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Offline AMDGJMJ

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SSPX question...Our Lady Queen of Angels in FL
« on: January 29, 2024, 06:09:43 AM »
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    • Does anyone know which SSPX priest is currently at this location?

    https://florida.sspx.org/en/Our-Lady-Queen-Angels_ft-myers

    A friend of mine is taking a trip down there and we were discussing how to find out if the priest there would be valid or a novus ordo one.
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    Re: SSPX question...Our Lady Queen of Angels in FL
    « Reply #1 on: January 29, 2024, 06:33:21 AM »
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    • It says a lot when there seems to be a thread like this once a week.

    Google search on Father Jamey Rigi indicates that he was ordained at STAS in 2016, so he’s good … unless you come across some anonymous fill-in.
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    Re: SSPX question...Our Lady Queen of Angels in FL
    « Reply #2 on: January 29, 2024, 06:41:42 AM »
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    • If you have a name, you can usually find some notice or article about their ordination on the internet … if they were ordained by the SSPX.  If you don’t find that, they likely weren’t and then you have to dig more.  SSPX don’t publish lists of priest assignments anymore.  I wonder why.
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    Re: SSPX question...Our Lady Queen of Angels in FL
    « Reply #3 on: January 29, 2024, 06:49:18 AM »
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    • I linked over to St. Thomas More priory and found the curious notice about not calling the priory “before 10 AM or during meals”.  They must take their meals very seriously there.  “I have a dying relative, so please come after brunch.”

    Since that chapel is served out of Sanford, it’s possible that they rotate in one of the NO priests from there, so you might have to check each week.  If you have no other option, you may be stuck with memorizing Father Rigi’s face and if you show up there and see someone else to just refrain from Holy Communion.  Of course, even if Father Rigi is there, if he distributes Holy Communion from a ciborium in the tabernacle, you may not know. It’s a shame that one has to deal with the SSPX Russian roulette of NO priests.
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    Re: SSPX question...Our Lady Queen of Angels in FL
    « Reply #4 on: January 29, 2024, 01:08:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 29, 2024, 06:33:21 AM
    It says a lot when there seems to be a thread like this once a week.

    Google search on Father Jamey Rigi indicates that he was ordained at STAS in 2016, so he’s good … unless you come across some anonymous fill-in.

    He's valid, yes. But formed in the "new way" after the Changes in the SSPX that took place after 2003. Changes in seminary formation took place at that time, which is why the newer generation of priests is different: they had a different formation. And all the differences bring them closer to the Conciliar Church.

    So beware. Yes, you might have a valid Mass, but is that all you're after? What about a Traditional priest? Shouldn't you at least support, or look for, something better? Like the Resistance (basically "old SSPX")?
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    Re: SSPX question...Our Lady Queen of Angels in FL
    « Reply #5 on: January 29, 2024, 01:16:35 PM »
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    • Fr Rigi was the pastor at our former chapel.  He takes his priesthood seriously and his sermons stick to fundamentals. He does say "beautiful" a lot.  He's young and I think he's probably a millennial. He has no tolerance for people who are pretending to convert to the catholic faith for material gain. I liked him.
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    Re: SSPX question...Our Lady Queen of Angels in FL
    « Reply #6 on: January 29, 2024, 01:18:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on January 29, 2024, 01:08:13 PM
    He's valid, yes. But formed in the "new way" after the Changes in the SSPX that took place after 2003. Changes in seminary formation took place at that time, which is why the newer generation of priests is different: they had a different formation. And all the differences bring them closer to the Conciliar Church.

    So beware. Yes, you might have a valid Mass, but is that all you're after? What about a Traditional priest? Shouldn't you at least support, or look for, something better? Like the Resistance (basically "old SSPX")?

    I think this individual was just looking for a one-time attendance while visiting the area, so probably OK as one-off, but I'd agree in general.
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    Re: SSPX question...Our Lady Queen of Angels in FL
    « Reply #7 on: January 29, 2024, 02:32:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on January 29, 2024, 01:08:13 PM
    Yes, you might have a valid Mass, but is that all you're after? What about a Traditional priest? Shouldn't you at least support, or look for, something better? Like the Resistance (basically "old SSPX")?
    If a person is just passing through, the valid Mass should be enough. A priest's instruction and opinions as expressed in sermons and the confessional would be a concern were one planning an extended visit to habitual attendance at a Mass location.
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    Re: SSPX question...Our Lady Queen of Angels in FL
    « Reply #8 on: January 29, 2024, 02:41:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 29, 2024, 06:49:18 AM
    I linked over to St. Thomas More priory and found the curious notice about not calling the priory “before 10 AM or during meals”.  They must take their meals very seriously there.  “I have a dying relative, so please come after brunch.”

    Since that chapel is served out of Sanford, it’s possible that they rotate in one of the NO priests from there, so you might have to check each week.  If you have no other option, you may be stuck with memorizing Father Rigi’s face and if you show up there and see someone else to just refrain from Holy Communion.  Of course, even if Father Rigi is there, if he distributes Holy Communion from a ciborium in the tabernacle, you may not know. It’s a shame that one has to deal with the SSPX Russian roulette of NO priests.
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    Re: SSPX question...Our Lady Queen of Angels in FL
    « Reply #9 on: January 29, 2024, 02:45:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 29, 2024, 06:49:18 AM
    I linked over to St. Thomas More priory and found the curious notice about not calling the priory “before 10 AM or during meals”.  They must take their meals very seriously there.  “I have a dying relative, so please come after brunch.”

    Since that chapel is served out of Sanford, it’s possible that they rotate in one of the NO priests from there, so you might have to check each week.  If you have no other option, you may be stuck with memorizing Father Rigi’s face and if you show up there and see someone else to just refrain from Holy Communion.  Of course, even if Father Rigi is there, if he distributes Holy Communion from a ciborium in the tabernacle, you may not know. It’s a shame that one has to deal with the SSPX Russian roulette of NO priests.

    Yes, Fr. Rigi is the pastor of that church, but Fr. Settimo was the previous priest.  The SSPX in Florida rotates their priests; for example, Fr. Pieroni and Fr. Gerrity celebrate mass in Davie and West Palm Beach.

      
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    Re: SSPX question...Our Lady Queen of Angels in FL
    « Reply #10 on: January 29, 2024, 03:43:47 PM »
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    • Hmmm.  And weren't Frs. Settimo and Pieroni the ones there were questions about regarding their ordination status?

    In that case, someone might be playing Russian roulette with the Sacraments attending there on any given Sunday.

    If it were I (as I have positive doubt about NO ordinations), and had nowhere else to go, I would assist at Sunday Mass there, hoping it was one of the valid ones that day, but not approach the Sacraments.  Sad state the SSPX have fallen into.  Do they realize the gravity of what they're doing?  If in fact those priests are not valid, they would have to answer to God for depriving people of valid Sacraments.
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    Re: SSPX question...Our Lady Queen of Angels in FL
    « Reply #11 on: January 30, 2024, 05:50:20 AM »
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    • Thank you everyone for the responses.  Yes, it is a one-time visit while on a trip.  If anyone knows of a better chapel close by I think my friend would be interested but otherwise I guess she will just have to proceed but with caution.

    It would be great to have a list with pictures of all the novus ordo priests who have joined the SSPX ranks without conditional ordination so that us common people could recognize them upon sight.  Almost like a wanted list...  :popcorn:
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    Re: SSPX question...Our Lady Queen of Angels in FL
    « Reply #12 on: January 30, 2024, 06:39:56 AM »
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    • My two-cents: Fr. Rigi is a very good Priest, his sermons are worth the “price of admission” so to speak…I cannot speak to his ordination 
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    Re: SSPX question...Our Lady Queen of Angels in FL
    « Reply #13 on: January 30, 2024, 07:30:28 AM »
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    • Quote from: AMDGJMJ on January 30, 2024, 05:50:20 AM
    Thank you everyone for the responses.  Yes, it is a one-time visit while on a trip.  If anyone knows of a better chapel close by I think my friend would be interested but otherwise I guess she will just have to proceed but with caution.

    It would be great to have a list with pictures of all the novus ordo priests who have joined the SSPX ranks without conditional ordination so that us common people could recognize them upon sight.  Almost like a wanted list...  :popcorn:
    Dear AMDGJMJ,
    I like your idea--sort of like baseball cards for true priests!  Please tell your friend that  Fr. James Philip Haynos is still stationed in Stanford.  He is recovering from back surgery after an accident, but is offering the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass every day.  She would need to contact him at the priory for information about when and where.  He was ordained in 1986 by Archbishop Lefebvre, and is a holy priest.
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    Re: SSPX question...Our Lady Queen of Angels in FL
    « Reply #14 on: January 30, 2024, 08:02:25 AM »
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    • It may not be bad to keep a running thread based on what people find out about different ordinations.

    SSPX used to have a publication (that my brother and I always kept a copy of) ... I forget it's name right at the moment, though it's on the tip of my tongue/brain (perhaps Elwin recalls), which listed all the priests every ordained in SSPX and their date of ordination.  But I don't think they have that now, and you can't even find a list of "Priest Assignments" on the SSPX websites ... since about 2020 or so.

    They haven't updated this link since Summer 2020 ...
    https://sspx.org/en/priests-assignments-district-united-states

    I'm not sure what they're up to, as this would be very good information for the faithful to have.  I'd like to understand their motivation to keep this information under wraps, so the speculation tends toward some kind of attitude along the lines of, "It's none of the faithful's business which priest we send them.  They are to accept whoever we send without question.  We know they're valid, and these ignorant/untrained faithful are in no position to second guess us."
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