Author Topic: SSPX manifesto? 2 (Read 1049 times)

CampeadorShin · « **on:** April 28, 2007, 09:06:38 PM »

Does anyone know where I can find a docuмent that can qualify as an SSPX manifesto?

EDIT
I'm looking for a good docuмent that the SSPX uses to explain their positions towards V2 and the novelties of the "concilliar" minded (neo)Catholics.

Daniel · « **Reply #1 on:** April 28, 2007, 11:16:20 PM »

http://www.cin.org/users/james/ebooks/master/trent/tindex.htm

http://www.newadvent.org/summa/

There you go mate, parts 1&2 of the SSPX manifesto.

Cletus · « **Reply #2 on:** April 29, 2007, 01:12:27 AM »

It's always good to be referred to those texts. If only our lives as Catholics were as simple as abiding by such teachings. If only there had been only one Pentecost for Catholics to contend with... If only there were no Vatican II.

The bishops and priests of the SSPV accept the SUMMA and the Catechism of the Council of Trent too. Conservative Novus Ordo Catholics accept them too, according to the modifications or corrections or updatings or shifts in emphasis deemed necessary by the Holy Ghost-protected Vicar of Jesus Christ, the Supreme Pontiff, the Successor of Peter, the dear Holy Father. I don't see how they can be said to qualify as a manifesto of the SSPX particularly.

Should we add to our treasured pre-Vatican II texts the famous pastoral exhortation of Bishop Sarto (later Pius X) on the complete submission of mind and will which the pious Catholic must render to the Vicar of Christ in all that he says and does, even if it does not attain even to the level of the Ordinary Magisterium?

There is nothing from the earlier days of the SSPX which qualifies as an SSPX "manifesto." The famous jeremiads of the so-called hot summer of 1976, which for some Traditionalists qualify as PERSONAL foundational texts for them as Traditionalists, were more of an anguished cri du couer, and His Excellency subsequently distanced himself from them.

To answer a simple question simply: those seeking a docuмent that is along the lines of a SSPX manifesto should go to the SSPX website and check out joint statements made by the four SSPX bishops of the present day about what the SSPX is all about and what's going on with it. That is as close as one will get to anything that could be called an SSPX manifesto.

Clodovicus · « **Reply #3 on:** May 07, 2007, 04:58:38 PM »

SSPX manifesto?
Here you are:
St. Peter Canisius, Doctor of the Church, 16th Century: "Better that only a few Catholics should be left, staunch and sincere in their
religion, than that they should, remaining many, desire as it were, to be in collusion with the Church's enemies and in conformity with the open foes of our faith."

CampeadorShin · « **Reply #4 on:** May 07, 2007, 08:45:08 PM »

There are plenty of Novus Ordo goers that will claim to conform to that.

I'm talking about something that will make a Novus Ordo goer say "Oh, so that's why you don't like the Second Vatican Council or the Novus Ordo mass or the postConcilliar novelties".

Kephapaulos · « **Reply #5 on:** May 08, 2007, 11:47:24 PM »

I do not know how many NOers would take the SSPX too seriously right now though, El Campeador. It seems very few if any would at this point. Right now, there seems to be some kind of better disposition toward the fullness of Catholic Tradition among somewhere in the NO, but there is still lack of the genuine concern for salvation. If the Catholic sense came back, there would no longer be influence of the ideas of religious liberty, collegialtiy, or ecuмenism.