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Offline Last Tradhican

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Spotting Sodomite Predators in your Chapels
« on: May 13, 2020, 02:00:27 PM »
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  • I do not understand how these sodomite men can get away with these acts upon children and teenagers without any parent, priest, or parishioner noticing anything odd. It takes some time for a sodomite to accomplish his crime and from personal experience it appears to me that the cause of the parishioners blindness to even the thought of a sodomite being in their presence, is that they assume that anyone who comes to their chapel is a serious, holy Catholic. Any person that walks into the chapel has a halo around them.

    My experience has been totally different, for I am of the dying generation (those that founded SSPX chapels) and scarcely see any parishioner who really lives the faith anymore, so I am not blinded by the "halo". I can tell you that if a sodomite predator or any sodomite comes into my USA chapel, I'd be on his case in one minute flat. It has happened already quite a few times with men like that and no one spotted it but me. I chased them away by watching them, warning the parents of the children they were targeting, and praying to God to remove them before I have to take action. He always removes them.

    Here are some of the signs that I have taught boys (relatives) to watch out for:

    - men who are not masculine, who have effeminate mannerisms, what some might erroneously identify as "refined" cultured men.
    - men who touch you. Put there hands on your hands or forearm when they talk or stand behind you with both their hands on your shoulders when they are talking to others. A man might hit a young boy in the back as he goes by, but they are not touchers.
    - men who pickup other peoples children to hold them.
    - men who are always talking to children
    - men who look you in the eye when talking, trying to have you look at them in the eyes.
    - men who are constantly seeking to be alone with boys

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    Re: Spotting Sodomite Predators in your Chapels
    « Reply #1 on: May 13, 2020, 02:28:56 PM »
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  • I do not understand how these sodomite men can get away with these acts upon children and teenagers without any parent, priest, or parishioner noticing anything odd. It takes some time for a sodomite to accomplish his crime and from personal experience it appears to me that the cause of the parishioners blindness to even the thought of a sodomite being in their presence, is that they assume that anyone who comes to their chapel is a serious, holy Catholic. Any person that walks into the chapel has a halo around them.


    Because the spirit of most people at trad chapels is not of Jesus Christ. Their spirit is of the world, thus, God leaves them to error and deception. Today's trad Catholic is the 1950s all over again.


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    Re: Spotting Sodomite Predators in your Chapels
    « Reply #2 on: May 13, 2020, 03:00:42 PM »
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  • Because the spirit of most people at trad chapels is not of Jesus Christ. Their spirit is of the world, thus, God leaves them to error and deception. Today's trad Catholic is the 1950s all over again.
    I think it is because most of the young Trads never fought their way out of the Novus Ordo or neo-paganism (they were born into Tradition, but they never had to choose Tradition) and some of the old Trads that did fight long ago, now felt safe and comfortable as the years went by (Ah, finally, no more fighting) and thus never saw the need to keep vigilant.

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    Re: Spotting Sodomite Predators in your Chapels
    « Reply #3 on: May 13, 2020, 03:27:47 PM »
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    men who touch you.
    That's a big no-no where I come from. almost a golden rule. I do not let another man put a finger on me.

    Some guys have hard to learn the hard way over the years.

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    . Put there hands on your hands or forearm when they talk or stand behind you with both their hands on your shoulders when they are talking to others.
    Um...that is definetly a danger zone for any kind of normal thinking man. If a guy did this to me, he would most likely be eating out of a tube for a while. Or at the very least, he'd be picking his teeth off the ground.

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    - men who pickup other peoples children to hold them.
    Need I say more? ::)





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    Re: Spotting Sodomite Predators in your Chapels
    « Reply #4 on: May 13, 2020, 03:36:33 PM »
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  • I think it is because most of the young Trads never fought their way out of the Novus Ordo or neo-paganism (they were born into Tradition, but they never had to choose Tradition) and some of the old Trads that did fight long ago, now felt safe and comfortable as the years went by (Ah, finally, no more fighting) and thus never saw the need to keep vigilant.
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    Yes, true, but even the old people have got it wrong.  They believe in the SSPX, not
    the Catholic Faith (which opposes Vatican II and Bishop Fellay's acceptance of V II).
    They believe in the Latin Mass as the foundation of Catholicism.  They don't know
    what is going on in SSPX headquarters.  They think Bishop Williamson deserved to
    be expelled.  They think Fellay has "grace of state".  Worse than 1950s.  Blinded by
    the pride of being an SSPXer. 
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    They believe their priests are soooooo good and holy.  Maybe that's why they don't
    see the dangers.
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    Re: Spotting Sodomite Predators in your Chapels
    « Reply #5 on: May 13, 2020, 04:44:59 PM »
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  • Good list of warning signs.  Except:


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    - men who pickup other peoples children to hold them.
    - men who are always talking to children
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    Literally everyone at my chapel does this, including the women, including me.  It's a function (in this case) of a fairly tight-knit community.  Not of us all being sodomite predators.  I think this kind of behavior is more characteristic of sodomites when combined with the other behaviors and when it's children of parents whom they don't know well.  It's rather natural to pick up the children of close friends (when the occasion presents itself, of course).  Much less so to pick up the children of strangers or bare acquaintances.

    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    Re: Spotting Sodomite Predators in your Chapels
    « Reply #6 on: May 13, 2020, 04:55:08 PM »
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  • I think it is because most of the young Trads never fought their way out of the Novus Ordo or neo-paganism (they were born into Tradition, but they never had to choose Tradition) and some of the old Trads that did fight long ago, now felt safe and comfortable as the years went by (Ah, finally, no more fighting) and thus never saw the need to keep vigilant.

    I think it is because old Tradhicans highly esteem themselves but unfortunately failed to protect their children.
    Men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple ... Jerome points this out. (St. Robert Bellarmine)

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    Re: Spotting Sodomite Predators in your Chapels
    « Reply #7 on: May 13, 2020, 05:08:07 PM »
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  • I do not understand how these sodomite men can get away with these acts upon children and teenagers without any parent, priest, or parishioner noticing anything odd. It takes some time for a sodomite to accomplish his crime and from personal experience it appears to me that the cause of the parishioners blindness to even the thought of a sodomite being in their presence, is that they assume that anyone who comes to their chapel is a serious, holy Catholic. Any person that walks into the chapel has a halo around them.

    My experience has been totally different, for I am of the dying generation (those that founded SSPX chapels) and scarcely see any parishioner who really lives the faith anymore, so I am not blinded by the "halo". I can tell you that if a sodomite predator or any sodomite comes into my USA chapel, I'd be on his case in one minute flat. It has happened already quite a few times with men like that and no one spotted it but me. I chased them away by watching them, warning the parents of the children they were targeting, and praying to God to remove them before I have to take action. He always removes them.

    Here are some of the signs that I have taught boys (relatives) to watch out for:

    - men who are not masculine, who have effeminate mannerisms, what some might erroneously identify as "refined" cultured men.
    - men who touch you. Put there hands on your hands or forearm when they talk or stand behind you with both their hands on your shoulders when they are talking to others. A man might hit a young boy in the back as he goes by, but they are not touchers.
    - men who pickup other peoples children to hold them.
    - men who are always talking to children
    - men who look you in the eye when talking, trying to have you look at them in the eyes.
    - men who are constantly seeking to be alone with boys
    A post really in poor taste. That may be in the Novus Ordo, but it certainly is not where Catholics stand fast to the true faith intact.


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    Re: Spotting Sodomite Predators in your Chapels
    « Reply #8 on: May 13, 2020, 07:50:34 PM »
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  • A post really in poor taste. That may be in the Novus Ordo, but it certainly is not where Catholics stand fast to the true faith intact.
    You think that way because like I said: "from personal experience it appears to me that the cause of the parishioners blindness to even the thought of a sodomite being in their presence, is that they assume that anyone who comes to their chapel is a serious, holy Catholic. "

    Unfortunately like I also said, in my experience there are no SSPX chapels where Catholics stand fast to the true faith intact
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    Re: Spotting Sodomite Predators in your Chapels
    « Reply #9 on: May 13, 2020, 07:52:35 PM »
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    I think it is because most of the young Trads never fought their way out of the Novus Ordo or neo-paganism (they were born into Tradition, but they never had to choose Tradition) and some of the old Trads that did fight long ago, now felt safe and comfortable as the years went by (Ah, finally, no more fighting) and thus never saw the need to keep vigilant

    I think it is because old Tradhicans highly esteem themselves but unfortunately failed to protect their children.
    You are both spot on, 100 % correct.
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    Re: Spotting Sodomite Predators in your Chapels
    « Reply #10 on: May 13, 2020, 08:08:54 PM »
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  • Good list of warning signs.  Except:

    Literally everyone at my chapel does this, including the women (I was talking about men picking up children who are not theirs.) including me.  It's a function, in this case of a fairly tight-knit community (it is not common for men to hold other peoples children) .  Not of us all being sodomite predators.  I think this kind of behavior is more characteristic of sodomites when combined with the other behaviors and when it's children of parents whom they don't know well (correct).  It's rather natural to pick up the children of close friends, when the occasion presents itself, of course (What is a close friend? In one sodomite instance when I brought it up to a father, he said the person was a good parishioner, that he had been there a good while and a good friend of the priest. Yet, the person had only been there about two months and was holding his 4 year old daughter  every time he saw her, as well as other daughters under 10 years of age. Nobody even knew where the man lived.)  Much less so to pick up the children of strangers or bare acquaintances. ( where is the dividing line between  close friends and strangers or bare acquaintances?)
    By your response I gather that you are a nice woman. Hopefully there are other men in your chapel to watch over these things of the devil.  My responses in red. God Bless.
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    Re: Spotting Sodomite Predators in your Chapels
    « Reply #11 on: May 13, 2020, 08:19:13 PM »
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  • You think that way because like I said: "from personal experience it appears to me that the cause of the parishioners blindness to even the thought of a sodomite being in their presence, is that they assume that anyone who comes to their chapel is a serious, holy Catholic. "

    Unfortunately like I also said, in my experience there are no SSPX chapels where Catholics stand fast to the true faith intact.
    My exact words in the OP for the second response was actually:

    "My experience has been totally different, for I am of the dying generation (those that founded SSPX chapels) and scarcely see any parishioner who really lives the faith anymore, so I am not blinded by the "halo".
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    Re: Spotting Sodomite Predators in your Chapels
    « Reply #12 on: May 13, 2020, 08:31:44 PM »
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  • - men who look you in the eye when talking, trying to have you look at them in the eyes.
     
    Funny, I was taught to never trust a man who won't look you in the eye.

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    Re: Spotting Sodomite Predators in your Chapels
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  • Funny, I was taught to never trust a man who won't look you in the eye.
    That is different looking, a man will look you in the eye when they are talking, but it is not a deep look, it is a type of scan to make sure you are listening and understanding. It is like comparing the look in the eye that a man gives to an elderly lady or his  secretary both for whom he has no attraction and wants to give no hint of attraction, versus the look the man gives a girl to whom he is interested in and can't hide his interest or wants to make it obvious.

    There is also the look from a distance, here's an example from real life: Two times in my life, while I was at lunch with some other people, a man in another distant table kept looking at me in the eye. I ignored him, but every time I looked his way he was looking at me in the eye and did not turn away. After a while, I got up and went over to him and said to him (with him smiling as if he got the message across to me), is there a problem here (And my face and voice was one of a mafioso asking)? He said: "Oh no, no problem", and that was the end of that.

    Do you understand the difference now? Women would understand what I am saying, because they have to deal with it everyday, for they are the pursued and men are the pursuers. Men are not normally pursued by women and so they are much less aware of "the looks" , actually they are oblivious to it even when women are being obvious about their interest.
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    Re: Spotting Sodomite Predators in your Chapels
    « Reply #14 on: May 14, 2020, 01:42:24 PM »
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  • By your response I gather that you are a nice woman. Hopefully there are other men in your chapel to watch over these things of the devil.  My responses in red. God Bless.
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    I'm a man with a family, although I see that the way I worded things might've implied otherwise.  But just to clarify that.
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    With regard to your comments, I don't think that there's a mathematical line between close friends and acquaintances, but there's certainly a difference.  In this case, our chapel is fairly small and everyone spends a fair amount of time with everyone else outside of the chapel.  Everyone knows each other well and there are lots of children. Small children get picked up and/or talked to by adults who aren't their parents quite regularly.  But again, these people all spend quite a bit of free time together, so I think it's something very different than what you are talking about.
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    If someone came to the chapel who had never been there and set one of my small daughters on their lap and just starting talking her up, my radar would be going off.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).