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Offline Last Tradhican

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Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
« Reply #120 on: March 30, 2018, 09:13:15 AM »
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  • Girls erroneously learn from their mothers  and other women that their beauty and value comes from the attraction they can bring to themselves from men. They are taught that the way to attract men is to dress provocatively and to flirt. Even the most amazing looking girl does not know that they are beautiful except from the reaction of others, unless they are taught otherwise.

    I am a man who was in the world till I was 40, and I learned the fact that women gauge their beauty by the reaction of men, and I used it to attract the most beautiful women, by ignoring them and all of their flirting. The more I ignored them, the  more they flirted, till they were caught.

    Now I am a father of a lot of girls and I teach them to know their own self worth. I teach them that practically all the women in the world are infected with this mindset that "their beauty and value comes from the attraction they can bring to themselves from men".

    In poor countries dressing provocatively and to flirting is the way a poor woman can become rich overnight, however, it is like the lottery, 99+% of the women  will lose and will spend an entire life of misery, always wondering why they go from man to man, till their grave. Once a young girl is infected with this mindset, they are caught for life. Practically all women have this desease. It is the foundation of all immodesty and immorality.


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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #121 on: March 30, 2018, 11:57:40 AM »
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  • Girls erroneously learn from their mothers  and other women that their beauty and value comes from the attraction they can bring to themselves from men. They are taught that the way to attract men is to dress provocatively and to flirt. Even the most amazing looking girl does not know that they are beautiful except from the reaction of others, unless they are taught otherwise.

    I am a man who was in the world till I was 40, and I learned the fact that women gauge their beauty by the reaction of men, and I used it to attract the most beautiful women, by ignoring them and all of their flirting. The more I ignored them, the  more they flirted, till they were caught.

    Now I am a father of a lot of girls and I teach them to know their own self worth. I teach them that practically all the women in the world are infected with this mindset that "their beauty and value comes from the attraction they can bring to themselves from men".

    In poor countries dressing provocatively and to flirting is the way a poor woman can become rich overnight, however, it is like the lottery, 99+% of the women  will lose and will spend an entire life of misery, always wondering why they go from man to man, till their grave. Once a young girl is infected with this mindset, they are caught for life. Practically all women have this desease. It is the foundation of all immodesty and immorality.

    I beg to differ.
    Many teen girls give their parents hell during their teen years.  Many, when they leave home, fall to the pressures of their friends.  Many of those from sketchy backgrounds (born to non catholic parents who later divorced, then one remarries traditional), have pressure from their biological parents (male or female one, whoever is not sole guardian).

    I get tired of people always blaming the parents for the falls of the children.

    Everyone has free will and many use it against the advice of their trad parents.


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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #122 on: March 30, 2018, 11:58:25 AM »
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  • I beg to differ.

     Many teen girls give their parents hell during their teen years.  Many, when they leave home, fall to the pressures of their friends.  Many of those from sketchy backgrounds (born to non catholic parents who later divorced, then one remarries traditional), have pressure from their biological parents (male or female one, whoever is not sole guardian).

    I get tired of people always blaming the parents for the falls of the children.

    Everyone has free will and many use it against the advice of their trad parents.

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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #123 on: March 30, 2018, 12:33:19 PM »
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  • I beg to differ.
    Many teen girls give their parents hell during their teen years.  Many, when they leave home, fall to the pressures of their friends.  Many of those from sketchy backgrounds (born to non catholic parents who later divorced, then one remarries traditional), have pressure from their biological parents (male or female one, whoever is not sole guardian).

    I get tired of people always blaming the parents for the falls of the children.

    Everyone has free will and many use it against the advice of their trad parents.



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    Last Tradhican had written: "Girls erroneously learn from their mothers  and other women"

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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #124 on: March 30, 2018, 02:49:21 PM »
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  • I posit that it is not women who teach our girls immorality, but society, especially our public schools.

    California has the most provocative and  sɛҳuąƖly immoral reading list for public school students in kindergarten through high school for any state within the United States.

    Just three examples will suffice -- here are three books that will give you nightmares.

    They all deal with girls, the clothes they wear, how they can be seduced, and how girls can flirt to gain advantage with their classmates, with the boys, and with society in general.

    These books provide all the strategies used for seduction, so that the readers (our very impressionable youth) will learn the art of the trades.  And remember these books are intended for our children.

    Caution:  language and explicit sex.

    Alvarez, Julia, How the Garcia Girls Lost Their Accents, Plume (Penguin), New York, NY, 1991, 290 pp.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HTJO5Z6/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00HTJO5Z6&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20 />

    Blundell, Judy, What I Saw and How I Lied, Scholastic Press, New York, 2008, 284 pp.  (National Book Award, Winner)
    https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_2_18?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=what+i+saw+and+how+i+lied+by+judy+blundell&sprefix=What+I+saw+and+how%2Cstripbooks%2C276&crid=12K2O00IBV612


    Green, John,  Paper Towns, Dutton Books (Penguin), New York, NY, 2008, 309 pp.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/014241493X/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=014241493X&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20 />




    Lord have mercy.


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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #125 on: March 30, 2018, 03:34:46 PM »
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  • Again, I beg to differ.

    Eve had only Satan to teach her error.

    It all boils down to free will.

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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #126 on: March 30, 2018, 04:57:54 PM »
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  • Ahh, the ol nature vs nurture debate.  Fanny says sin is due to nature.  Last Tradhican says sin is due to nurture.  My opinion...it's both.

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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #127 on: March 30, 2018, 05:06:18 PM »
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  • Ahh, the ol nature vs nurture debate.  Fanny says sin is due to nature.  Last Tradhican says sin is due to nurture.  My opinion...it's both.
    Yes, exactly.
    We all suffer from the affects being born in this fallen world (nature), but if we are raised by saintly parents, and if we follow their example, then we have a better chance of avoiding most sinful occasions and of attaining saintliness through the grace of God (nurture).
    Lord have mercy.


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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #128 on: March 30, 2018, 05:55:21 PM »
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  • I posit that it is not women who teach our girls immorality, but society, especially our public schools.
    Society contains no women? 

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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #129 on: March 30, 2018, 06:22:54 PM »
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  • Society contains no women?

    It is men as well as women who are corrupting our little girls and little boys.

    Our mandatory sex education from kindergarden to college corrupts all of the students, leaving them no longer virgins mentally, spiritually, and/or physically.

    Who murdered St. Mary Goretti? Was it not a man who was attempting to rape her even though she said, "No."

    Who wrote Paper Towns, a very seductive book which teaches boys how to seduce women, etc? Was it not a man by the name of John Green?

    And my professor at the university who taught Literature in the High School Years and who compiled a mandatory reading list containing 14 books of which 10 were simply awful, he certainly was a man. In addition, this professor told us that seduction and rape occur too often in public schools, that teachers must prepare students to deal with rape, and that students should know how to protect themselves.  However, there is a huge difference between giving students books to read that teach them how to seduce and how to rape, and in teaching self-defense.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #130 on: March 30, 2018, 06:31:18 PM »
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  • Ahh, the ol nature vs nurture debate.  Fanny says sin is due to nature.  Last Tradhican says sin is due to nurture.  My opinion...it's both.
    You are wrong.

    No matter how children are nurtured they can still choose the right or wrong path, at any age of their life.

    When one of your children chooses the wrong path, you will understand.

    Free will.


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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #131 on: March 31, 2018, 10:28:22 AM »
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  • It is men as well as women who are corrupting our little girls and little boys.

    Our mandatory sex education from kindergarden to college corrupts all of the students, leaving them no longer virgins mentally, spiritually, and/or physically.

    Who murdered St. Mary Goretti? Was it not a man who was attempting to rape her even though she said, "No."

    Who wrote Paper Towns, a very seductive book which teaches boys how to seduce women, etc? Was it not a man by the name of John Green?

    And my professor at the university who taught Literature in the High School Years and who compiled a mandatory reading list containing 14 books of which 10 were simply awful, he certainly was a man. In addition, this professor told us that seduction and rape occur too often in public schools, that teachers must prepare students to deal with rape, and that students should know how to protect themselves.  However, there is a huge difference between giving students books to read that teach them how to seduce and how to rape, and in teaching self-defense.
    I am talking about my daughters and the daughters of other traditionalists, talking to their parents. It never entered my mind that they are sending their children to public schools, or sending their daughters off to college to live by themselves.  The people who send their daughters to public schools and away to college are of the world, too far gone for me to hope to have any influence on them. What I do for my daughters would be useless if I sent them to public schools, it would be like building a square fort with 30' high concrete walls on only three sides! What I write has barely any influence among the SSPX trads that send their children to SSPX schools, so you can forget about the rest of the world. 

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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #132 on: March 31, 2018, 02:18:49 PM »
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  • Well, my impression has been that women get their sense of beauty from other women more than they do from men.  When they dress a certain way, most of the time they're trying to be noticed by other women rather than men.  If they adopt certain fashions, it's almost always because they see other women wearing these things.  Very few women truly understand the effect that they way they dress, and look, and behave can have on men.

    And they value the opinions of their peers much more than they do those of their parents.  Thus the teenage rebellion to which Fanny referred.  They hear their parents saying one thing and then see their friends doing another.  They begin to resent the fact that they can't be like everyone else.  Boys care a lot less for being like all the other boys, but girls are absolutely driven by it.

    It's even worse when these peers are Traditional Catholics.  I didn't let my daughters listen to most modern pop music.  When they asked about Katie Perry, I explained that she was bad and that they shouldn't listen to her.  And their response was that even their Traditional Catholic friends listen to her music.  So now we're more Traditional than even Traditional Catholics, they wonder?  This is a hard battle for parents these days.

    Because I'm sensitive to building up too much resentment against Traditional Catholicism and the Church, and do make some concessions that I am not perfectly happy about ... because I know how much it bothers the girls that we're "weird" and not like everyone else.  Plus, I think that it's important that they don't develop a "forbidden fruit" mentality and desire to taste the fruit in an uncontrolled environment.

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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #133 on: March 31, 2018, 03:21:35 PM »
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  • No matter how children are nurtured they can still choose the right or wrong path, at any age of their life.
    Of course they can!
    It seems some here think that because children were brought up properly when they become teenagers the devil will leave them alone.  SURPRISE.....these children will be tempted most.  And many will fall.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #134 on: March 31, 2018, 07:24:03 PM »
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  • Of course they can!
    It seems some here think that because children were brought up properly when they become teenagers the devil will leave them alone.  SURPRISE.....these children will be tempted most.  And many will fall.

    Indeed, Judas spent several years in close contact with Our Lord God ... and yet somehow he found a way to reject all that grace and lose his soul.  Could we even imagine the graces available to him in such close proximity to Our Lord?  It's the mystery of free will.

    Too much is sometimes made regarding the parents' contribution to a child's ultimate fate, both in the case of parents who want to take credit for how their children turned out (when things seem good) and in the case of people trying to assign blame where the children have gone astray.  Does anyone blame Our Lord for the fact that Judas was lost?  Parents can bring the horse to water, so to speak, but they can't make it drink.  Yes, parents are culpable for their failings, but even their failings God has will to be experienced by the soul of a particular child.  I've known people to have gone astray who came from a nearly-ideal family situations, and others who became very devout despite coming from broken homes.  In the case of the latter, that brokenness undoubtedly contributed to their current positive state.  God disposes all things for the sake of His elect.