Author Topic: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks (Read 7686 times)

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #45 on:** March 31, 2022, 08:37:01 PM »

Real Church x Sissy Church
It is also important to notice that the Church was emasculated, an emasculation that took place during the process of secularization and establishment of liberal democracies across the Western world (e.g. French Revolution).
The Church had to be softened, becoming an institution that barely resembles the once powerful and great Church of the Crusades or the Inquisitions. This same phenom of emasculation can also happen in other secular institutions too, the Military, mainstream Music, Politics, Sports and even Boys Scouts. And it will only get worse as liberal-democratic globalism advances, so secular people: watch out!
St. Basil the Great, a 4th century bishop and Doctor of the Church, defended that gαy/pedo priests should be publicly flogged. That was the (real) Church, not this sissy catholicism created after the Second Vatican Council (a modernist reform imposed in the Church from 1962 to 1965). A lot of things got bad in the 60s.
The (real) Church has a very important and vigorous story in the construction of the West. Always being a target to the globalists and that breed who rules the world, a clear obstacle to their goals.
Examples are many: Gabriel García Moreno, Catholic Equatorian president, who made a terrific job in a Confessional Equator and was killed by the Freemasons; Saint José Sanchez del Rio, who was killed by Mexican secular, freemason and leftist government with the support of the US, for refusing to abbandon his faith.
Inconvenient truths are ignored
The media only goes after what is convenient to their narrative, don’t expect them to expose Hollywood pedos nor the obvious link between pedo priests and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖism. The left has already pushed the normalization of pedophilia many times and I didn’t see the indignation of the MSM.
Late Vatican’s Chief Exorcist Gabriele Amorth once said, “The Devil resides in the Vatican and you can see the consequences”.
“The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops”. – St. Athanasius

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #46 on:** March 31, 2022, 08:45:04 PM »

1. Athenagoras of Athens (2nd Century)
Athenagoras of Athens was a philosopher who converted to Christianity in the second century. He shows that the pagans, who were totally immoral, did not even refrain from sins against nature:

"But though such is our character (Oh! why should I speak of things unfit to be uttered?), the things said of us are an example of the proverb, 'The harlot reproves the chaste.' For those who have set up a market for fornication and established infamous resorts for the young for every kind of vile pleasure – who do not abstain even from males, males with males committing shocking abominations, outraging all the noblest and comeliest bodies in all sorts of ways, so dishonoring the fair workmanship of God." 1
2. Tertullian (160-225)
Tertullian was a great genius and apologist of the early Church. Unfortunately, after an initial period of fervor, he succuмbed to resentment and pride, left the Church and adhered to the Montanist heresy. Because of works written while still in the Church, he is considered an Ecclesiastical Writer and, as such, is commonly quoted by Popes and theologians. His treatise On Modesty is an apology of Christian chastity. He clearly shows the horror the Church has for sins against nature. After condemning adultery, he exclaims:

"But all the other frenzies of passions–impious both toward the bodies and toward the sexes–beyond the laws of nature, we banish not only from the threshold, but from all shelter of the Church, because they are not sins, but monstrosities." 2
3. Eusebius of Caesarea (260-341)
Eusebius Pamphili, Bishop of Cæsarea in Palestine and the “Father of Church History,” writes in his book, Demonstratio Evangelica:

“[God in the Law given to Moses] having forbidden all unlawful marriage, and all unseemly practice, and the union of women with women and men with men.” 3
4. Saint Jerome (340-420)
Saint Jerome is both Father and Doctor of the Church. He was also a notable exegete and great polemicist. In his book Against Jovinianus, he explains how a sodomite needs repentance and penance to be saved:

“And Sodom and Gomorrah might have appeased it [God’s wrath], had they been willing to repent, and through the aid of fasting gain for themselves tears of repentance.” 4
5. Saint John Chrysostom (347-407)
Saint John Chrysostom is considered the greatest of the Greek Fathers and was proclaimed Doctor of the Church. He was Archbishop and Patriarch of Constantinople, and his revision of the Greek liturgy is used until today. In his sermons about Saint Paul’s Epistle to the Romans, he dwells on the gravity of the sin of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity:
"But if thou scoffest at hearing of hell and believest not that fire, remember Sodom. For we have seen, surely we have seen, even in this present life, a semblance of hell. For since many would utterly disbelieve the things to come after the resurrection, hearing now of an unquenchable fire, God brings them to a right mind by things present. For such is the burning of Sodom, and that conflagration!…

"Consider how great is that sin, to have forced hell to appear even before its time!… For that rain was unwonted, for the intercourse was contrary to nature, and it deluged the land, since lust had done so with their souls. Wherefore also the rain was the opposite of the customary rain. Now not only did it fail to stir up the womb of the earth to the production of fruits, but made it even useless for the reception of seed. For such was also the intercourse of the men, making a body of this sort more worthless than the very land of Sodom. And what is there more detestable than a man who hath pandered himself, or what more execrable? 5
6. Saint Augustine (354-430)
The greatest of the Fathers of the West and one of the great Doctors of the Church, Saint Augustine laid the foundations of Catholic theology. In his celebrated Confessions, he thus condemns ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity:
"Those offences which be contrary to nature are everywhere and at all times to be held in detestation and punished; such were those of the Sodomites, which should all nations commit, they should all be held guilty of the same crime by the divine law, which hath not so made men that they should in that way abuse one another. For even that fellowship which should be between God and us is violated, when that same nature of which He is author is polluted by the perversity of lust." 6
7. Saint Gregory the Great (540-604)
Pope Saint Gregory I is called “the Great.” He is both Father and Doctor of the Church. He introduced Gregorian chant into the Church. He organized England’s conversion, sending Saint Augustine of Canterbury and many Benedictine monks there.

"Sacred Scripture itself confirms that sulfur evokes the stench of the flesh, as it speaks of the rain of fire and sulfur poured upon Sodom by the Lord. He had decided to punish Sodom for the crimes of the flesh, and the very type of punishment he chose emphasized the shame of that crime. For sulfur stinks, and fire burns. So it was just that Sodomites, burning with perverse desires arising from the flesh like stench, should perish by fire and sulfur so that through this just punishment they would realize the evil they had committed, led by a perverse desire." 7
8. Saint Peter Damian (1007-1072)
Doctor of the Church, cardinal and a great reformer of the clergy, Saint Peter Damian wrote his famous Book of Gomorrah against the inroads made by ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity among the clergy. He describes not only the iniquity of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, but also its psychological and moral consequences:
"Truly, this vice is never to be compared with any other vice because it surpasses the enormity of all vices.… It defiles everything, stains everything, pollutes everything. And as for itself, it permits nothing pure, nothing clean, nothing other than filth.…
"The miserable flesh burns with the heat of lust; the cold mind trembles with the rancor of suspicion; and in the heart of the miserable man chaos boils like Tartarus [Hell]…. In fact, after this most poisonous serpent once sinks its fangs into the unhappy soul, sense is snatched away, memory is borne off, the sharpness of the mind is obscured. It becomes unmindful of God and even forgetful of itself. This plague undermines the foundation of faith, weakens the strength of hope, destroys the bond of charity; it takes away justice, subverts fortitude, banishes temperance, blunts the keenness of prudence.
"And what more should I say since it expels the whole host of the virtues from the chamber of the human heart and introduces every barbarous vice as if the bolts of the doors were pulled out." 8
9. Saint Thomas Aquinas (1225-1274)
Commenting upon Saint Paul’s Epistle to the Romans (1:26-27), Saint Thomas Aquinas, the Angelic Doctor, explains why the sin of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is so grave:
"Given the sin of impiety through which they [the Romans] sinned against the divine nature [by idolatry], the punishment that led them to sin against their own nature followed.... I say, therefore, that since they changed into lies [by idolatry] the truth about God, He brought them to ignominious passions, that is, to sins against nature; not that God led them to evil, but only that he abandoned them to evil....
"If all the sins of the flesh are worthy of condemnation because by them man allows himself to be dominated by that which he has of the animal nature, much more deserving of condemnation are the sins against nature by which man degrades his own animal nature....
"Man can sin against nature in two ways. First, when he sins against his specific rational nature, acting contrary to reason. In this sense, we can say that every sin is a sin against man’s nature, because it is against man’s right reason....
"Secondly, man sins against nature when he goes against his generic nature, that is to say, his animal nature. Now, it is evident that, in accord with natural order, the union of the sexes among animals is ordered towards conception. From this it follows that every sɛҳuąƖ intercourse that cannot lead to conception is opposed to man’s animal nature." 9
10. Saint Catherine of Siena (1347-1380)
Saint Catherine, a great mystic and Doctor of the Church, lived in troubled times. The Papacy was in exile at Avignon, France. She was instrumental in bringing the Popes back to Rome. Her famous Dialogues are written as if dictated by God Himself:
"But they act in a contrary way, for they come full of impurity to this mystery, and not only of that impurity to which, through the fragility of your weak nature, you are all naturally inclined (although reason, when free will permits, can quiet the rebellion of nature), but these wretches not only do not bridle this fragility, but do worse, committing that accursed sin against nature, and as blind and fools, with the light of their intellect darkened, they do not know the stench and misery in which they are. It is not only that this sin stinks before me, who am the Supreme and Eternal Truth, it does indeed displease me so much and I hold it in such abomination that for it alone I buried five cities by a divine judgment, my divine justice being no longer able to endure it. This sin not only displeases me as I have said, but also the devils whom these wretches have made their masters. Not that the evil displeases them because they like anything good, but because their nature was originally angelic, and their angelic nature causes them to loathe the sight of the actual commission of this enormous sin. 10
11. Saint Bernardine of Siena (1380-1444)
Saint Bernardine of Siena was a famous preacher, celebrated for his doctrine and holiness. Regarding ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, he stated:
"No sin in the world grips the soul as the accursed sodomy; this sin has always been detested by all those who live according to God.… Deviant passion is close to madness; this vice disturbs the intellect, destroys elevation and generosity of soul, brings the mind down from great thoughts to the lowliest, makes the person slothful, irascible, obstinate and obdurate, servile and soft and incapable of anything; furthermore, agitated by an insatiable craving for pleasure, the person follows not reason but frenzy.… They become blind and, when their thoughts should soar to high and great things, they are broken down and reduced to vile and useless and putrid things, which could never make them happy.... Just as people participate in the glory of God in different degrees, so also in hell some suffer more than others. He who lived with this vice of sodomy suffers more than another, for this is the greatest sin." 11
12. Saint Peter Canisius (1521-1597)
Saint Peter Canisius, Jesuit and Doctor of the Church, is responsible for helping one third of Germany abandon Lutheranism and return to the Church. To Scripture’s condemnation of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, he added his own:
"As the Sacred Scripture says, the Sodomites were wicked and exceedingly sinful. Saint Peter and Saint Paul condemn this nefarious and depraved sin. In fact, the Scripture denounces this enormous indecency thus: 'The scandal of Sodomites and Gomorrhans has multiplied and their sins have become grave beyond measure.' So the angels said to just Lot, who totally abhorred the depravity of the Sodomites: 'Let us leave this city....' Holy Scripture does not fail to mention the causes that led the Sodomites, and can also lead others, to this most grievous sin. In fact, in Ezechiel we read: 'Behold this was the iniquity of Sodom: pride, fullness of bread, and abundance, and the idleness of her, and of her daughters: and they did not put forth their hand to the needy, and the poor. And they were lifted up, and committed abominations before me; and I took them away as thou hast seen' (Ezech. 16: 49-50). Those unashamed of violating divine and natural law are slaves of this never sufficiently execrated depravity." 12

Minnesota · « **Reply #47 on:** March 31, 2022, 08:50:35 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on March 31, 2022, 08:13:27 PM

You sound novus Ordo to the max.

Yes. Jesus said go and sin no more. Were you not a former seminarian?
Mercy for the sodomites but zero mercy for victims of sex abuse.

You talk like Bergolio.

What a way to tell us that you've learned absolutely nothing from the past couple of pages of people trying to correct you.

epiphany · « **Reply #48 on:** March 31, 2022, 09:20:55 PM »

"Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks"

Boy, that's rich coming from LT...

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #49 on:** March 31, 2022, 09:23:14 PM »

Minnesota. You should stop posting. Mind your business. If anything, we learned many traditional Catholics condone mortal sin.

Ladislaus

Re: KBI is investigating priests in Kansas town that draws parishioners from ...
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"Fed up, Jacas emailed the Rev. Davide Pagliarani, the SSPX Superior General
She said his assistant responded on Jan. 16, saying that Pagliarani “measures your sorrow” but that the decision was up to Wegner."

What kind of nonsense is that? The decision was up to Wegner? Is not Pagliarani the Superior General? He could have intervened. Overruled Wegner and used his authority as Superior General. He should have ordered that priest locked up in a monestery and proceeded to begin his expulsion from the Soceity. What a shameful lack of governance, fortitude, and responsibility.

Fr. Pagliariani does not have time to deal with every situation across the SSPX. That is precisely why he appoints district superiors. Obviously, had Jassy's case been a serious one, then Fr. Pagliarani should have intervened personally. We have to remember that what was at issue in the Jassy case was that of a priest allegedly making some inappropriate comments to an adult women. Fr. Duverger was not alleged to have been going around raping children. Not only that, but he has not been accused of even so much as inappropriately touching anyone. He asked some probing / graphic questions which could possibly have been construed as feeding an impure curiosity of some kind. Or maybe it wasn't and he just fancied himself an amateur psychologist.

Jassy kept pursuing Fr. Duverger, asking why he's around children ... even though there's zero evidence that Fr. Duverger posed any threat to children.

We can't conflate Jassy's situation with the actual serious cases ... like both Jassy and CM want to do. They both speak of Jassy as having been sɛҳuąƖly abused, as if what happened to her was anywhere remotely like young boys being raped. Jassy should be ashamed of herself, for putting her case in the same category as the real serious ..“

Who is the pharisee?? Who are you to judge Jassy? Who would want a priest around their children after he had sex with a young woman and got her pregnant?? A real Christian reaction should be anger at the priest for abusing his authority. Family and co workers should have done more to protect Jassy too.

The Priest should have been ashamed of himself. He should have been defrocked and made to get a real job in secular world.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #50 on:** March 31, 2022, 09:29:02 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on March 31, 2022, 08:13:27 PM

You sound novus Ordo to the max.

Yes. Jesus said go and sin no more. Were you not a former seminarian?
Mercy for the sodomites but zero mercy for victims of sex abuse.

You talk like Bergolio.

If this is "Novus Ordo" then I'd rather be Novus Ordo than Traditional Catholic. And what's even more appalling is that someone up-thumbed this atrocious comment.

I'm utterly appalled to the point that I have no words. I warn you right now that you are headed on a fast track to hell unless you wake up to the evil of our sentiments.

Ah, OK, so having compassion and withholding judgment on (people you have no proof of being) sodomites means having "zero mercy for victims of sex abuse". Are you out of your cotton-picking mind? Your Pharisaically-contaminated soul has led you to the edge of insanity.

Sodomy should be made illegal, and its practice punishable by law, and children protected by every means possible. BUT THESE ARE CONSIDERATIONS OF THE EXTERNAL FORUM. We nevertheless have compassion even on those who committed these crimes and pray for them to receive God's mercy. Nevertheless, we weren't talking about proven sodomites, but people who you JUDGED to be sodomites because, what?, they had effeminate tendencies or were praying the Rosary very loudly? Nor is having compassion for their souls mutually exclusive with having compassion for their victims. Statistics show that many (if not most) sodomites were actually "victims of sex abuse" themselves, and that damaged them badly. So which one do you have "mercy" on and which one do you not have "mercy" on, when the same person is both sodomite and victim? We have mercy on all.

While justice must be served in the external forum, it is always done with a heavy heart. That is why even as someone is being executed by the state, it's customary for the executioners to say "May God have mercy on your soul." and to provide a chance to speak with a priest, etc. NOBODY is excluded from God's mercy or compassion.

St. Therese famously prayed ardently for the conversion of a notorious murderer who was about to be executed. She prayed and prayed, and the man was executed. She later saw a news story where the man, shortly before his execution, asked for a crucifix to kiss and was overjoyed at her prayers being answered.

Sadly, Viva, Jorge Bergoglio could very well more esteemed in the eyes of God than you are with the attitudes that you've expressed here. Please wake up before you endanger and possibly lose you soul.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #51 on:** March 31, 2022, 09:30:54 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on March 31, 2022, 08:30:36 PM

Because those who are verbally attacking us are in a state of mortal sin with no plans of repenting.

"Bless me, Father, for VCR, Meg, and LT say I have sinned. You'll have to ask them what and how many those sins are because they can read my soul (and also how effective your advice will be)."

epiphany · « **Reply #52 on:** March 31, 2022, 09:32:37 PM »

Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 31, 2022, 03:40:05 PM

It is very interesting to see that the two ladies never respond in kind to these eunuch cowards. It is very enlightening for anyone with eyes to see. These cowards need to learn from the ladies instead of spewing out their frustrations at them. They are a good example to follow.

"Punk" is not "in kind"?

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #53 on:** March 31, 2022, 09:33:00 PM »

You have a whole page to judging people..

Ladislaus · « **Reply #54 on:** March 31, 2022, 09:35:47 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on March 31, 2022, 09:23:14 PM

Minnesota. You should stop posting. Mind your business. If anything, we learned many traditional Catholics condone mortal sin.

Your hubris knows no bounds. "Mind your business"? Like you minded your business judging people guilty of mortal sin and watching to see whether they went to Holy Communion? Having compassion for sinners and reserving judgment about whether someone is in fact in mortal sin you now smear as condoning mortal sin. So now you slander us as condoning mortal sin.

1) You had no idea that either the young boys who smelled of pot OR the "sodomites" were in a state of mortal sin. You simply made that judgment based on what was at best circuмstantial evidence. That's a very serious thing you're doing.

2) Condemning mortal sin does not preclude sorrow and compassion for the soul of the sinner. When Our Lady came at Fatima to ask reparation for blasphemies committed against her, she did so out of her grief who are lost on account of committing such sins not out of outrage over the offense she had received.

YOU should stop posting. IMMEDIATELY. You are endangering your soul. Mind your own business and care for your own family. Get off the internet.

epiphany · « **Reply #55 on:** March 31, 2022, 09:36:13 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on March 31, 2022, 05:39:09 PM

Last Trad, Meg, and Viva have been ganged up for by everyone else here by epitomizing the worst of Traditional Catholicism, extreme Pharisaical self-righteousness and judgmentalism, their God-given gift of reading souls, being able to judge people guilty of mortal sin in the internal forum, without any allowances for ignorance, good faith, or simple human weakness. Case and point is the thread about "who's to blame for [immodesty of dress]", which is something only God can know, and the appropriate question is "what's the cause of" it?

Some of us are just completely fed up with and sick of this attitude. It's repulsive. Our Lord saved His harshest words for Pharisees. Newsflash: a kind-hearted girl who has issues with vanity or a humble teenager who smokes a joint from time to time, they displease Our Lord far less than hypocrites and Pharisees. I'd rather be in the company of a thousand such sinners than in that of a Pharisaical hypocrite. It takes special kind of audacity to have been (by one's own admission) a serial violator of the 6th commandment to bitterly and harshly denounce a girl who wears high heels to Mass basically as a whore.

Nail on the head!

epiphany · « **Reply #56 on:** March 31, 2022, 09:37:37 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on March 31, 2022, 06:21:45 PM

Go smoke cow dung cake.

How can a woman expect to get treated well when she speaks this way?

Mark 79 · « **Reply #57 on:** March 31, 2022, 09:39:18 PM »

Quote from: Mark 79 on March 31, 2022, 07:23:06 PM

prurient

• constant harping on the “true intent” of medical patients to “get high,” piling on to LT’s habitual “leg spreader” obsession

“sins of the flesh, but they seem to believe that because they are trads and attend the TLM, that this will make them holy, and not subject to the laws and justice of Our Lord.” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/oxymoron-catholics-for-recreational-use-of-marijuana/msg813628/#msg813628

disordered

• habitually reads the interior forum of medical patients, “true intent" to "get high"

• habitually reads the interior forum of opponents, true intent to "make Catholicism look bad," advance occultism/satanism, etc. [see the numerous insane accusations cited below]

• habitually reads the interior forum of strangers, including the Catholic word at large

“Fitting in with the world is a good thing to many trads… Most give in.” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/pope-to-consecrate-russiaukraine-on-march-25!/msg813582/#msg813582

rabid, hysterical

“he seems mentally unbalanced… mentally unhinged” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/spewing-bitter-vile-personal-attacks/msg817027/#msg817027

“Mark 79 is a bully and a brute” https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg812838/#msg812838

“crusade … marijuana is snake oil disguised as a miracle substance given by God to save humanity… it has miraculous or supernatural powers, which is a little too close to believing in the occult. Such thinking is not of God. Marijuana cannot save humanity. Only Our Lord can do that.” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/ban-marijuana-discussions-from-ci/msg817018/#msg817018

“on a crusade to show that pot can only be used for good” https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/alasdair-crowley's-use-of-cannabis-in-occult-ritual/msg816837/#msg816837

“most pharisaical of all” https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/people-smoked-weed-before-mass/msg816400/#msg816400

“…Mark79 is intentionally and knowingly trying to make Traditional Catholicism look bad” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/please-pray-for-mark79/msg813886/#msg813886

“If [traditional Catholics] were truly looking for sanctity, they would not support someone like [Mark 7:9]. But they do. Meaning that they (at least on this forum) are not any better than Novus Ordo Catholics. …they are not Catholic.” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/please-pray-for-mark79/msg813883/#msg813883

“…yes, the type of vitriol that Mark79 dishes out does reveal who he truly is; hence, perhaps, the recent posting by him on this thread - in order to make himself look like a really nice guy (which he clearly isn't). Trouble is, most of the forum members like it. They like (even the forum owner) the nastiness of Mark79. They can't get enough of it.” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/please-pray-for-mark79/msg813878/#msg813878

“many of the forum members seem to enjoy it when he insults others in an extreme manner.” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/please-pray-for-mark79/msg813875/#msg813875

“So pot isn't necessary for salvation? Are you sure about that?” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/oxymoron-catholics-for-recreational-use-of-marijuana/msg813676/#msg813676

“But then we do have a resident manipulator and bully on this forum who enforces this assumption, and who strives to ensure that NO ONE goes against his directives.” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/what's-the-purpose-of-smoking-marijuana-for-recreation/msg813316/#msg813316

“You know, you needn't be afraid to admit that you have Zionist parents.” https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/world-war-3-folks/msg812657/#msg812657

Agreed with: “Mark 79, you're as phony as Obama's birth certificate … humiliate, demoralize and degrade the unfortunate catholic reader/ viewer. You're a crypto Jєω.” https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/this-whole-ukraine-thing-stinks/msg812416/#msg812416

ignorant

• ignores dozens of cited studies showing the safety and benefits of MJ

• relies on personal experiences, ignores large-scale, placebo-controlled double-blind studies

“I saw it when in high school in the '70's, and later with family members who smoked pot. One cannot improve their life if they smoke pot. Quite the opposite. And it leads to sin. “ https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/ban-marijuana-discussions-from-ci/msg817019/#msg817019

“I had pothead friends” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/oxymoron-catholics-for-recreational-use-of-marijuana/msg813641/#msg813641

“I cannot cite anything other than my personal experience with potheads (plural, not singular).” https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg812654/#msg812654

illogical

• pretends that the safety and benefits of MJ shown in medical studies is irrelevant to social use of MJ

• has not acknowledged the greater toxicity of alcohol

• cites a med school dropout for medical matters, denies peer-reviewed studies

• cites a pederast enabler who violated the law requiring reporting of sɛҳuąƖ abuse for moral theology, denies a moral theologian and canonist

insane straw man caricatures

“Everything should be legal, in your view, with no restrictions or special taxes.” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/what's-the-purpose-of-smoking-marijuana-for-recreation/msg813665/#msg813665

“trads believe themselves to be above the law?” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/oxymoron-catholics-for-recreational-use-of-marijuana/msg813633/#msg813633

“saying that there's nothing wrong with smoking pot recreationally” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/what's-the-purpose-of-smoking-marijuana-for-recreation/msg813439/#msg813439

“traditional Catholics here find it offensive that some of us do not agree that recreational pot-smoking is a good thing, and not a problem at all.”

“Both Sedism and potheadism are novelities, supported by supposed trads.… The Bully are sedes.
” https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg812854/#msg812854

“Who is it that paid you to interview hundreds of MJ users?” https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg812649/#msg812649

connects MJ with sedevacantism

“…five downvotes, but I suspect that it's from Mark 79's fellow sedes. They don't want their boy to be 'dissed. “ https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg812839/#msg812839

“If you were not a sede, would you really have that opinion [on MJ]?” https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg812838/#msg812838

connects MJ with abortion https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg812837/#msg812837

Ditto for LT and VCR (who now equates recognition of the safety and medical benefits of MJ as promoting sodomy).

Ummmmm... among the medical benefits legally recognized in our state is Alzheimer's Dementia.

Abstract
Objectives
This study was to discuss the research trend of dementia treatment using cannabis for the purpose of providing the basis of cannabis use for medical purposes in the future.

Methods
This study searched publications, which were registered to databases or published by Aug 22, 2019, and targeted the full-text or abstracts of these publications. We selected the final nine studies met all selection criteria.

Results
These results implied that the CBD components of cannabis might be useful to treat and prevent AD because CBD components could suppress the main causal factors of AD. Moreover, it was suggested that using CBD and THC together could be more useful than using CBD or THC alone.…

Summary of the effects of CBD and CBD-THC combinations on AD

No.

Study ID

Model

Effect

IN VITRO STUDIES USING CBD

1

Iuvone 2004

PC12 Neuronal Cells

Protected against Aβ neurotoxicity and oxidative stress, increased cell survival and decreased ROS production and lipid peroxidation

2

Esposito 2006

PC12 Neuronal Cells

Inhibited tau hyperphosphorylation

3

Eubanks 2006

PC12 Neuronal Cells

Prevented transcription of pro-inflammatory genes

4

Alexandre 2017

PC12 Neuronal Cells

Aβ-induced tau protein hyperphosphorylation is inhibited

5

Scuderi 2014

SH-SY5YAPP+ Cells

Induced APP ubiquination and subsequently Aβ production and increased cell survival by reducing apoptotic rate

IN VIVO STUDIES USING CBD

6

Esposito 2007

Mice inoculated with human Aβ42 peptide

Attenuated Aβ induced neuroinflammatory responses by decreasing expression of proinflammatory gene and mediators

7

Giuseppe 2011

Mice inoculated with human Aβ42 peptide

Reduced reactive gliosis

IN VIVO STUDIES USING CBD-THC

8

Ester 2015

Young APPxPS1 transgenic mice (mixed background)

Improved memory deficits in the two-object recognition task and the active avoidance task. Decreased soluble Aβ42 levels and changed plaque composition and reduced a strogliosis, microgliosis and inflammatory related molecules

9

Ester 2016

Aged APPxPS1 transgenic mice (mixed background)
APP/PS1 mice are associated with reduced GluR2/3 and increased levels of GABA-A Rα1 in cannabinoid-treated animals

Ladislaus · « **Reply #58 on:** March 31, 2022, 09:43:07 PM »

Quote from: Mark 79 on March 31, 2022, 09:30:54 PM

"Bless me, Father, for VCR, Meg, and LT say I have sinned. You'll have to ask them what and how many those sins are because they can read my soul (and also how effective your advice will be)."

See, not only has this mystical soul-reader judged the pot-smell boys and "sodomites" at Mass guilty of mortal sin, now she's declaring that all of us are in mortal sin. See, WE are in mortal sin for judging her ... for judging others, even though we've reserved our criticisms to the external forum, whereas she's actually judging people guilty of mortal sin in the internal forum, without even having evidence that they committed the sins she accuses them of. She didn't see the boys getting high on marijuana (nor known whether they had some justification for it) nor did she witness the two men sodomizing each other. So she judges us for judging her for judging others. This is utter insanity.

That is precisely the hubris to which I refer.

At no point have I or anyone else said that these Pharisees are in mortal sin, just that their attitudes are disgraceful and contrary to the teaching of Our Blessed Lord. Nor will I judge the "pot" boys or the "sodomites" guilty of mortal sin. I have no idea, and it's not my business nor my place to judge such matters. That of course, to Viva's diseased mind, means that we condone sodomy. This is preposterous and I'm done here.

Viva and LT, you have been duly warned and admonished, but as it appears that you're only becoming more hardened in this deplorable attitude of yours, so I'm kicking the dust off my feet here and moving on.

epiphany · « **Reply #59 on:** March 31, 2022, 09:43:28 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on March 31, 2022, 08:11:30 PM

You are imagining things. I wasn’t the only one. You need rest. Guess what using “dung” was lady like and polite. especially about these cowards talking trash on my husband.

They posted so much insulting inappropriate things to Meg, Tradhican and me because we know pot is a sin.
it’s a no brainer. You never say anything to them when they verbally attack us. You are silent and indifferent.

Instead of correcting me maybe you should be silent...

VCR, please go do something you MIGHT be good at: go bake a cake. Please.

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