Author Topic: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women (Read 11916 times)

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #45 on:** March 13, 2018, 01:45:16 AM »

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Last Tradhican · « **Reply #46 on:** March 13, 2018, 08:26:20 AM »

Quote from: Croix de Fer on March 12, 2018, 11:47:29 PM

Fake paradigm, brah, for both are inspired by the Jєω.

The left is Wahhabism, which was created by crypto-Jєωs; and the House of Saud is a crypto-Jєω family, which is why you never see them intervene on behalf of, or give aid to, Palestinians who are victims of Israeli ethnic cleansing. It's why Saudi Arabia and Israel colluded to create ISIS to try to destroy Syria. They collaborated to foment the revolution in Syria along with providing outside mercenaries and ISIS to overthrow Assad.

The right is the early genesis of the spirit of Asmodeus, which manifests in pop culture's dress attire. As intended, in this post-modern age, the attire of prostitutes from 10-15 years ago becomes the normal casual wear of little girls and women, today.

As Cantarella says, both are an affront to the dignity of woman.

Thanks for the explanation.

Anyhow, like I said, it is ridiculous to bring it up in the first place, as the Church has never asked women to cover their heads with a sack. The man that posted it likely thought it was funny, who knows what the reason was. I have six young daughters and I do not think it is funny to derail this serious thread with such inane infantilism.

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #47 on:** March 13, 2018, 08:40:00 AM »

Quote from: Carissima on March 12, 2018, 11:43:38 PM

I tweak clothing for my younger girls quite easily, which one could do similarly with these outfits also.
One example: Do you know those formal dresses for girls that are mostly tank style that come out every Spring? My solution, I put a white collared school shirt underneath(pictured below)..modesty problem solved. So no more fretting over not being able to find modest dresses I just use cotton shirts and sweaters. Easy-peasy: )

You are a good example to the your chapel and the world. An example affects many more people than you can even imagine.

When we would go to restaurants, there is practically not one time that some one does not come up to us to commend us on the behavior of our children. My wife is a very good cook, so the children are accustomed to eating adult foods from all over the world and food for them is a big festival. All the children at the table eating and conversing and trying each others dish, it is a big festival. You can see many couples and adults looking at the party and marveling. The clothes my girls wear is part of the attraction, it separates them from the world, it is what first attracts everyone. On two occasions, when I asked for the bill, the waiter told me it was paid already by someone who wished to remain anonymous. This is how one family can change the world, by actually looking like someone who is serious about living a happy holy life.

Matthew · « **Reply #48 on:** March 13, 2018, 08:54:56 AM »

All the people that complain about the content of CathInfo need to visit THIS THREAD. This is a great discussion, including actual useful information (plus some good personal reports/anecdotes, which is also valuable in forming wisdom or a big-picture knowledge of the world as it exists today)

If I had a "best threads" system, where I could star certain threads and have them appear in a "best threads" list, this one would probably get the star.

Maybe that's something I should work towards. Maybe in a few weeks when I'm unemployed.

Matthew · « **Reply #49 on:** March 13, 2018, 09:00:41 AM »

Quote from: tdrev123 on March 12, 2018, 02:19:49 AM

Because the modest families have 10 children while the immodest ones have 5. Eventually the laity will become modest again, by process of elimination.

Be careful there.... 5 children is well within range of assuming a family isn't using NFP, much less (mortally sinful) artificial birth control. It is within range of "normal family size" at least for some towards the back of the curve.

Family size is like a normal distribution curve (like IQ) -- there's the low back of the hump, the peak in the middle, and then it slopes down again on the other side. Right now the "peak" is at 2 children whereas it should be peaking around 7 or so.

I have a serious problem with those who put "10 or 12 children" families on some kind of pedestal, as if they are more Catholic, more serious, more Trad, or more holy than my family with 7 children. Not everyone has the same fertility, not everyone marries at 18 or 20, and not everyone breastfeeds their children (which is best for them).

The Church doesn't judge by numbers -- neither should we.

I think some of these "10 to 12 children" families that people look up to are just sinning in a different way -- they are proud, and feel they have "out-Tradded" everyone. Basically their mentality is that of the Pharisees. They fulfill the letter of the law better than anyone around them, so they're "the best" they think.

Fanny · « **Reply #50 on:** March 13, 2018, 09:12:19 AM »

Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 12, 2018, 10:45:38 PM

Most of the young girls at my SSPX chapel outside of mass, wear short shorts, tight jeans, tight revealing tank tops with belly exposed and such clothing same as anybody else in the world. If the fashions you posted are for every day wear, they are a step in the right direction.

Some of the items though remind me of movies. There are some (very few) excellent movies, that teach a good lesson, entertain, or provide a good laugh (comedies), however, coming from Hollywood, they practically always contain one scene or a few words that makes the entire movie unwatchable for children and young adults. There is absolutely no need to add those scenes, as they only detract from the movie, but Hollywood has its purpose for adding those little details, to corrupt young people.

I am a father of quite a few girls. In the case of those fashions you posted, they are like the excellent movies I just described above, everything is fine, except they added something totally unnecessary which makes it unwearable for my girls. The two white tops are see through and the underwear is colored. There is no need for the see through, or the colored underwear below. If you blow up the first picture you will see what I mean. In the second picture, it is not as clear. The two tops are also tight. If those two models were built like Marilyn Monroe, there would be no difference between the tight sweater picture I posted of her and the white tops in your pictures.

There is no need for the tops to be see through, or tight, or the underwear colored. If those details were corrected, then these outfits could be worn by my girls.

Same goes for the young ladies at my sspx chapel, except they often wear the immodest clothing to mass, too. Nightie looking things, mid thigh skirts, super tight blouses (even from the "bonnet people" girls). Some of the girls post photos of themselves in bikinis on their Facebook pages.
I agree with the fashion comments you posted, too. We just don't allow white blouses anymore because we can't find any that are NOT see through.

Fanny · « **Reply #51 on:** March 13, 2018, 09:14:56 AM »

Quote from: Carissima on March 12, 2018, 11:43:38 PM

These examples were only shown to give a rough idea of ‘modern modest’.
I tweak clothing for my younger girls quite easily, which one could do similarly with these outfits also.
One example: Do you know those formal dresses for girls that are mostly tank style that come out every Spring? My solution, I put a white collared school shirt underneath(pictured below)..modesty problem solved. So no more fretting over not being able to find modest dresses I just use cotton shirts and sweaters. Easy-peasy: )

Yeah, i tried that, too. Problem is, when my daughter grew up and moved out, she was so used to buying such dresses that she continued to buy such but began to forget the undershirt.
I say a big fat NO to modifying immodest clothing to try to make it modest. If it can't be worn as-is, it doesn't belong in my house or on my children.

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #52 on:** March 13, 2018, 09:44:46 AM »

Here is a snippet from an older related thread that is foundational in the discussion we are having here. That tight sweater fashion in the Marilyn Monroe picture is worn by many ladies in my chapel who are over 50, and it is a bad example to the young girls. When the young girls, like a 23 year old Marilyn Monroe type, wear the same fashion it becomes scandalous. The problem is that knit fabric was always underwear, it is now underwear being worn on the outside. Why do women wear stretch tight underwear on the outside? Here is why they do it (the thread https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/what-is-immodest-dress-to-the-sspx-clergy/ goes into more detail):

Here is the lesson I teach my daughters from the time they start noticing boys:

Women erroneously learn from other women that their beauty and value comes from the attraction they can bring to themselves from men. They are taught that the way to attract men is to dress provocatively and to flirt. In poor countries this is the way a woman can become rich overnight, however, it is like the lottery, 99+% of the women will lose and will spend an entire life of misery, always wondering why they go from man to man, till their grave.

Once a young girl is infected with this mindset, they are caught for life.

Practically all women have this decease. It is the foundation of all immodesty and immorality.

Those that have eyes to see, let them see.

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #53 on:** March 13, 2018, 10:04:52 AM »

Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 13, 2018, 09:44:46 AM

Here is the lesson I teach my daughters from the time they start noticing boys:

Women erroneously learn from other women that their beauty and value comes from the attraction they can bring to themselves from men. They are taught that the way to attract men is to dress provocatively and to flirt. In poor countries this is the way a woman can become rich overnight, however, it is like the lottery, 99+% of the women will lose and will spend an entire life of misery, always wondering why they go from man to man, till their grave.

There has been for some reason a sudden arrival of Novus Ordo Latina women to our chapel. Latina women are the most affected group by this dress provocatively to attract men mindset, and despite bouncing from one man to another all their lives, they continue with the same error, teaching it to their daughters. Here is an example of the typical clothes they wear to mass, everything is always skin tight, like sausage casing.

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #54 on:** March 13, 2018, 10:12:30 AM »

Until the peoples of Latin America realize that their wealth is in the Faith, and they return TO LIVE as Catholics, they will continue on the same path of poverty, immorality, illegitimate births, abortions, and crime.

Theodore Roosevelt when he paid a visit to South America at the turn of the 20th century said: “While these countries remain Catholic,” he said, “we will not be able to dominate them.”

Put another way, as long as the people are fallen away Catholics, CINO’s, Protestants, pagans, athiests, and Marxists, they can be easily dominated. As is the case today.

Outside of the Catholic Faith, and what little remains of the Catholic culture in Latin America, I see little to be proud of. Without the Faith, Latin America is just another Africa.

TxTrad · « **Reply #55 on:** March 13, 2018, 10:18:26 AM »

Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 13, 2018, 10:04:52 AM

There has been for some reason a sudden arrival of Novus Ordo Latina women to our chapel. Latina women are the most affected group by this dress provocatively to attract men mindset, and despite bouncing from one man to another all their lives, they continue with the same error, teaching it to their daughters. Here is an example of the typical clothes they wear to mass, everything is always skin tight, like sausage casing.

This is what some of the young ladies wear at our sspx chapel. They add a little bolo jacket or bolo sweater over it.

TxTrad · « **Reply #56 on:** March 13, 2018, 10:20:38 AM »

Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 13, 2018, 09:44:46 AM

Here is the lesson I teach my daughters from the time they start noticing boys:

Once a young girl is infected with this mindset, they are caught for life.

I recommend starting before they notice boys. Long before.

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #57 on:** March 13, 2018, 10:37:25 AM »

The problem with this outfit is that like I said:

Stretch knit fabric was always underwear, it is now just underwear being worn on the outside. It is no different than the sausage casing outfit worn by the Latina woman, except this model has a slim figure. When more built young girls, like a 23 year old Marilyn Monroe type, wear the same fashion it becomes scandalous. Why wear such tight clothes? There is absolutely no need for it.

Cantarella · « **Reply #58 on:** March 13, 2018, 11:59:14 AM »

Exhortation to Those in Authority

By Cardinal Donato Sbaretti 1930

1. When occasion arises, the parish priest, and especially the preacher, should, according to the words of the Apostle Paul (2 Tim. iv, 2), insist, argue, exhort and command that feminine garb be based on modesty and that womanly ornament be a defense of virtue. Let them likewise admonish parents who allow their daughters to wear indecorous dress.

2. Parents, conscious of their grave obligations to their offspring regarding education, especially religious and moral, should see to it that their daughters are solidly instructed from earliest childhood in Christian doctrine. And they themselves should assiduously inculcate in their souls, by word and example, love for the virtues of modesty and chastity. Since their family should follow the example of the Holy Family, they must govern in such a way that all its members, reared within the walls of the home, should find reason and incentive to love and preserve modesty.

3. Let parents keep their daughters away from public gymnastic games and contests; but if their daughters are compelled to attend such exhibitions, let them see that they are fully and modestly dressed. Let them never permit their daughters to don immodest garb.

4. Superiors and teachers in schools for girls must do their utmost to instill love of modesty in the hearts of the girls confided to their care and urge them to dress modestly.

5. Said Superiors and teachers must not receive in their colleges and schools immodestly dressed girls, and should not even make an exception in the case of mothers of pupils. If, after being admitted, girls persist in dressing immodestly, such pupils should be dismissed.

6. Sisters, in compliance with the Letter dated August 23, 1928 by the Sacred Congregation of Religious, must not receive in their colleges, schools, oratories or recreation grounds girls who are not dressed with Christian modesty, or, if once admitted, they should not tolerate this. Said Sisters, in addition, should do their utmost so that love for holy chastity and Christian modesty may become deeply rooted in the hearts of their pupils.

7. It is desirable that pious organizations of women be founded, which, by their counsel, example and propaganda will combat the wearing of apparel unsuited to Christian modesty, and will promote purity of customs and modesty of dress.

8. In pious associations of women, those who dress immodestly should not be admitted to membership. But if, perchance, they are received, and after having been admitted, fall again into their error, they should be dismissed forthwith.

9. Women and girls who are dressed immodestly are to be debarred from Holy Communion and from acting as sponsors at the Sacraments of Baptism and Confirmation. Further, if the offense be extreme, they may even be forbidden to enter the church.

Cardinal Donato Sbaretti
Prefect of the Congregation of the Council
Rome, January 12, 1930

Fanny · « **Reply #59 on:** March 13, 2018, 01:21:59 PM »

This is what some of the young ladies at my sspx wear (haven't been for a couple of years, so things may have changed), along with a tight white blouse and dark underwear.

I just don't understand the parents of such girls.

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