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Re: SSPX Article Against Flat-Erthism
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2023, 04:33:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on June 12, 2023, 04:29:43 PM
    That will be up for debate, but what is certain is that holding ALL "scientific" conclusions doubtful is clearly an error which necessarily leads to delusion.

    What type of modern science do you hold as not being doubtful at all?
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    Re: SSPX Article Against Flat-Erthism
    « Reply #31 on: June 12, 2023, 04:36:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on June 11, 2023, 12:38:23 PM
    Written on my birthday.  That's a sign.  :laugh1:

    If SSPX is against it, I'm even more inclined to be for it.

    This article is so riddled with errors and oversimplifications that it could take a day to shred it apart ... and it's not worth the time.

    Wait, what?  Do you believe the Earth is flat?
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    Re: SSPX Article Against Flat-Erthism
    « Reply #32 on: June 12, 2023, 05:11:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on June 12, 2023, 04:33:49 PM
    What type of modern science do you hold as not being doubtful at all?

    Gravity, mathematics, earth's rotation, just for starters.
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    Re: SSPX Article Against Flat-Erthism
    « Reply #33 on: June 12, 2023, 05:35:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on June 12, 2023, 05:11:41 PM
    Gravity, mathematics, earth's rotation, just for starters.

    Any long range shooter knows this, from something called the Coriolis Effect:


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    Re: SSPX Article Against Flat-Erthism
    « Reply #34 on: June 12, 2023, 06:11:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on June 12, 2023, 05:11:41 PM
    Gravity, mathematics, earth's rotation, just for starters.

    Okay. Does the Catholic Church require that we adhere to what modern science teaches? I don't think that the Church does require this.

    There are a few areas of science that I do trust, but only because I can verify them. For example, one area of the atmospheric sciences called meteorology, or the study of weather and weather prediction. It's easy to verify what the weather forecasters are saying by simply looking out of the window. Of course one area of this branch of science also teaches climate change. I do not accept the current modern model of climate change. It seems evident that there's an agenda there. There are other areas I partly trust, but only as far as I can verify them as much as possible.
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    Re: SSPX Article Against Flat-Erthism
    « Reply #35 on: June 12, 2023, 06:29:37 PM »
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    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: SSPX Article Against Flat-Erthism
    « Reply #36 on: June 12, 2023, 06:32:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on June 12, 2023, 06:11:17 PM
    Okay. Does the Catholic Church require that we adhere to what modern science teaches? I don't think that the Church does require this.

    There are a few areas of science that I do trust, but only because I can verify them. For example, one area of the atmospheric sciences is called meteorology, or the study of weather and weather prediction. It's easy to verify what the weather forecasters are saying by simply looking out of the window. Of course one area of this branch of science also teaches climate change. I do not accept the current modern model of climate change. It seems evident that there's an agenda there. There are other areas I partly trust, but only as far as I can verify them as much as possible.
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    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: SSPX Article Against Flat-Erthism
    « Reply #37 on: June 12, 2023, 06:43:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on June 12, 2023, 05:35:42 PM
    Any long range shooter knows this, from something called the Coriolis Effect:




    Sorry, nope:

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/rv2u9fx41NoB/
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    Re: SSPX Article Against Flat-Erthism
    « Reply #38 on: June 12, 2023, 06:46:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on June 12, 2023, 05:35:42 PM
    Any long range shooter knows this, from something called the Coriolis Effect:

    :facepalm: ... snipers indicate that they make no allowance for any such effect.
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    Re: SSPX Article Against Flat-Erthism
    « Reply #39 on: June 12, 2023, 06:47:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Durango77 on June 12, 2023, 02:12:12 PM
    I'm not sure either way flat or sphere, I'm definitely open to the idea that the earth is flat because at this point my trust in "science" is basically 0 just due to what I saw happening during covid.  But are there any models that accurately predict the movement of the moon, eclipses, planets and stars that use flat earth as the basis?


    This gives a pretty good visual:

    HOW THE SOUTHERN STARS WORK ON FLAT EARTH

    6min 47sec
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/zMCL7aMvP19Z/
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    Re: SSPX Article Against Flat-Erthism
    « Reply #40 on: June 12, 2023, 06:50:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on June 12, 2023, 05:11:41 PM
    Gravity, mathematics, earth's rotation, just for starters.

    Earth's rotation?  Earth does not move.

    Gravity?  Gravity has never been proven to exist, and even mainstream physicists are questioning its existence as anything independent of electromagnetism.  There's a lecture online from an MIT professor of physics who was teaching that gravity is such a weak force that it has no effect on earth, that what we see on earth is due to electromagnetism, and that gravity only works between planets.  Except that their cosmological predictions based on gravity are so far off, by orders of magnitude, that they had to invent "dark matter" to account for huge amounts of "missing gravity".
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    Re: SSPX Article Against Flat-Erthism
    « Reply #41 on: June 12, 2023, 06:51:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: SPelli on June 12, 2023, 04:36:11 PM
    Wait, what?  Do you believe the Earth is flat?

    Certainly I believe that the earth is flat.  It's been demonstrated repeatedly through experiment beyond any reasonable doubt.
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    Re: SSPX Article Against Flat-Erthism
    « Reply #42 on: June 12, 2023, 07:24:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on June 12, 2023, 06:50:41 PM
    Earth's rotation?  Earth does not move.

    Gravity?  Gravity has never been proven to exist, and even mainstream physicists are questioning its existence as anything independent of electromagnetism.  There's a lecture online from an MIT professor of physics who was teaching that gravity is such a weak force that it has no effect on earth, that what we see on earth is due to electromagnetism, and that gravity only works between planets.  Except that their cosmological predictions based on gravity are so far off, by orders of magnitude, that they had to invent "dark matter" to account for huge amounts of "missing gravity".

    You are delusional.

    All you need to do to prove me wrong is go to the edge of the world and take a pic for me (and then jump over the side: If there’s no gravity, you won’t fall).

    Any reason you (and any other flat earther) can’t do that???

    As for gravity, I prove it every time I drop something.

    And for the earth rotating, it is infallibly certain, or I couldn’t hit a one mile shot without factoring in coriolos effect.
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    Re: SSPX Article Against Flat-Erthism
    « Reply #43 on: June 12, 2023, 09:15:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on June 12, 2023, 07:24:57 PM
    You are delusional.

    All you need to do to prove me wrong is go to the edge of the world and take a pic for me (and then jump over the side: If there’s no gravity, you won’t fall).

    Any reason you (and any other flat earther) can’t do that???

    As for gravity, I prove it every time I drop something.

    And for the earth rotating, it is infallibly certain, or I couldn’t hit a one mile shot without factoring in coriolos effect.
    This is a dishonest or ignorant post (strawman/misrepresentation). The Antarctic treaty has been discussed many times. No one claims that the earth is a flat 'pancake' that you can walk off... They all claim a dome/barrier around it.

    Most flat earths will say density instead of gravity. But the real question is why the direction of density is up/down instead of something else. Gravity is just the current theory.

    There are no dogmatic doctrines on a spinning earth. It is far from infallible certainty... 
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    Re: SSPX Article Against Flat-Erthism
    « Reply #44 on: June 12, 2023, 09:25:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on June 12, 2023, 07:24:57 PM
    You are delusional.

    All you need to do to prove me wrong is go to the edge of the world and take a pic for me (and then jump over the side: If there’s no gravity, you won’t fall).

    Any reason you (and any other flat earther) can’t do that???

    As for gravity, I prove it every time I drop something.

    And for the earth rotating, it is infallibly certain, or I couldn’t hit a one mile shot without factoring in coriolos effect.
    As a seperate question. Do you believe in heliocentrism or geocentrism?
    (note that there is also non-flat earth geocentrism)
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