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Offline Ballistol

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Re: Sitting out the election?
« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2020, 12:07:30 PM »
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  • But the consequences of said election will still affect you.  “Sitting out” is an ignoring of reality. 

    No, it's accepting reality. People are responsible for their own well being and security. You can't rely on anyone in government, especially those who lick the boots of Antichrist Jews.

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #46 on: July 03, 2020, 12:11:45 PM »
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    Eating meat on Good Friday is also human law, based loosely on the divine law that we must periodically do penance.
    It’s not based loosely, it’s of Tradition that the Apostles started this penance due to Christ’s death, but it’s also a continuation of the Old Law, as Christ’s sacrifice was a replacement of the Passover, which also had Divine Laws regarding fasting.  As Christ said “I came not to destroy but to fulfill”.  The new law is the same as the old law, but better.  If there was fasting in the old law (by Divine command) to commemorate the Pasch, so there is fasting in the new to commemorate Calvary, the new Pasch. 


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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #47 on: July 03, 2020, 12:16:00 PM »
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  • Trump's top officials and advisors are Jew Trotskyites who wear the "Republican" label. The Republican party has a long history of Trotskyism.

    "By their fruits you will know them"

    Here's one that many trads don't know about. His name is Larry Kudlow. He's a Jew with ties to leftist, subversive movements in the 1960s and 1970s. He's a cocaine addict and alcoholic, and he "converted" to "Catholicism" later in life. He has ties to Opus Dei.

    Trump appointed this worm as Director of the U.S. Economic Council.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Kudlow#Personal_life

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #48 on: July 03, 2020, 12:16:52 PM »
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    You can't rely on anyone in government
    But the govt will affect you in many ways, by force, as you already know.  If you think the last 4 years of Trump would’ve been the same as 4 years of Clinton, then I’ve got some beach property in Alaska to sell you...

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #49 on: July 03, 2020, 12:42:02 PM »
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  • But the govt will affect you in many ways, by force, as you already know.  If you think the last 4 years of Trump would’ve been the same as 4 years of Clinton, then I’ve got some beach property in Alaska to sell you...

    It would be different because the armed "patriots" (not the low IQ monkeys running through the streets the past 6 weeks) would have revolted against the banks and government institutions if Hillary was president and the exact same despotism and dystopia had transpired (COVID lockdown, unemployment spike, and small business crash). That's why Trump was selected (not elected) into office. To pacify patriots (the real threat to the "Deep State") into trusting a man who is not really on their side. They're so stupid, they still think they have an ally in the White House. You better wake up and smell the coffee.


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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #50 on: July 03, 2020, 12:42:27 PM »
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  • Also from a link Xavier provided above:

    When unworthy candidates are running for office, ordinarily a citizen does not have the obligation for voting for them. Indeed he would not be permitted to vote for them if there were any reasonable way of electing a worthy man, either by organizing another party, by using the “write in” method, or by any other lawful means. On the other hand, it would be licit to vote for an unworthy man if the choice were only between or among unworthy candidates; and it might even be necessary to vote for such an unworthy candidate (if the voting were limited to such personalities) and even for one who would render harm to the Church, provided the election were only a choice from among unworthy men and the voting for the less unworthy would prevent the election of another more unworthy.

    http://www.catholicapologetics.info/morality/general/voting.htm

    Note that there is no "obligation".  It may be "licit" or "necessary" to vote for an unworthy man, but there is no "moral obligation". I find it interesting that this link mentions a section where there are "conditions that may relieve one of the obligation to vote", but it doesn't seem to include the text for it.


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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #51 on: July 03, 2020, 12:57:38 PM »
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  • Claudel sums up well the Catholic teaching on this matter:

    "A Catholic is never obliged to vote for a candidate who expresses overt support for an objectively immoral or evil practice. It is permissible, however, to vote for such a candidate if it seems to the Catholic that doing so will produce less harm than (1) voting for a different candidate or (2) not voting at all."

    https://www.cathinfo.com/politics-and-world-leaders/voting-4-pro-sodom-politcians/msg704087

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #52 on: July 03, 2020, 12:58:43 PM »
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  • It's a no-brainer.  The enemies that want us to become a totalitarian communist state are right at our gates.  Trump is obviously not a perfect man, but he is not an enemy to Catholics, he likes Catholics, and as a non-Catholic, he's about as good as we are going to get in the present situation.   

    If Trump loses, we may over time lose our rights to homeschool our children, to refuse vaccines, to own a gun, etc.  The commies that are trying to wrestle control of our country don't think your kids are your kids, that they are part of the "village."   


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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #53 on: July 03, 2020, 01:06:01 PM »
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  • If Trump loses, we may over time lose our rights to homeschool our children, to refuse vaccines, to own a gun, etc.  The commies that are trying to wrestle control of our country don't think your kids are your kids, that they are part of the "village."   

    Talking to you people is like talking to a brick wall. The only person who is going to allow you to refuse vaccines and keep your gun and children is YOU ... by being armed and prudently using your gun when the government thinks it can get away with violating your inalienable rights.

    Biden & Hillary are Stalinists. Trump is a Trotskyite. Pick your poison.

    Voting just continues the illusion. It just keeps you embedded in the lie.

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #54 on: July 03, 2020, 01:20:00 PM »
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  • Talking to you people is like talking to a brick wall. The only person who is going to allow you to refuse vaccines and keep your gun and children is YOU ... by being armed and prudently using your gun when the government thinks it can get away with violating your inalienable rights.

    Biden & Hillary are Stalinists. Trump is a Trotskyite. Pick your poison.

    Voting just continues the illusion. It just keeps you embedded in the lie.
    And when fathers of families stand up against the swat teams that show up, they end up holding their guns in hand, and soon after end up dead, leaving the wife as a widow and the children as orphans.  The commies still win, the children are taken and indoctrinated into the new system of the Antichrist.

    When the commies took over Russia, China, Cuba, Cambodia, etc.  ALL opposition was crushed, just like will happen here if they take over the government, and flip us from a Republic to Communism.  

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #55 on: July 03, 2020, 02:16:41 PM »
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  • I lost my country and everything we owned to the communists. I've known about the NWO since I could understand these things at about 14 years old, it is all that was discussed in our home by my parents, relatives and their friends till they died.  I am now in my late 60's and it is what I discuss with my children. One tends to be that way when they have been directly affected by the loss of EVERYTHING.

    I am going out and voting for Trump because there is no other choice. I have not seen a choice for president like him since Ronald Reagan. They are about the same. I doubt that this side of the consecration of Russia, that we will see a better candidate.

    An old Spanish saying : "If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a bicycle".

    Don't expect anyone better than Trump and Reagan this side of the Fatima consecrations. He is going to need your vote.

    God Bless


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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #56 on: July 03, 2020, 02:31:13 PM »
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  • And when fathers of families stand up against the swat teams that show up, they end up holding their guns in hand, and soon after end up dead, leaving the wife as a widow and the children as orphans.  The commies still win, the children are taken and indoctrinated into the new system of the Antichrist.
    That's not how you deal with tyranny. You just don't sit there and wait for them to show up to your front door. When they show up at your house, you've already lost. You've proven you don't know anything.


    When the commies took over Russia, China, Cuba, Cambodia, etc.  ALL opposition was crushed, just like will happen here if they take over the government, and flip us from a Republic to Communism.
    That's because the population was disarmed and they sat on their butts until the commies showed up at their houses. Learn to think.


    I lost my country and everything we owned to the communists.
    That's because your Boomer generation, and their parents' generation, handed our nation and Church over to the commie Jews.


    I have not seen a choice for president like him [Trump] since Ronald Reagan.
    Reagan increased the national debt and prison industrial complex (stemming from the fake war on drugs) more than any president before him. He also appointed liberal Supreme Court justices to the bench. They ruled in favor of infanticide.

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #57 on: July 03, 2020, 03:39:09 PM »
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  • How ironic he landed this, but somehow changed his tune.  
    Fact check:
    Even the Trump-haters at Snopes call this FALSE.
    The below-reproduced image and quote attributed to Donald Trump began appearing in our inbox in mid-October 2015. The format is easily recognizable as one wherein questionable or offensive words are attributed to the individual pictured, and in this case image claims that Donald Trump made the following statement in a 1998 interview with People magazine: 

     
    Despite People‘s comprehensive online content archive, we found no interview or profile on Donald Trump in 1998 (or any other time) that quoted his saying anything that even vaguely resembled the words in this meme. Trump appeared somewhat regularly in the magazine’s pages before he came to star on The Apprentice, but the bulk of the magazine’s celebrity-driven coverage of him back then centered on his marriages to, and divorces from, Ivana Trump and Marla Maples.
    Trump’s political endeavors (or the absence of them) did rate some space on the magazine’s pages, though. For example, a December 1987 profile titled “Too Darn Rich” chronicled Trump’s later claims that he had been courted by both Democrats and Republicans:
    Pray for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #58 on: July 03, 2020, 04:02:57 PM »
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  • Bottom line: "By their fruits you will know them"

    Trump's fruits:

    Trump lied. He never went after Hillary after promising he would, hence, there is no rule of law, further hence, we're not a free country.

    Trump appoints supporters of the Sin of Sodom and adversaries to biological reality to the Supreme Court. Trump appointed Gorsuch.

    Trump overtly supports sodomites and "trans" agenda.

    Trump appoints Jew Trotskyites to administration and cabinet.

    Trump appoints and maintains Fauci as head of the plandemic response task force, despite Fauci contributing to hybrid coronavirus research at the Wuhan Lab in 2014/15 after a moratorium was placed in the on same dangerous research in the U.S.

    Trump locks down the USA over an engineered crisis that's not any more a public health threat than the seasonal flu.

    Trump does nothing to ensure Epstein remains safe in jail in order to face justice and, thus, bring down Trump's ostensible enemies who were, also, clients of Epstein's pedophile ring. The most high profile criminal in the world and Trump's golden egg to bring down the "Deep State" (Jєωιѕн Global Mafia), and Trump doesn't order federal marshals to guard him 24/7. Very suspicious, indeed.

    Trump has done nothing for 9/11 truth. In fact, he recently pardoned a 9/11 insider with direct ties to Israel. The former NYC police chief during 9/11.

    Trump has done nothing to revoke the "Patriot" Act and the Surveillance Industrial Complex, nor dismantle TSA. Trump supports all of it.

    Trump is a chickenhawk (bombed Syria over a pretext).

    Trump supports red flag laws.

    Trump does nothing tangible to protect the 1st Amendment. Censorship against trads and the right still rampant on social media.

    The wall? What wall? lol

    The USMCA is as bad as NAFTA.

    The list goes on and on....

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    Re: Sitting out the election?
    « Reply #59 on: July 03, 2020, 04:08:39 PM »
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    You just don't sit there and wait for them to show up to your front door.
    Says the guy who’s going to “sit out” this election.  ? ? ?