If you are looking at girl, but you think she wears too much makeup, casually say what you like, if she adjusts, then maybe see if she is worth dating (courting, I don't know what people want to call it.)  If she doesn't, move on to someone else.

Yeah, just because someone has it on ... who knows what her motivation was?  Perhaps she just thought she needed to put it on so as not to be ignored, but in reality hated having to wear it.  That's the kind of thing to be careful about judging.  You might end up ruling out someone who would have made a terrific wife, due to some snap mistaken judgment.

It should be obvious that ballet is immodest from the clothes they wear to the movements they make. Any man can ask themselves if they think it's okay if their wife did that and allowed other men to watch. Same with ballroom dancing, the close proximity and touching is not okay. Really think about whether or not you would like your husband being close around other woman and holding them (as the dance requires) or if you doing so would make your own husband jealous.

I have never met any Catholic who objects to ballet. In fact it’s considered very high class in some Latin Mass circles in England to attend the ballet and opera. Public dances have historically been social occasions and perfectly acceptable to dance with other people…Celidh dances in particular often happen in Catholic parishes. Of course anyone looking to be unfaithful to their spouse can use this to their advantage, but those people will use anything to their advantage if they have that in mind…If dancing is an occasion of sin for you, of course avoid it, but that is not the case for most people.

It's quite interesting to me that in many species around the world the male and not the female is the beautiful one. 

It's quite interesting to me that in many species around the world the male and not the female is the beautiful one.

Yes that an interesting. I can’t access your link as I’m in the UK. Keir Starmer probably thinks it’s offensive or something 😆 Talking about animals and completely off the point of the thread, but not only are some male animals more attractive than the female (pheasants for example) but in some species the female is physically stronger than the male and prone to kill the male after mating. Preying Mantises are one example of this. 

"Do you wish to adorn your face? Do not do so with gems but with piety and modesty; thus adorned, a man will find your appearance more pleasing to behold. For that other kind of adornment generally arouses suspicions which give rise to jealousy, enmity, strife, and quarrels. For there is nothing more disgusting than a suspiciously beautiful face. But the adornment which comes from almsgiving and modesty drives out all wicked suspicion and draws your husband to you with greater strength than any chain. For natural beauty does not make a face become beautiful as much as does the disposition of him who beholds it, and nothing is more likely to produce this disposition than modesty and piety. Hence, even if a woman be beautiful but her husband hates her, she will appear to him as the ugliest of women; if a woman does not happen to be comely but she pleases her husband, he will find her the fairest of women. Judgments are made not in the light of the nature of what is seen but in the light of the disposition of those who see it.

"Adorn your face, therefore, with modesty, piety, almsgiving, benevolence, love, kindliness towards your husband, reasonableness, mildness, and forbearance. These are the pigments of virtue; by these you draw not men but angels to you as your lovers; for these you have God Himself to praise you. When God shall approve of you, He will win over your husband to you in every way; for if wisdom illumines the face of man, much more does virtue make the face of a woman shine forth."

- St John Chrysostom


St. John Chrysostom about this, from “Baptismal Instruction No. 1” (§37):

“For what are you trying to do, woman? By using rouge [cosmetic cream] and eye shadow you cannot add to your natural beauty nor change your natural ugliness, can you? These add nothing to your beauty of face, but they will destroy the beauty of your soul. For this meddling with nature testifies to your interior weakness. Especially are you heaping up abundant fire for yourself by exciting the looks of young men, and attracting to yourself the eyes of the undisciplined; by making complete adulterers of them, you are bringing their downfall onto your own head.

It is fitting and helpful to abstain from this practice entirely.

But if those women who are caught in the grip of this evil habit should be unwilling to give up the use of cosmetics, at least let them not use them when they are coming to the house of prayer.

Why, tell me, when you come to church, do you adorn yourself in this way? You have come to worship God and to make confession to Him in atonement for your sins. Does He look for this beauty? No. He seeks the beauty within, He looks for the activity which expresses itself in good deeds, He desires almsgiving, temperance, compunction, and strict faith.

But you have forsaken these virtues; you are trying to trip up many of the careless ones, even in church.

By what thunderbolts do such actions deserve to be punished? You arrive in port and you cause your own shipwreck. You come to the physician to have your wounds cured, and you go away after making them worse. What pardon will there be for you hereafter?

If some women were in the past so careless of their own salvation, now at least let them be persuaded to rid themselves of this outrageous practice. If the Apostle forbade the use of expensive clothing, much more would he forbid the use of cosmetics and eye shadow.”

How holy would be a chapel whose members were all physically ugly, stank of B.O., and never washed their clothes! 

I would be tempted to negative thoughts about such people. It would be disgusting and a huge distraction in mass.