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Offline Last Tradhican

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Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
« on: March 11, 2018, 10:30:08 AM »
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    • Here is a picture of Marilyn Monroe in what was called I think the "tight sweater" fashion. No Catholic woman would have worn that to mass in those times, but today even traditionalist women in their 50's and up wear them to mass and think nothing of it. What do the ladies here have to say about this?


     
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #1 on: March 11, 2018, 10:33:42 AM »
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    • And as far as the young women, they almost all wear the fashion to mass, and of course the other 167 hours a week. 
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #2 on: March 11, 2018, 12:35:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 11, 2018, 10:30:08 AM
    What do the ladies here have to say about this?
    This lady says you have too much time on your hands.  Instead of searching for offensive photos on the net, when you see objectionable attire at church, AVERT YOUR EYES and say a short prayer for the person.
    Everyone is in a different place on the road to eternity.  Pray they will follow the example of more devout women at Mass.  Be thankful they are at Mass to get the graces they are in need of to change their wayward inclinations.
    At Mass your attention should definitely be elsewhere.
      Let the women take care of the offenders.
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #3 on: March 11, 2018, 12:47:10 PM »
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    • Initially I showed  up to Mass in jeans n tee shirt, now I don't own a pair of jeans!
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #4 on: March 11, 2018, 01:02:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miseremini on March 11, 2018, 12:35:24 PM
    This lady says you have too much time on your hands.  Instead of searching for offensive photos on the net, when you see objectionable attire at church, AVERT YOUR EYES and say a short prayer for the person.
    Everyone is in a different place on the road to eternity.  Pray they will follow the example of more devout women at Mass.  Be thankful they are at Mass to get the graces they are in need of to change their wayward inclinations. Let the women take care of the offenders.
    The answer you give then is to pray they will follow the example of more devout women at Mass and let the women take care of the offenders.

    But, the women have no authority to take care of the offenders, and most of the women are the ones dressing like that.

    It is the duty of the fathers of the young ladies and the husbands of the older women to teach their females how to dress properly, NOT just at mass, but the other 167 hours of the week.  It is also the duty of the priest to preach on the subject. The fathers and the priests do have the authority.


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    At Mass your attention should definitely be elsewhere.
    At mass, my attention is on the mass and all of my children. The problem is that those young girls and women are bad examples to my girls.  
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #5 on: March 11, 2018, 02:08:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 11, 2018, 01:02:12 PM
    But, the women have no authority to take care of the offenders,
    NONSENSE !  Every Catholic has the authority and obligation to instruct the ignorant!
    This is one area where the Christian Mothers Archconfraternity would step in in the past.
    Just as the Holy Name Society would step in in a similar situation with a young man.

    It is the duty of the fathers of the young ladies and the husbands of the older women to teach their females how to dress properly,

    Well obviously their fathers or husbands didn't do a good job or the offenders are exercising their free will badly.

     The problem is that those young girls and women are bad examples to my girls.
    I totally agree that is why in such a case the priest should ask the older ladies to take care of the problem if
    his sermons don't seem to be having an affect.   A woman IF NEED BE, can be more blunt with another woman than a priest can. (unles of course it was St. Jean Vianney)
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #6 on: March 11, 2018, 02:13:32 PM »
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    • The OP is no small irony in so much as it displays 2 impure fashion images and then complains about impure fashions.  As a man I can honestly say that were I to be pulled into staring at those images I would in all likelihood commit a sin if not necessarily by direct thought and even possible subsequent action then at the very least by having willfully and knowingly placed myself in the immediate occasion of sin.

    Unfortunately, there are some Catholic websites such as traditioninaction.org that seem to think it is perfectly all right to place very impure images on their sites.  (It is particularly ironic for tradtioninaction.org to do so in so far as they carry a number of excellent articles rightly decrying the use of immodest/impure fashions.)

    As Catholics we should never forget the basic Catholic principle that one may never do evil in order to bring about good.  That includes the placement of impure images on the Internet -- especially on a Catholic site!  

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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #7 on: March 11, 2018, 02:15:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: klasG4e on March 11, 2018, 02:13:32 PM
    The OP is no small irony in so much as it displays 2 impure fashion images and then complains about impure fashions.  As a man I can honestly say that were I to be pulled into staring at those images I would in all likelihood commit a sin if not necessarily by direct thought and even possible subsequent action then at the very least by having willfully and knowingly placed myself in the immediate occasion of sin.

    Unfortunately, there are some Catholic websites such as traditioninaction.org that seem to think it is perfectly all right to place very impure images on their sites.  (It is particularly ironic for tradtioninaction.org to do so in so far as they carry a number of excellent articles rightly decrying the use of immodest/impure fashions.)

    As Catholics we should never forget the basic Catholic principle that one may never do evil in order to bring about good.  That includes the placement of impure images on the Internet -- especially on a Catholic site!  

    P.S. I will not bother to try defending anything that I have stated above since it is my strong and informed conviction.  Furthermore, what I have stated above is simple, clear, and unambiguous.
    A Catholic gentleman with common sense.
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #8 on: March 11, 2018, 07:31:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: klasG4e on March 11, 2018, 02:13:32 PM
    The OP is no small irony in so much as it displays 2 impure fashion images and then complains about impure fashions.  As a man I can honestly say that were I to be pulled into staring at those images I would in all likelihood commit a sin if not necessarily by direct thought and even possible subsequent action then at the very least by having willfully and knowingly placed myself in the immediate occasion of sin.

    Unfortunately, there are some Catholic websites such as traditioninaction.org that seem to think it is perfectly all right to place very impure images on their sites.  (It is particularly ironic for tradtioninaction.org to do so in so far as they carry a number of excellent articles rightly decrying the use of immodest/impure fashions.)

    As Catholics we should never forget the basic Catholic principle that one may never do evil in order to bring about good.  That includes the placement of impure images on the Internet -- especially on a Catholic site!  
    Easy to say anonymously to pictures, but do you have the manhood to say it to all those women wearing the same thing at your Church or your wife and children?
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #9 on: March 11, 2018, 07:35:53 PM »
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    • Obviously the “women’s league” at his church isn’t doing their job or else these young ladies would be dressing more appropriately.  You’re also assuming there is a “women’s league”...our chapel doesn’t have anything like that.  I also find it a bit feminist for a woman to be telling a father to “keep your head down and pray and let the women handle it.”  
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #10 on: March 11, 2018, 07:44:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: klasG4e on March 11, 2018, 02:13:32 PM
    As a man I can honestly say that were I to be pulled into staring at those images I would in all likelihood commit a sin if not necessarily by direct thought and even possible subsequent action then at the very least by having willfully and knowingly placed myself in the immediate occasion of sin.
    Then you must live by yourself in a desert island and never see any women at all, for those fashions are nothing compared to what is ALL around us in the real world. What planet are you on?
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #11 on: March 11, 2018, 07:51:36 PM »
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    This is one area where the Christian Mothers Archconfraternity would step in in the past.
    Just as the Holy Name Society would step in in a similar situation with a young man.
    That was the case in the 1950's and before,  but that has not happened in any SSPX chapel I've ever heard of. No group says anything anymore, they are all neutered just like the fathers/husbands. We have to start somewhere and so it must begin with the individual families and their head, the fathers. A good family here and there can affect many people, and be a good example. 
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #12 on: March 11, 2018, 08:01:48 PM »
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    • Being as a large percentage of the ladies over 50 years of age and practically all the young girls at my SSPX chapel dress like the pictures to mass, a good percentage of the ladies here on CI must not think there is anyhing wrong with the fashion. I'd like to hear from them.
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #13 on: March 11, 2018, 08:43:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 11, 2018, 07:31:40 PM
    Easy to say anonymously to pictures, but do you have the manhood to say it to all those women wearing the same thing at your Church or your wife and children?

    What exactly do you disagree with what I stated in my comments?  As for my manhood it is none of your concern.  And where do you get off referring to [my] "wife and children?
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #14 on: March 11, 2018, 08:45:43 PM »
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    • There's plenty of things we men fail at, but if we're talking about women's fashion, 90% of TRAD WOMEN are de-sensitized to immoral dress.  Padre Pio wouldn't hear confessions of women whose skirts weren't TO THE ANKLES and/or who HAD BARE ARMS!  Meanwhile, in our 21st century, women wear sleeveless shirts, or tight skirts, etc AT MASS.  It's a sad, sad state of affairs.  

    Then trads make fun of families who dress like 18th century amish.  Ok, they look weird, but who cares?  Getting to heaven isn't a popularity contest - at least God is pleased with their modesty.  It's better to be unpopular than to burn for all eternity.  At least that's how catholics used to think...
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