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Offline Meg

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Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2022, 12:54:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on March 31, 2022, 12:18:08 PM
    Just to interject --

    The kind of "vile" insults being discussed are already against the rules, and when reported, I generally delete them. I consider that going off the rails/stepping over the line, etc. So this whole discussion is a nothingburger, in that respect.

    That's why I was talking about something totally different in my quotes above. As far as I'm concerned, calling someone "a piece of dung" is already going to get moderated, because it's against the rules. No need to discuss it, much less craft any additional rules.

    Well then, I'll report the vile insults from now on. Hopefully that will help. We'll see.
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #16 on: March 31, 2022, 01:02:15 PM »
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #17 on: March 31, 2022, 01:14:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on March 31, 2022, 12:51:44 PM
    I've stepped in a few times in the grocery store where I work, when someone was being bullied. My intervention helped, and I did not get hurt. But then, I'm not afraid of bullies.

    Plenty of men would think twice about hitting a female. Even bullies and other scoundrels.

    Don't doubt for a minute a bit of "female privilege" there. Guys and girls are treated quite differently, as female-to-male trannies discover to their chagrin all the time. It's NOT a man's world in the way feminists claim it is. There IS no "patriarchy".
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #18 on: March 31, 2022, 03:09:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on March 31, 2022, 12:18:08 PM
    Just to interject --

    The kind of "vile" insults being discussed are already against the rules, and when reported, I generally delete them. I consider that going off the rails/stepping over the line, etc. So this whole discussion is a nothingburger, in that respect.

    That's why I was talking about something totally different in my quotes above. As far as I'm concerned, calling someone "a piece of dung" is already going to get moderated, because it's against the rules. No need to discuss it, much less craft any additional rules.
    What "rules" Matthew?  I've asked before where to find them on this forum, and I never get an answer.
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #19 on: March 31, 2022, 03:40:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on March 31, 2022, 10:42:51 AM
    Example in OP - "(Meg, you are)  prurient, disordered, rabid, ignorant, illogical people as you exemplify".

    Your examples aren't insults, they're just true statements.

    It is very interesting to see that the two ladies never respond in kind to these eunuch cowards. It is very enlightening for anyone with eyes to see. These cowards need to learn from the ladies instead of spewing out their frustrations at them. They are a good example to follow.
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #20 on: March 31, 2022, 04:00:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 31, 2022, 03:40:05 PM
    It is very interesting to see that the two ladies never respond in kind to these eunuch cowards.
    Is that our insult of the day? :laugh1:
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #21 on: March 31, 2022, 04:08:09 PM »
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    • A couple of rhetorical questions:
    I would like to ask you, LT, if you consider it a vile and bitter personal attack to call LD a eunuch?
    And to ask Matthew if such is acceptable here?

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    I see DL has been me to the punch. 
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #22 on: March 31, 2022, 04:22:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on March 31, 2022, 03:09:37 PM
    What "rules" Matthew?  I've asked before where to find them on this forum, and I never get an answer.
    I don't blame Matthew for not formally posting the rules. Many, myself included, would be parsing and debating every single one. Might be fun for the forum members, but a lot of time for the moderator.
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #23 on: March 31, 2022, 04:26:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 31, 2022, 03:40:05 PM
    It is very interesting to see that the two ladies never respond in kind to these eunuch cowards. It is very enlightening for anyone with eyes to see. These cowards need to learn from the ladies instead of spewing out their frustrations at them. They are a good example to follow.

    LT, please apply your understanding of the drug issue to this now:

    https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/644226/vin-mariani-cocaine-wine-history

    According to Fr Jone (who was a traditional pre-V2 Priest) I would assume it would go something like this:

    Snorting coke and getting high - mortal sin
    Drinking Vin Mariani for energy and alertness - no sin
    Having a mild addiction to Vin Mariani - venial sin?

    *shrug* alas, I am just a big, mean, cowardly eunuch. 

    And according to your understanding this would make both Leo XIII and Saint Pius X degenerate drug abusers, no? I expect a rational reply, and not a snarling fit like I received from the possum I killed last night. 

    I can play the Jeopardy theme again if you want. 
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #24 on: March 31, 2022, 05:20:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on March 31, 2022, 11:34:15 AM
    It seems to me, LT, that if a man on the forum insults a woman (or man) it is because she (or he) deserves it.

    And even in the real world, I doubt that many of the men here would do anything at all if they saw a man yelling vile things to a woman on the street or in a grocery store. They would just turn away, thinking that the woman probably deserves it. Because that's what tradition means, for many here.

    Thank you, LT, for being willing to go against that type of thinking.

    To sum up Matthew's post, if you don't like the heat, stay out of the kitchen.  You come in here and do your own share of insulting people and then play the "oh, I do declare, I'm a lady" card.  So a lady can go up to a man, repeatedly punch him in the face, and then play the victim if he loses his cool and slugs her after his face is already bruised black and blue?  "How dare you strike a lady?"

    I have in fact come to the defense of women on this forum who were entirely unjustly insulted, when that Croix guy was calling women "sows" for no other reason than that they didn't agree with him.  But you regulalry assault people and are playing the "lady victim" card now?

    In fact, Last Trad is also hiding behind you and using you as a shield.  He's merely using the "look, they're insulting a lady" to retaliate for the insults made against him; he's just using you as a proxy to go after his own adversaries.  If you hadn't been on his side during the marijuana / Pharisee wars, then he would hardly have raised a peep but would likely have thumbed up the insult.
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #25 on: March 31, 2022, 05:22:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 31, 2022, 03:40:05 PM
    these eunuch cowards .... These cowards need to learn from the ladies...

    Coming from a guy who just started a thread on "vile insults".  Hypocrite, thy name is Last Trad.

    No, the real eunuch is the guy who uses a lady as a human shield and alternatively as a weapon to go after his adversaries when he's incapable of fighting his own battle.
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #26 on: March 31, 2022, 05:39:09 PM »
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    • Last Trad, Meg, and Viva have been ganged up for by everyone else here by epitomizing the worst of Traditional Catholicism, extreme Pharisaical self-righteousness and judgmentalism, their God-given gift of reading souls, being able to judge people guilty of mortal sin in the internal forum, without any allowances for ignorance, good faith, or simple human weakness.  Case and point is the thread about "who's to blame for [immodesty of dress]", which is something only God can know, and the appropriate question is "what's the cause of" it?

    Some of us are just completely fed up with and sick of this attitude.  It's repulsive.  Our Lord saved His harshest words for Pharisees.  Newsflash:  a kind-hearted girl who has issues with vanity or a humble teenager who smokes a joint from time to time, they displease Our Lord far less than hypocrites and Pharisees.  I'd rather be in the company of a thousand such sinners than in that of a Pharisaical hypocrite.  It takes special kind of audacity to have been (by one's own admission) a serial violator of the 6th commandment to bitterly and harshly denounce a girl who wears high heels to Mass basically as a whore.
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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #27 on: March 31, 2022, 05:57:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on March 31, 2022, 04:08:09 PM
    A couple of rhetorical questions:
    I would like to ask you, LT, if you consider it a vile and bitter personal attack to call LD a eunuch?
    And to ask Matthew if such is acceptable here?

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    I see DL has been me to the punch.
    I think it is terrible for “traditional Catholic” young men to disrespect women online and in person. It happens. Many young men have an unhealthy attitude towards women.



    (Meg, you are)  prurient, disordered, rabid, ignorant, illogical people as you exemplify.).  

    Whoever made this statement is; not Meg. 

    Being told to bake a cake over and over again like broken record.  Is that the best comeback??? 

    Referring to these young trad men “dung” is nothing compared to what they were saying about tradhican and his wife.    They are also dung when they insult my husband who isn’t even on CI.   Dung isn’t  a cuss word.  Also, there are people who smoke dung.

    In real life it’s difficult dealing with jealous women and rude creepy single young trad men.  (We know the there is a problem with masturbation, pornography etc. ). 

     Only recently .. same sex couples are coming to mass.  It is huge distraction.














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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #28 on: March 31, 2022, 06:21:45 PM »
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    • Go smoke cow dung cake. 

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    Re: Spewing Bitter & Vile Personal Attacks
    « Reply #29 on: March 31, 2022, 06:25:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on March 31, 2022, 05:57:47 PM
    I think it is terrible for “traditional Catholic” young men to disrespect women online and in person.

    Well, if you want to play that game, it's inapprorpiate for women to argue with men online.  They should just stay in the kitchen and mind their families and engage in public debate with men, debate which often includes insults of their own.  What about the disrespect of these feminist women going online and rudely insulting men?  Women should submit to men in general and not have the audacity to debate them the way you and others do online.  So we can start right there.
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