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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2022, 06:25:49 PM »
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    « Reply #31 on: March 31, 2022, 06:27:56 PM »
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  • In real life it’s difficult dealing with jealous women and rude creepy single young trad men.  (We know the there is a problem with masturbation, pornography etc. ).

     Only recently .. same sex couples are coming to mass.  It is huge distraction.

    No, the problem is with you judging people to be "same sex couples" (without any proof), guilty of mortal sin based on flimsy circuмstantial evidence, [and now, your latest] identifying young men who could simply be awkward or socially clumsy of being a creepy masturbators addicted to pornography.  You've got it all figured out, walking round as you do with the odor of sanctity sniffing out the drug addicts around you.  I'm sure you quickly determine which young men at your chapel are masturbating and viewing pornography simply by watching them.

    BOTTOM LINE:  Not only do you have ZERO clue as to what goes on in any given individual's soul, you are not to be judging anyone.  It is not your place, and you are usurping a role that belongs to God alone.  If you don't like someone for whatever reason, then you are not required to interact with them, nor are you entitled to arrogantly deride them and to judge their souls.

    And if there were a young man who had issues with purity:

    CHRISTIAN:  "Poor young man  I'll say some prayers for him."
    VIVA:  "Disgusting creep."

    If there were a sodomite couple at Mass:

    CHRISTIAN:  "Poor guys.  They'e been badly damaged somehow, but  I'm glad their coming to Mass and praying the Rosary.  I'll say some prayers for them."
    VIVA:  "Disgusting freaks, stay out of MY chapel."

    And if there were a young man who used marijuana:

    CHRISTIAN:  "I hope the kid can get straightened out; his life is such a mess.  I'll pray for him."
    VIVA:  "Get out; you're ruining my Mass experience.  And you'd better not dare go to Holy Communion."


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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #32 on: March 31, 2022, 06:29:49 PM »
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  • What a very revealing and fruitful Lent this has been. 

    If the three of you (LT, Meg, VCR) had any humility you would recognize that and praise God rather than continue to cast stones as if you were without sin.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #33 on: March 31, 2022, 06:31:49 PM »
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  • I'm just going by memory (I could be wrong) but, Viva, you are the only person I have noticed calling people dung. Yes, it is better to keep your language ladylike if you wished to be treated as a lady. Just saying...

    dung

    (dʌŋ)
    UNCOUNTABLE NOUN
    Dung is faeces from animals, especially from large animals such as cattle and horses.
    Synonyms: manure, compost, fertilizer, droppings 



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    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #34 on: March 31, 2022, 06:43:03 PM »
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  • What a very revealing and fruitful Lent this has been.

    If the three of you (LT, Meg, VCR) had any humility you would recognize that and praise God rather than continue to cast stones as if you were without sin.

    It's times like these where I am tempted to question Traditional Catholicism ... were it not for the solid theology and reason behind it.


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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #35 on: March 31, 2022, 06:48:10 PM »
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  • It's times like these where I am tempted to question Traditional Catholicism ... were it not for the solid theology and reason behind it.
    Satan works both sides of the road. The difficulty is maintaining oneself on the narrow path. Traditional Catholicism is true, just not this expression of it.

    I have a fear that an extreme rigorism (read: Neo-Pharisaism) is going to be the outcome of this age of decadence which the Antichrist will offer a solution to by doing away with all Divine Law (which is what St. Hippolytus predicted, if I recall). Mirroring the reaction of the Israelites to the Babylonian captivity and the rise of the Pharisees and Scribes.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #36 on: March 31, 2022, 07:02:58 PM »
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  • I have been working with a protestant family that wants to convert. In addition to the catechisms I have given them they are asking if we traditionalists have any websites they could go to. I would like to send them here to explore some of our topics but after all of this uncharitable talk I would be afraid to tell them about us--embarrassment being the least concern. Have some here forgotten " In necessary things unity, in doubtful things liberty, and in all things charity"?

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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #37 on: March 31, 2022, 07:17:23 PM »
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  • Satan works both sides of the road. The difficulty is maintaining oneself on the narrow path. Traditional Catholicism is true, just not this expression of it.

    I have a fear that an extreme rigorism (read: Neo-Pharisaism) is going to be the outcome of this age of decadence which the Antichrist will offer a solution to by doing away with all Divine Law (which is what St. Hippolytus predicted, if I recall). Mirroring the reaction of the Israelites to the Babylonian captivity and the rise of the Pharisees and Scribes.

    I can't understand how a Catholic, filled with sanctifying grace, can failed to be moved with charity and compassion for sinners.  Our Lord went to the Cross for those "sodomites, masturbators, and potheads" ... that's how much He loved them.  We see Him showing mercy to the adultress.  He's only ever (righteously) angry with the Pharisees.


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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #38 on: March 31, 2022, 07:22:50 PM »
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  • I can't understand how a Catholic, filled with sanctifying grace, can failed to be moved with charity and compassion for sinners.  Our Lord went to the Cross for those "sodomites, masturbators, and potheads" ... that's how much He loved them.  We see Him showing mercy to the adultress.  He's only ever (righteously) angry with the Pharisees.
    I'm at a loss to understand it myself. But it really boils down to a lack of humility. Which is a difficult subject to talk about without coming across as proud, from what I've seen. All I can say is that not one of the saints looked at themselves as anything better than dirt (to put it mildly). They thought they were the lowest of the low and that everyone else was holier than they were. St. Margaret Mary thought she was the most vile sinner alive. Even Our Lady had this grace, if you believe the visions of Bl. Mary of Agreda.

    I would like to send them here to explore some of our topics but after all of this uncharitable talk I would be afraid to tell them about us--embarrassment being the least concern. 
    I wouldn't right now while this stupid spat is going on.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #39 on: March 31, 2022, 07:23:06 PM »
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  • prurient

    • constant harping on the “true intent” of medical patients to “get high,” piling on to LT’s habitual “leg spreader” obsession

    “sins of the flesh, but they seem to believe that because they are trads and attend the TLM, that this will make them holy, and not subject to the laws and justice of Our Lord.” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/oxymoron-catholics-for-recreational-use-of-marijuana/msg813628/#msg813628


    disordered

    • habitually reads the interior forum of medical patients, “true intent" to "get high"

    • habitually reads the interior forum of opponents, true intent to "make Catholicism look bad," advance occultism/satanism, etc. [see the numerous insane accusations cited below]

    • habitually reads the interior forum of strangers, including the Catholic word at large

    “Fitting in with the world is a good thing to many trads… Most give in.” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/pope-to-consecrate-russiaukraine-on-march-25!/msg813582/#msg813582


    rabid, hysterical

    “he seems mentally unbalanced… mentally unhinged” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/spewing-bitter-vile-personal-attacks/msg817027/#msg817027

    “Mark 79 is a bully and a brute” https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg812838/#msg812838

    “crusade … marijuana is snake oil disguised as a miracle substance given by God to save humanity…  it has miraculous or supernatural powers, which is a little too close to believing in the occult. Such thinking is not of God. Marijuana cannot save humanity. Only Our Lord can do that.” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/ban-marijuana-discussions-from-ci/msg817018/#msg817018

    “on a crusade to show that pot can only be used for good” https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/alasdair-crowley's-use-of-cannabis-in-occult-ritual/msg816837/#msg816837

    “most pharisaical of all” https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/people-smoked-weed-before-mass/msg816400/#msg816400

    “…Mark79 is intentionally and knowingly trying to make Traditional Catholicism look bad” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/please-pray-for-mark79/msg813886/#msg813886

    “If [traditional Catholics] were truly looking for sanctity, they would not support someone like [Mark 7:9]. But they do. Meaning that they (at least on this forum) are not any better than Novus Ordo Catholics. …they are not Catholic.” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/please-pray-for-mark79/msg813883/#msg813883

    “…yes, the type of vitriol that Mark79 dishes out does reveal who he truly is; hence, perhaps, the recent posting by him on this thread - in order to make himself look like a really nice guy (which he clearly isn't). Trouble is, most of the forum members like it. They like (even the forum owner) the nastiness of Mark79. They can't get enough of it.” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/please-pray-for-mark79/msg813878/#msg813878

    “many of the forum members seem to enjoy it when he insults others in an extreme manner.” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/please-pray-for-mark79/msg813875/#msg813875

    “So pot isn't necessary for salvation? Are you sure about that?” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/oxymoron-catholics-for-recreational-use-of-marijuana/msg813676/#msg813676

    “But then we do have a resident manipulator and bully on this forum who enforces this assumption, and who strives to ensure that NO ONE goes against his directives.” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/what's-the-purpose-of-smoking-marijuana-for-recreation/msg813316/#msg813316

    “You know, you needn't be afraid to admit that you have Zionist parents.” https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/world-war-3-folks/msg812657/#msg812657

    Agreed with: “Mark 79, you're as phony as Obama's birth certificate … humiliate, demoralize and degrade the unfortunate catholic reader/ viewer.  You're a crypto Jєω.” https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/this-whole-ukraine-thing-stinks/msg812416/#msg812416


    ignorant

    • ignores dozens of cited studies showing the safety and benefits of MJ

    • relies on personal experiences, ignores large-scale, placebo-controlled double-blind studies

    “I saw it when in high school in the '70's, and later with family members who smoked pot. One cannot improve their life if they smoke pot. Quite the opposite. And it leads to sin. “ https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/ban-marijuana-discussions-from-ci/msg817019/#msg817019

    “I had pothead friends” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/oxymoron-catholics-for-recreational-use-of-marijuana/msg813641/#msg813641

    “I cannot cite anything other than my personal experience with potheads (plural, not singular).” https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg812654/#msg812654


    illogical

    • pretends that the safety and benefits of MJ shown in medical studies is irrelevant to social use of MJ

    • has not acknowledged the greater toxicity of alcohol

    • cites a med school dropout for medical matters, denies peer-reviewed studies

    • cites a pederast enabler who violated the law requiring reporting of sɛҳuąƖ abuse for moral theology, denies a moral theologian and canonist

    insane straw man caricatures

    “Everything should be legal, in your view, with no restrictions or special taxes.” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/what's-the-purpose-of-smoking-marijuana-for-recreation/msg813665/#msg813665

    “trads believe themselves to be above the law?” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/oxymoron-catholics-for-recreational-use-of-marijuana/msg813633/#msg813633

    “saying that there's nothing wrong with smoking pot recreationally” https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/what's-the-purpose-of-smoking-marijuana-for-recreation/msg813439/#msg813439

    “traditional Catholics here find it offensive that some of us do not agree that recreational pot-smoking is a good thing, and not a problem at all.”

    “Both Sedism and potheadism are novelities, supported by supposed trads.… The Bully are sedes.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg812854/#msg812854

    “Who is it that paid you to interview hundreds of MJ users?” https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg812649/#msg812649


    connects MJ with sedevacantism

    “…five downvotes, but I suspect that it's from Mark 79's fellow sedes. They don't want their boy to be 'dissed. “ https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg812839/#msg812839

    “If you were not a sede, would you really have that opinion [on MJ]?”  https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg812838/#msg812838

    connects MJ with abortion https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg812837/#msg812837




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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #40 on: March 31, 2022, 07:48:40 PM »
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  • I don't blame Matthew for not formally posting the rules. Many, myself included, would be parsing and debating every single one. Might be fun for the forum members, but a lot of time for the moderator.
    Then he shouldn't be referring to "rules" that members can't refer to themselves.  You can't hold people accountable for breaking rules they don't even know.

    I don't have a dog in the rest of this ongoing never ending fight, but quite a number of you would benefit from taking a break from posting.


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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #41 on: March 31, 2022, 08:11:30 PM »
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  • I'm just going by memory (I could be wrong) but, Viva, you are the only person I have noticed calling people dung. Yes, it is better to keep your language ladylike if you wished to be treated as a lady. Just saying...

    dung

    (dʌŋ)
    UNCOUNTABLE NOUN
    Dung is faeces from animals, especially from large animals such as cattle and horses.
    Synonyms: manure, compost, fertilizer, droppings 

    You are imagining things.   I wasn’t the only one. You need rest. Guess what using “dung” was lady like and polite.  especially about these cowards talking trash on my husband.  

    They posted so much insulting inappropriate things to Meg, Tradhican and me because we know pot is a sin. 
    it’s a no brainer.   You never say anything to them when they verbally attack us. You are silent and indifferent.  

    Instead of correcting me maybe you should be silent...  






     
     

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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #42 on: March 31, 2022, 08:13:27 PM »
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  • I can't understand how a Catholic, filled with sanctifying grace, can failed to be moved with charity and compassion for sinners.  Our Lord went to the Cross for those "sodomites, masturbators, and potheads" ... that's how much He loved them.  We see Him showing mercy to the adultress.  He's only ever (righteously) angry with the Pharisees.
    You sound novus Ordo to the max. 

    Yes. Jesus said go and sin no more. Were you not a former seminarian?
    Mercy for the sodomites but zero mercy for victims of sex abuse.

    You talk like Bergolio. 


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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #43 on: March 31, 2022, 08:17:54 PM »
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  • I have been working with a protestant family that wants to convert. In addition to the catechisms I have given them they are asking if we traditionalists have any websites they could go to. I would like to send them here to explore some of our topics but after all of this uncharitable talk I would be afraid to tell them about us--embarrassment being the least concern. Have some here forgotten " In necessary things unity, in doubtful things liberty, and in all things charity"?
    I know.  There were a few people with children that wanted to check out traditional max chapel but they wouldn’t their children to many flaunting their mortal sin. 
    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #44 on: March 31, 2022, 08:30:36 PM »
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  • Why are we being called Pharisees?

    Because those who are verbally attacking us are in a state of mortal sin with no plans of repenting.  They are trying to make mortal sin acceptable in society and in traditional chapels.  Like a liberal atheist, they will accuse Catholics as Pharisees etc. 


    They are smoking pot, watching porn, struggling with sodomy or waiting for it to be acceptable, adultery, etc.  They have zero intentions of relenting for sins.  We know for a fact per Pew survey that there are already 2 percent traditional Catholics in the pews who are pro same sex marriage and pro abortion.  I don’t think Jesus had much love for sodomites who failed to repent.

    Douay-Rheims Bible
    But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea. 




    May God bless you and keep you