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Offline Ballistol

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Re: Sitting out the election?
« Reply #60 on: July 03, 2020, 04:12:04 PM »
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  • Says the guy who’s going to “sit out” this election.  ? ? ?

    Voting isn't action. You're deceived. You're a useful tool. Keep voting for one of the two wings of the same bird. The flight plan doesn't change.


    Offline Cera

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #61 on: July 03, 2020, 04:14:55 PM »
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  • As applied to politics, it's the tactic of polarizing the two sides on issues of lesser concern (at the moment) for the polarizers while having both groups secretly (and out of the spotlight) agree on other issues that are of interest to them.  So, for instance, abortion is actually manipulated to be such a polarizing topic.  It's a very emotional issue and polarizes the two sides.  This entire racial thing is also along those lines.  Meanwhile, both parties loot the government, enrich themselves, are on the take from private corporations, and are selling out the country in bad trade deals, etc. etc.  But because people are focused on the hot-button issues, they pay less attention to these other nefarious activities being done by both parties in lock-step with one another.

    It's not a precise application of Hegel, although you see some of that too, where the two opposite sides end up being polarized so that they can come up with an agreement that slides the bar on a particular issue in the direction that the manipulators want it to go.

    But the hostility that Democrats and Republicans exhibit toward one another in public is nothing but a performance, a theater act, not unlike the fake wrestling (ala WWE) spectacles.  At the end of the day, they're all on the same team and working for the same masters, just as the wrestlers are all employed by the same people and making a show of hostility as a performance.

    Of course, occasionally some honest sincere people slip into their ranks, such as a Ron Paul.  But they just keep them down one way or another.  They don't mind a few of these, because it gives the impression that not everyone in the government is controlled.  Former Congressmen have talked about how the second they won office, they had women coming after them trying to seduce them.  Epstein was a Mossad operative whose sole mission was to obtain blackmail material on various politicians and other people of influence so that they could be controlled by Mossad.  And Epstein is just one of many, one who happened to get caught.  Lewinsky was also on the Mossad payroll, and at one point during the investigation, there's a recording of Bill Clinton telling Lewinsky to be careful because the phone lines at the White House are tapped by a foreign government.  Perhaps that was Zimbabwe tapping the White House phones.

    Both parties are absolutely dominated and controlled by the Jєωs, but the Jєωs actually are more open about their support of Republicans.  Just look at all the Jєωs with whom Trump is absolutely surrounded.  Trump created a Jєωιѕн swamp inside the White House.  His daughter is married to one, and several Jєωs have bailed Trump out of bankruptcy.  You don't make millions in real estate in New York City without being beholden to the Jєωs.  There's little doubt that Ivanka didn't marry Kushner simply because she fell head-over-heels in love with him.  This was likely an arranged marriage so that Kushner could direct Trump.  One could go on for hours about Trump and the Jєωs.
    Great explanation. I find nothing in what you said to disagree with.
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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #62 on: July 03, 2020, 04:22:04 PM »
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  • Great explanation. I find nothing in what you said to disagree with.


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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #63 on: July 03, 2020, 04:33:06 PM »
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  • If a commie is elected and shuts down churches, is God pleased?  Does it make your salvation easier or harder?  History shows that highly stressful and catastrophic events can cause many people to lose their Faith.  Does this not affect all areas of the Church as well?  Of course.  Vote anti-communist in principle.  If that means voting for Trump, so be it.  Ideals have to be thrown out the window in the middle of a war, replaced by prudence and practicality.  And we’re smack dab in the middle of a war for our country and western civilization.
    Amen. We are like the Catholics in France just prior to the French Revolution. The enemies of the Church have torn down the Cross and statues of Catholic saints, they have burned Notre Dame, threatened violence against traditional Catholic church in San Diego, they have looted, they have torched businesses and burned them to the ground, they have raped and shot innocent bystanders (Chaz), they are threatening to come to "white" suburbs to kill and burn.
    The government's response has been to defund law enforcement, release felons from prison, permit looting under $1000 in some states, end bail, release felons with a ticket to appear in court. Under cover of the Chi Com plague, they have closed down churches, currently forbidding singing in church, currently forbidding collections in some states -- all the while calling baby-killing places, liquor store and pot shops "essential."
    If the God-hating dems take control of the Presidency and both houses -- what we are undergoing right now will look like the good old days. They will completely empty the prisons,criminalize being pro-life and pro-family and will remove children from the homes of those who refuse to comply with political correctness and mandatory vacccines.
    We have a God-given opportunity to slow the progress of their evil plans. To fail to do so is to reap the whirlwind.

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #64 on: July 03, 2020, 05:13:52 PM »
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  • Amen. We are like the Catholics in France just prior to the French Revolution. The enemies of the Church have torn down the Cross and statues of Catholic saints, they have burned Notre Dame, threatened violence against traditional Catholic church in San Diego, they have looted, they have torched businesses and burned them to the ground, they have raped and shot innocent bystanders (Chaz), they are threatening to come to "white" suburbs to kill and burn.
    The government's response has been to defund law enforcement, release felons from prison, permit looting under $1000 in some states, end bail, release felons with a ticket to appear in court. Under cover of the Chi Com plague, they have closed down churches, currently forbidding singing in church, currently forbidding collections in some states -- all the while calling baby-killing places, liquor store and pot shops "essential."
    If the God-hating dems take control of the Presidency and both houses -- what we are undergoing right now will look like the good old days. They will completely empty the prisons,criminalize being pro-life and pro-family and will remove children from the homes of those who refuse to comply with political correctness and mandatory vacccines.
    We have a God-given opportunity to slow the progress of their evil plans. To fail to do so is to reap the whirlwind.
    What does slowing down the progress do in the long run if the end game is the same?
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #65 on: July 03, 2020, 05:26:09 PM »
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  • Fact check:
    Even the Trump-haters at Snopes call this FALSE.
    The below-reproduced image and quote attributed to Donald Trump began appearing in our inbox in mid-October 2015. The format is easily recognizable as one wherein questionable or offensive words are attributed to the individual pictured, and in this case image claims that Donald Trump made the following statement in a 1998 interview with People magazine:

     
    Despite People‘s comprehensive online content archive, we found no interview or profile on Donald Trump in 1998 (or any other time) that quoted his saying anything that even vaguely resembled the words in this meme. Trump appeared somewhat regularly in the magazine’s pages before he came to star on The Apprentice, but the bulk of the magazine’s celebrity-driven coverage of him back then centered on his marriages to, and divorces from, Ivana Trump and Marla Maples.
    Trump’s political endeavors (or the absence of them) did rate some space on the magazine’s pages, though. For example, a December 1987 profile titled “Too Darn Rich” chronicled Trump’s later claims that he had been courted by both Democrats and Republicans:
    Waking up will be a nightmare.  We're going into the worst part of the NWO and Trump is leading the way. I hate that this is the truth because I also hoped we would get reprieve from Trump, too. There is every way for you to know we're all being sold down the river if you only consider that human assistance is futile. Refuse to act like Peter who thought about the physical world, telling Jesus, No Lord, you will not die.  For this, Jesus called him Satan.  The world will not recover. Trump is not our savior and our former way of life is fading. You and I probably won't cross paths when you find out how everyone has been duped.  Zero hard feelings from me, because one person's knowing the truth probably wouldn't have helped much, unless of course, you are praying and sacrificing. For that we'll all benefit.   

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #66 on: July 03, 2020, 05:36:59 PM »
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  • What does slowing down the progress do in the long run if the end game is the same?
    Thank you for asking this. For my husband and myself personally, we have family members who are lost. We pray that they will survive through the Chastisement to the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
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    Offline Cera

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #67 on: July 03, 2020, 05:42:08 PM »
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  • Trump is not our savior and our former way of life is fading. You and I probably won't cross paths when you find out how everyone has been duped.  Zero hard feelings from me, because one person's knowing the truth probably wouldn't have helped much, unless of course, you are praying and sacrificing. For that we'll all benefit.  
    I hear you. Never did I perceive Trump as anything like a "savior." I have to say, the more you known about the Clintons and their friends the Podesta brothers, Jeffrey Epstein, etc. the more the bar is lowered. Basically, I voted against the satanists, pederasts and pedophiles.
    I agree with you regarding more praying and more sacrifices.
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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #68 on: July 03, 2020, 05:44:13 PM »
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  • Waking up will be a nightmare.
    Not for me and my DH. We woke up in the 60s.
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    Offline Ballistol

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #69 on: July 03, 2020, 06:05:57 PM »
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  • What does slowing down the progress do in the long run if the end game is the same?

    Thank you for asking this. For my husband and myself personally, we have family members who are lost. We pray that they will survive through the Chastisement to the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

    2Vermont, that is a very good question.

    Slowing down the progress is a more severe punishment. That's why there hasn't been a chastisement yet. We're being punished for our sins, lukewarmness, and faithlessness by remaining in a muck that is getting deeper. A chastisement would be an act of Divine mercy and charity to the Faithful because it wipes away God's enemies, even if many of the just must die in the process for God's greater glory. Those who survive would no longer be tormented by the enemies of God and blasphemers because they'd be wiped out, so that's how it's an act of mercy and charity. Those surviving souls would no longer be subjected to the scandals and immoral rot that can infect their souls and, thus, lead them to hell.

    Regarding part of Cera's comment, the unconverted better convert now*, and we should pray for a chastisement to wipe away God's enemies, and offer our sufferings in the process to God's greater glory.

    *[8] Delay not to be converted to the Lord, and defer it not from day to day. [9] For his wrath shall come on a sudden, and in the time of vengeance he will destroy thee. [10] Be not anxious for goods unjustly gotten: for they shall not profit thee in the day of calamity and revenge.
    ~ Ecclesiasticus 5:8-10

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #70 on: July 03, 2020, 07:02:11 PM »
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  • Ever hear of Moses and the 10
    Commandments?  We must worship God each week, on the Lord’s Day, which THE LORD (not the church) changed from Saturday’s to Sunday’s when He sent the Holy Ghost on Pentecost.  
    Yes, the base period is per week. Plus periodically as the Church establishes other Holy Days of obligation.


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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #71 on: July 03, 2020, 07:04:24 PM »
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  • It’s not based loosely, it’s of Tradition that the Apostles started this penance due to Christ’s death, but it’s also a continuation of the Old Law, as Christ’s sacrifice was a replacement of the Passover, which also had Divine Laws regarding fasting.  As Christ said “I came not to destroy but to fulfill”.  The new law is the same as the old law, but better.  If there was fasting in the old law (by Divine command) to commemorate the Pasch, so there is fasting in the new to commemorate Calvary, the new Pasch.

    So, you're saying the Church doesn't have the power to change abstinence from meat on Good Friday?

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #72 on: July 03, 2020, 08:22:26 PM »
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  • I wonder if those on here trying to get Catholics not to vote for Trump are paid trolls working for the communists. This should be a no brainer for Catholics, but they sow the seed of dissension to cloud the issue and are getting Catholics to sit home on Election Day, effectually giving the presidency to Joe Biden who is a puppet for the communists and enemy to all real Catholics.  

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #73 on: July 03, 2020, 08:49:14 PM »
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    So, you're saying the Church doesn't have the power to change abstinence from meat on Good Friday?
    Ive always heard the Good Friday fast was of Divine origin, much like the Lenten fast, while coming from Christ’s fast in the desert, was also a continuation of a fast from the Old Law.
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    Can the Church/pope get rid of this fast?  I have no idea.  But I’d have thought the Modernists would’ve done so by now, if they were able.  

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #74 on: July 04, 2020, 12:41:14 AM »
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  • "We wish also to make amends for the insults to which Your Vicar on earth and Your Priests are everywhere subjected [above all by schismatic sedevacantists - Nishant Xavier], for the profanation, by conscious neglect or Terrible Acts of Sacrilege, of the very Sacrament of Your Divine Love; and lastly for the Public Crimes of Nations who resist the Rights and The Teaching Authority of the Church which You have founded." - Act of Reparation to the Sacred Heart of Lord Jesus.