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Offline epiphany

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Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
« Reply #105 on: April 23, 2022, 12:10:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on April 23, 2022, 11:46:03 AM
    In a thread about eliminating insults the poster unloads with insults. Moreover, the poster is a newbie and has never composed a thought of his  own, posting almost exclusively insults and parroting of others that he follows. I answer the leaders that pose what he follows, I do not have time to answer their followers. My answer is for leaders and followers.
    I thought you are the original poster of this thread.  Am I blind?
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #106 on: April 23, 2022, 12:10:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on April 23, 2022, 11:29:55 AM
    See I don't see it the way you do Matthew. To me it is very simple, a man should not call another man any names unless they want to get a fist in their face. To me calling someone names on the internet is no different than if it was face to face and anyone that does it is just a coward hiding behind a screen and no gentleman. I have no problem eliminating all insults here on CI, but what you write above is not eliminating all insults, it is just justifying one insult over another. I do not think anyone here on CI would say the insults that I Meg, Viva I and and others get regularly and continuously here on CI, that you appear to be justifying above, I do not think that they would say them if they were face to face with me. THAT is the way it should be on CI, talk should be as if we were face to face, two gentlemen.

    Yes, even mindless insults aren't good, and I acknowledged that.

    But as someone trained in rational thought, and who spent time studying at a seminary, I can't help but "Distinguish" and think precisely in this matter.

    It is NOT true that a routine name-call, or throwing someone's past sins in their face in the heat of argument, is the same as a cold, serious, pre-meditated slander of their reputation.

    Just like it takes more Charity/love to endure torture than to endure bumper-to-bumper traffic, likewise it takes less malice or hatred to hastily call someone a 4-letter word in the heat of an argument than it does to think up a slander and utter it with all earnestness.
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #107 on: April 23, 2022, 12:11:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on April 23, 2022, 12:03:51 PM
    As Ladislaus said, why don't YOU cite these horrible things? I'd wager because they don't exist.
    The burden of proof is on you. Come on, you have the Moderator's ear. Let's have it!

    Time to put up or shut up.

    Matthew, I was banned from Fisheaters ten years ago, because I wouldn't shut up about being against the pro-transgender contingent on that forum, which, as you know included the forum owner. Now it's the same thing here. I won't keep my big mouth shut about the pro-pot contingent here, a contingent which evidently includes you. I fully expect to be banned, and I'm only surprised that I haven't been banned before now. 

    You know full well about Mark79's vicious attacks towards me and anyone who strongly disagrees with him. 
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #108 on: April 23, 2022, 12:13:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on April 23, 2022, 12:11:38 PM
    You know full well about Mark79's vicious attacks towards me and anyone who strongly disagrees with him.

    So... you can't produce even one example. Gotcha.

    Can't blame me when the thing I'm supposed to moderate to maintain a good Catholic forum apparently doesn't exist...
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #109 on: April 23, 2022, 12:16:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on April 23, 2022, 11:46:03 AM
    In a thread about eliminating insults the poster unloads with insults. Moreover, the poster is a newbie and has never composed a thought of his  own, posting almost exclusively insults and parroting of others that he follows. I answer the leaders that pose what he follows, I do not have time to answer their followers. My answer is for leaders and followers.
    I don't know, given I've been a regular member here for 2 years, posted tons of my unique threads and am a "Hero" member kind of tells me I'm no longer a newbie.

    But, as I've said many times already, you've decided to attack a caricature of myself and others to boost your ego. So, all I can say is I'll continue to pray for you and hope you respond to the grace.
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #110 on: April 23, 2022, 12:19:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on April 23, 2022, 11:11:49 AM
    Mark79, every time you call LT a "leg spreader" you are *not* helping your case any. You are guilty of the classic blunder of "sinking to his level" …

    Agreed.

    I intend that insult to remind him that he projects his past on others.

    I apologize and will make due amendment.
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #111 on: April 23, 2022, 12:29:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on April 23, 2022, 12:13:30 PM
    So... you can't produce even one example. Gotcha.

    Can't blame me when the thing I'm supposed to moderate to maintain a good Catholic forum apparently doesn't exist...

    Sometimes the unadorned truth is "insulting."

    Even Meg herself just acknowledged her "big mouth," her emotionalism, and obstinacy ("won't").

    When the things she recognizes and admits in herself are reflected back at her, she is "insulted."

    Since she dishes it out by the truckload, she can bloody well take it.… or choose to play victim.… or whatever.

    So tiring.

    How do I apologize for the truth?

    I am reminded of a comment made by former California State Senator Ross Johnson. During a campaign he called his opponent a political whore. His opponent demanded an apology, so Johnson scheduled a press conference for the next day. At the press conference, Ross said, "I am sorry he's a political whore."

    That was a treasured moment. His opponent was apoplectic.
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #112 on: April 23, 2022, 12:57:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on April 23, 2022, 12:11:38 PM
    Matthew, I was banned from Fisheaters ten years ago, because I wouldn't shut up about being against the pro-transgender contingent on that forum, which, as you know included the forum owner. Now it's the same thing here. I won't keep my big mouth shut about the pro-pot contingent here, a contingent which evidently includes you. I fully expect to be banned, and I'm only surprised that I haven't been banned before now.

    You know full well about Mark79's vicious attacks towards me and anyone who strongly disagrees with him.
    Matthew,

    How about instituting a Cathinfo  "Micro-ban",

    Set the post configurations to where Mark and Meg can't use each other's names in post.

    Like Sr. Mary Oda once said: "It's good to separate those two in the classroom."

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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #113 on: April 23, 2022, 01:02:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on April 23, 2022, 12:57:07 PM
    Matthew,

    How about instituting a Cathinfo  "Micro-ban",

    Set the post configurations to where Mark and Meg can't use each other's names in post.

    Like Sr. Mary Oda once said: "It's good to separate those two in the classroom."



    I lean towards an adult solution.


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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #114 on: April 23, 2022, 03:14:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on April 23, 2022, 12:29:28 PM
    Sometimes the unadorned truth is "insulting."

    I am reminded of a comment made by former California State Senator Ross Johnson. During a campaign he called his opponent a political whore. His opponent demanded an apology, so Johnson scheduled a press conference for the next day. At the press conference, Ross said, "I am sorry he's a political whore."

    That was a treasured moment. His opponent was apoplectic.
    I remember that.  Classic!
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #115 on: April 23, 2022, 09:35:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on April 23, 2022, 12:11:38 PM
    I fully expect to be banned, and I'm only surprised that I haven't been banned before now.

    You clearly do not understand Matthew's style or principles of moderating CI.  That said, he told you to "put up or shut up" and you did neither; you just offered some lame nonsense, seeking to garner sympathy for vicious attacks, etc. 

    I have been working far too much to have followed even 5% of the recent shenanigans about pot/weed/herb/ganja/etc, but it is clear one side has had its proverbial ass handed to it.  Take a guess as to which side that is.

    FWIW, you made a post (or two) that made me worry a bit about your faith.  I gave a lengthy, sincere reply to the one wherein you postulated that "Tradition only exists in the mind."  Kant, anyone?  Please read it if you have not.  Godspeed.
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #116 on: April 23, 2022, 09:49:08 PM »
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    • http://www.sobran.com/columns/2002/020718.shtml

    Sobran's from 20 year ago on "the English insult". The English were pretty good at insulting each other I guess.
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #117 on: April 23, 2022, 11:22:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Donachie on April 23, 2022, 09:49:08 PM
    http://www.sobran.com/columns/2002/020718.shtml

    Sobran's from 20 year ago on "the English insult". The English were pretty good at insulting each other I guess.
    Excellent!!  Oh, how I miss Joe!
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