kansas, which warned commissioners to drop their censorship attempts during the [color=var(--link_blue)]first lease renewal discussion[/url], said city officials need to remember constitutional protections.[/font][/color]
“Each member of the commission should remember that their own discomfort with a certain book does not justify restricting its availability to everyone else in the community,” Brett said. “Not only is this potential censorship authoritarian, it has implications under even a basic reading of our First Amendment. We urge the commission to remember their obligations under the Constitution.”
Cremer said she and the library board had been trying to cooperate with the commission and concerned residents as much as possible.
“We’re providing services to the community,” Cremer said. “We’re taking care of the same people. I don’t see why there should be a problem.”
Following the April commission meeting, she sent a letter to the commissioners asking them to directly address their concerns with library staff, as they had a process in place to review book complaints.
Library staff are also participating in the advisory committee. Cremer said the library was sending regular updates about the library and the advisory committee’s work to the city commission.
But she is still fielding criticism from religious members of the community, including during a contentious June 28 library board meeting attended by Binsfeld and other St. Marys residents. 
“As we move forward, we would like to see that all LGBTQ+ media — whether audio files, movies, books, activities, etc. — be removed from this branch altogether and from any access, including online ordering and inter-library loans, to any minor through this branch,” resident Stephen Murtha wrote in a letter to library board members.
The library should reflect the community’s Christian majority, Murtha wrote.
Cremer said for the most part, these complaints were from a small segment of the population and that she hasn’t had problems or complaints from a majority of library customers.
But she is concerned about the future of the library.
“We have continued, even though that stress and controversy has been significant,” Cremer said. “My staff and I have continued forward just as we always have to provide those services, because it’s not the people that we’re serving, it’s not their fault, but they’re the ones that are going to be losing.”




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Re: St. Marys officials again threaten library because of LGBTQ books
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2023, 12:43:39 PM »
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  • Today's public library's are filled with soft-core porn, and are no place for children.

    The county library near my house had a special display set up for pride month just for kids (They're not targeting the kids, though!!).

    Little fαɢɢօt books to confuse the kids and turn them into little fαɢs, furries, transtesticals, and degenerates of all kinds.

    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: St. Marys officials again threaten library because of LGBTQ books
    « Reply #2 on: July 12, 2023, 12:54:18 PM »
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  • Time for a Fahrenheit 451 initiative. 
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
    Nisi  tu Deus noster

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    Re: St. Marys officials again threaten library because of LGBTQ books
    « Reply #3 on: July 12, 2023, 06:12:59 PM »
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  • Pornography has no place in a publicly funded facility.  How about organizing a large number of people with morals to each sign out a book or two?  Then the books can just happen to not be returned, preferably because they’ve been burned and the ashes flushed down the toilet or used as mulch?

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    Re: St. Marys officials again threaten library because of LGBTQ books
    « Reply #4 on: July 12, 2023, 09:24:51 PM »
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  • Pornography has no place in a publicly funded facility.  How about organizing a large number of people with morals to each sign out a book or two?  Then the books can just happen to not be returned, preferably because they’ve been burned and the ashes flushed down the toilet or used as mulch?
    I like your version of what I called the "Fahrenheit 451" solution. 

    Burn the books to ashes, then burn the ashes. 
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
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    Re: St. Marys officials again threaten library because of LGBTQ books
    « Reply #5 on: July 12, 2023, 11:53:32 PM »
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  • That's why I create my own library. 

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    Re: St. Marys officials again threaten library because of LGBTQ books
    « Reply #6 on: July 13, 2023, 02:21:55 AM »
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  • Create a second, private library away from taxpayer money and keep the public one. Remember, the library is part of the county system at-large; there are a lot of families in Pottawatomie County and St. Mary's that are NOT Society. This way, both sides have their option.
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    Re: St. Marys officials again threaten library because of LGBTQ books
    « Reply #7 on: July 13, 2023, 11:35:03 AM »
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  • Create a second, private library away from taxpayer money and keep the public one. Remember, the library is part of the county system at-large; there are a lot of families in Pottawatomie County and St. Mary's that are NOT Society. This way, both sides have their option.
    I, for one, disagree.  I think they are on the right track.  Stand up to these people who want their filth in the public library.  Do not extend the lease.  Force them to look elsewhere for their filthy inventory of books.


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    Re: St. Marys officials again threaten library because of LGBTQ books
    « Reply #8 on: July 13, 2023, 03:12:20 PM »
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  • I, for one, disagree.  I think they are on the right track.  Stand up to these people who want their filth in the public library.  Do not extend the lease.  Force them to look elsewhere for their filthy inventory of books.
    That too makes sense, especially with the nature of the books. 

    It's going to be a long battle because it's clear that the city council and the county see eye to eye on absolutely nothing.
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    Re: St. Marys officials again threaten library because of LGBTQ books
    « Reply #9 on: July 13, 2023, 03:58:53 PM »
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  • Create a second, private library away from taxpayer money and keep the public one. Remember, the library is part of the county system at-large; there are a lot of families in Pottawatomie County and St. Mary's that are NOT Society. This way, both sides have their option.
    That’s not Catholic at all.  Remove the filth.  That’s the only Catholic option.  Evil shouldn’t be an option.  
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    Re: St. Marys officials again threaten library because of LGBTQ books
    « Reply #10 on: July 13, 2023, 04:47:14 PM »
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  • That’s not Catholic at all.  Remove the filth.  That’s the only Catholic option.  Evil shouldn’t be an option. 
    Yes. I posited the idea of the private library only because they had this problem last year too, only to seem to make zero progress.

    Remove the objectionable material and keep the library. That is the way to do things that appeases the two warring factions. 
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    Re: St. Marys officials again threaten library because of LGBTQ books
    « Reply #11 on: July 13, 2023, 05:06:16 PM »
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  • This about good vs evil. 

    Thanks St Mary’s for being true Catholics. 



    Lgbtq+ promoters have zero rights.  The “plus sign”is people attracted to children.    They are a bunch of pedophiles grooming children through books.  This is satanism. 

    So sick of lukewarm Catholics. 
    Time for me to go pray and take a break from lukewarm Catholics and technology.











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    Re: St. Marys officials again threaten library because of LGBTQ books
    « Reply #12 on: July 13, 2023, 05:18:12 PM »
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  • This about good vs evil. 

    Thanks St Mary’s for being true Catholics. 



    Lgbtq+ promoters have zero rights.  The “plus sign”is people attracted to children.    They are a bunch of pedophiles grooming children through books.  This is evil atheism.

    So sick of lukewarm Catholics. 
    Time for me to go pray and take a break from lukewarm Catholics and technology.
    Agree. Ultimately in the end, I see the county losing the fight for the library.
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    Re: St. Marys officials again threaten library because of LGBTQ books
    « Reply #13 on: July 13, 2023, 07:23:14 PM »
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  • they’ve been burned and the ashes flushed down the toilet or used as mulch?

    FIFY. :cowboy: (Mulch finds it way into whatever gets mulched.)
    Let nothing disturb you, let nothing frighten you, all things pass away: God never changes. Patience obtains all things. He who has God finds he lacks nothing; God alone suffices. - St. Teresa of Jesus

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    Re: St. Marys officials again threaten library because of LGBTQ books
    « Reply #14 on: July 14, 2023, 12:00:09 AM »
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  • FIFY. :cowboy: (Mulch finds it way into whatever gets mulched.)
    That’s right.  I wouldn’t want the mulch in the vegetable garden.  Maybe make them into lye soap and use it to clean the library?