John Steven posted this:"Something that was said earlier in the thread is worth expounding on, namely how many of these problems can be traced to the laity? Wasn't there even a whole series of sermons recorded years ago by Fr. Doran when he was in Post Falls that stemmed from the very issue of families moving there without any means of support causing massive strain on the parish resources?"

Umm I am certain this is not your personal opinion. However, I wonder what St. Vincent DePaul would say. Or even Jesus Christ.
Does anyone know their faith anymore???
What a shameful thing for someone to say. And, this came from a priest???
Well, thanks to Hussien Obama in the White House many will fall from their high horse.

John Steven posted this:"Something that was said earlier in the thread is worth expounding on, namely how many of these problems can be traced to the laity? Wasn't there even a whole series of sermons recorded years ago by Fr. Doran when he was in Post Falls that stemmed from the very issue of families moving there without any means of support causing massive strain on the parish resources?"

Umm I am certain this is not your personal opinion. However, I wonder what St. Vincent DePaul would say. Or even Jesus Christ.
Does anyone know their faith anymore???
What a shameful thing for someone to say. And, this came from a priest???
Well, thanks to Hussien Obama in the White House many will fall from their high horse.

Let me see if I am following you and the others on this issue.

You all seem to be in favor of a family picking up and relocating to an area with no job lined up and then calling the other parishioners (who the majority are no doubt themselves barely making ends meet) and priests uncharitable for being unable to support them and discouraging further families from doing such?

It's not a question of charity, its a question of prudence and no man should uproot his family and expect others to support him.

What faith are people being ignorant of?

What does "Hussien Obama" have to do with this and what are you suggesting by this comment?  

Hi John- No, I have not listened to the sermons, and it is fair that there are two sides to every story.

 I 100% agree that no man should uproot his family somewhere and expect that others will support his family for him.

Is it true the priest encourages the dowery?

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Do the priests advise Traditional Catholic girls to avoid non-Trad men or any other possible bad company? If not then that's horribly inconsistent; though from what I have heard from a sermon touching on this subject from an SSPX priest, it would seem that they do.

Can you believe a very large percentage of the children are sent to public high school?

Yes, I know. Some are converts to Tradition which is a bit more understandable, though these seem to be the minority.  Some from what I understand were kicked out of Trad schools for disciplinary reasons and are thus sent (back) to public schools.

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I was sitting in the pew with my husband when he said it.  He also favored the school run along the lines of a military academy.

Sounds like a terrible idea.  The last thing Catholics need is priests, brothers and the relatives of favored laity acting like drill sergeants.

Every morning he had those boys lined up and a retired military man ran them through drills.  

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Some from what I understand were kicked out of Trad schools for disciplinary reasons and are thus sent (back) to public schools.

I'm not sure the decision not to send to trad schools is related to discipline in most cases.  Generally I would guess not.

But it's pretty clear, there's something haywire, a kind of very unfortunate compartmentalization, that on the one hand is willing to accept a public school environment but on the other hand teaches a kind of Jansenist morality about interaction with the opposite sex that would even forbid speaking after mass?

It's conducive to keeping up appearances but it could hardly be conducive to morality.

What would a catholic school master do when a student brings bad books and movies with himself? Or when a girl is collecting phone numbers of her classmates and distributes phone numbers boys among them?????

 Militarism is an attempt to supply for a defect by those who do not have supernatural faith.  Rigid, aggressive, disallows the working of other virtues.  It's a terrible mistake in thinking even by traditional priests.    

You can say that again.  

The lack of supernatural faith, education, grace, manners, talent, charity..the revenge of the white trash in some cases.

Apparently, not every SSPX chapel is like Telesphorus' old SSPX chapel.

Makes you wonder why he's continually extending the particular to the universal.

Fr. X was out of line.
Fr. X is an SSPX priest.
SSPX priests are out of line.

Yes, if you grant the unspoken minor, that Fr. X is the same thing as all SSPX priests!

I haven't heard anything from Telesphorus that suggests his experience is any broader than just the one chapel. Tele -- correct me if I'm wrong.

Matthew