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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: Sin to wear makeup?
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2025, 06:49:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Justinian on December 15, 2025, 06:32:18 PM
    Catholics don’t have any issues with women wearing make up or men wearing makeup if it’s for the stage or  performances. Puritans are the ones against make up and adornment. In fact centuries ago it was the fashion for men and women to wear very white make up and powdered wigs but I wouldn’t go for that look 😀 it’s only a problem if you’re obsessed with your appearance and vanity. I think this thread may have an element of rage bait about it 😉😉
    Lukewarm* Catholics. A few centuries ago was the evil 'enlightenment', I am not surprised seeing you make such a stupid and ignorant statement considering you think it's ok for your daughters to do ballet which is immodest and has immodest dress.

    It's amazing how fake trad feminists will immediately label Catholic doctrine as "puritan". The other thread linked in this one has many quotes from Saints, you would do well to read and obey them.
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    Re: Sin to wear makeup?
    « Reply #16 on: December 15, 2025, 06:54:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miseremini on December 14, 2025, 09:13:02 PM
    Is it a sin to wear makeup?  For males...absolutely!
    There's a big difference between concealer and makeup.
    Ladislaus will have to stop with the mascara then I guess.
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    Re: Sin to wear makeup?
    « Reply #17 on: Today at 11:54:10 AM »
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    • Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on December 14, 2025, 09:54:12 PM
    The Book of Enoch say devils taught women how to "paint" their faces.

    Indeed.

    It has been some years since I read anything about it, but I recall something about Enoch returning toward the end, so to speak.  If a legit scenario, perhaps the prophecy is actually about the Book of Enoch and what it teaches and not about the man himself...or maybe both.  It is a fact that the Book of Enoch is being noticed and discussed, etc., in a way that hasn't happened for a very, very long time.
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    Re: Sin to wear makeup?
    « Reply #18 on: Today at 12:36:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on December 15, 2025, 06:49:10 PM
    Lukewarm* Catholics. A few centuries ago was the evil 'enlightenment', I am not surprised seeing you make such a stupid and ignorant statement considering you think it's ok for your daughters to do ballet which is immodest and has immodest dress.

    It's amazing how fake trad feminists will immediately label Catholic doctrine as "puritan". The other thread linked in this one has many quotes from Saints, you would do well to read and obey them.
    I have noticed a minority of traditional Catholics become so extreme they actually become like puritanical Protestants. Your comment illustrates this. Ballet, ballroom dancing, the arts, fine art, make up, alcohol, literature on a wide range of subjects, theatre, beautiful costumes, parties, celebrations are ALL in keeping with Catholicism. 😀😀🌺🌺🎄💃💃💃
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    Re: Sin to wear makeup?
    « Reply #19 on: Today at 02:05:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: gladius_veritatis on Today at 11:54:10 AM
    Indeed.

    It has been some years since I read anything about it, but I recall something about Enoch returning toward the end, so to speak.  If a legit scenario, perhaps the prophecy is actually about the Book of Enoch and what it teaches and not about the man himself...or maybe both.  It is a fact that the Book of Enoch is being noticed and discussed, etc., in a way that hasn't happened for a very, very long time.
    Is there a particular English translation you would recommend?
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    Re: Sin to wear makeup?
    « Reply #20 on: Today at 02:30:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: gladius_veritatis on Today at 11:54:10 AM
    Indeed.

    It has been some years since I read anything about it, but I recall something about Enoch returning toward the end, so to speak.  If a legit scenario, perhaps the prophecy is actually about the Book of Enoch and what it teaches and not about the man himself...or maybe both.  It is a fact that the Book of Enoch is being noticed and discussed, etc., in a way that hasn't happened for a very, very long time.

    So, Enoch and Elijah are supposed to come back as the two "Witnessses" mentioned in Apocalypse because those two are not known to have died, where they had both been taken up to Heaven directly, awaiting their time to come back.

    But, yes, the Book of Enoch says that the fallen quasi-angelic / demonic nephilim entities taught women how to use makeup for seduction.  Again, the distinction there is ... makeup can be used lightly, to give a natural look, to cover up blemishes, in ways that fall FAR short of being seductive.  That and deception are generally cited as the moral considerations.  There's obviously nothing intrinsically evil about putting some substance on your face ... say if you wanted to put some lotion on dry skin you have on your face, or were putting make up to pay a part in a play, perhaps that of a clown, etc.  So even the "deception" generally requires an intent to withhold information or communicate wrong information to someone who has a right to know.  I can use deception to hide my identity on purpose, for legitimate reasons ... if I'm fleeing from unjust persecution, for instance.  Does an average person walking down the street or even someone in church ... have some right to see that some young lady has acne, or is it OK for her to cover that up.  That's "deception"?

    I think that some people struggle with differentiating between the notion that putting something on your face to change your appearance is intrinsically neutral, and that it all depends on the formal intent, the reasons for it.  Yeah, if some lady is a "2" and uses masterful makeup work to make herself appear to be a "9" (I hate those numbers, but just for the sake or argument), to get attention and/or even incite lust.  That's a problem.  Or to deceive some potential suitor.  But just to make youreself look more presentable where you still look natural (and not like a painted clown) ... I'm not really seeing a huge issue with that, nothing that has been argued wich would render it sinful IMO.
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    Re: Sin to wear makeup?
    « Reply #21 on: Today at 02:34:12 PM »
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    • Book of Enoch, BTW, is a borderline work.  Some Church Fathers considered it to be part of Sacred Scripture, and the Epistle of St. Jude appears to quote it directly.

    But, since the Church did not ultimately accept it as part of the Canon of Sacred Scripture, there's often a false dichotomy engaged where people conclude that it's fraudulent, some kind of fictional gnostic fabrication, like some things were.

    People need to keep in mind, however, that just because something is not INSPIRED by the Holy Ghost, this does not mean it cannot be authentic, real, and genuine.  It could in fact have been written even by Enoch himself, at least in substance ... just that he wasn't inspired when he wrote it.  I'm sure St. Paul wrote other stuff than what appears in the New Testament that wasn't inspired, and the mere fact that St. Paul wrote something doesn't make it inspired.  Inspiration is not some kind of habitual gift where once an author is inspired, everything that comes off his pen is written by the Holy Ghost.
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    Re: Sin to wear makeup?
    « Reply #22 on: Today at 02:40:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on Today at 02:34:12 PM
    Book of Enoch, BTW, is a borderline work.  Some Church Fathers considered it to be part of Sacred Scripture, and the Epistle of St. Jude appears to quote it directly.

    But, since the Church did not ultimately accept it as part of the Canon of Sacred Scripture, there's often a false dichotomy engaged where people conclude that it's fraudulent, some kind of fictional gnostic fabrication, like some things were.

    People need to keep in mind, however, that just because something is not INSPIRED by the Holy Ghost, this does not mean it cannot be authentic, real, and genuine.  It could in fact have been written even by Enoch himself, at least in substance ... just that he wasn't inspired when he wrote it.  I'm sure St. Paul wrote other stuff than what appears in the New Testament that wasn't inspired, and the mere fact that St. Paul wrote something doesn't make it inspired.  Inspiration is not some kind of habitual gift where once an author is inspired, everything that comes off his pen is written by the Holy Ghost.

    Right. The Shepard of Hermas is another (it was actually read as Scripture in some churches early on). 

    Just curious, what do you think about what Enoch (supposedly) says about the shape of the earth? It fits better with FE no?
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    Re: Sin to wear makeup?
    « Reply #23 on: Today at 03:26:24 PM »
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    • Before this new topic gets discussed, because it will probably be very interesting, is it possible to start a new thread on the book of Enoch and FE. :cowboy:
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    Re: Sin to wear makeup?
    « Reply #24 on: Today at 03:58:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Justinian on Today at 12:36:03 PM
    I have noticed a minority of traditional Catholics become so extreme they actually become like puritanical Protestants. Your comment illustrates this. Ballet, ballroom dancing, the arts, fine art, make up, alcohol, literature on a wide range of subjects, theatre, beautiful costumes, parties, celebrations are ALL in keeping with Catholicism. 😀😀🌺🌺🎄💃💃💃
    You are a modernist.

    Ballet is immodest, ballroom dancing is immodest, most modern arts are gαy and jeiwsh. Makeup isn't good for the skin and most people overuse it,. alcohol is mostly misused nowadays, most modern literature is satantic garbage, St Alphonsus says to never let your children wear masks, most modern parties and celebrations are debauched with sinful behaviour.

    But anyone who puts out the corruption of the modern world is Puritan. Get your head out of your ass.
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    Re: Sin to wear makeup?
    « Reply #25 on: Today at 04:24:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on Today at 03:58:47 PM
    You are a modernist.

    Ballet is immodest, ballroom dancing is immodest, most modern arts are gαy and jeiwsh. Makeup isn't good for the skin and most people overuse it,. alcohol is mostly misused nowadays, most modern literature is satantic garbage, St Alphonsus says to never let your children wear masks, most modern parties and celebrations are debauched with sinful behaviour.

    But anyone who puts out the corruption of the modern world is Puritan. Get your head out of your ass.
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    Re: Sin to wear makeup?
    « Reply #26 on: Today at 04:37:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on Today at 03:26:24 PM
    Before this new topic gets discussed, because it will probably be very interesting, is it possible to start a new thread on the book of Enoch and FE. :cowboy:
    I would be really interested in learning more about the Book of Enoch. I believe it’s not included in the books of the Bibke approved by the Catholic Church but that doesn’t mean it isn’t important.
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    Re: Sin to wear makeup?
    « Reply #27 on: Today at 04:43:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on Today at 03:58:47 PM
    You are a modernist.

    Ballet is immodest, ballroom dancing is immodest, most modern arts are gαy and jeiwsh. Makeup isn't good for the skin and most people overuse it,. alcohol is mostly misused nowadays, most modern literature is satantic garbage, St Alphonsus says to never let your children wear masks, most modern parties and celebrations are debauched with sinful behaviour.

    But anyone who puts out the corruption of the modern world is Puritan. Get your head out of your ass.
    Absolutely no traditional Catholic (including priests) I’ve ever met have an issue with dancing, literature, art, alcohol… obviously sins can be committed involving all these things  eg alcohol in excess but in themselves they’re not sinful. I do agree with you about masks… we avoided them during the Covid shenanigans. Unnecessary dirty rags and won’t stop the spread of any viruses.
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    Re: Sin to wear makeup?
    « Reply #28 on: Today at 04:51:43 PM »
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    • My thoughts on this topic.

    (In regards to women)
    If your dad lets you wear makeup, or your husband likes you in makeup, then wear makeup.

    If your dad says no to make up, or your husband says no to makeup, then don't wear makeup.

    If you have no one, then ask a spiritual director.

    If they do not care, then do what is modest.

    (In regards to men trying to find some women)

    If you are looking at girl, but you think she wears too much makeup, casually say what you like, if she adjusts, then maybe see if she is worth dating (courting, I don't know what people want to call it.)  If she doesn't, move on to someone else.

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    Re: Sin to wear makeup?
    « Reply #29 on: Today at 05:17:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on Today at 04:51:43 PM
    My thoughts on this topic.

    (In regards to women)
    If your dad lets you wear makeup, or your husband likes you in makeup, then wear makeup.

    If your dad says no to make up, or your husband says no to makeup, then don't wear makeup.

    If you have no one, then ask a spiritual director.

    If they do not care, then do what is modest.

    (In regards to men trying to find some women)

    If you are looking at girl, but you think she wears too much makeup, casually say what you like, if she adjusts, then maybe see if she is worth dating (courting, I don't know what people want to call it.)  If she doesn't, move on to someone else.
    That sounds like wise advice. If you move in to a new house you might do a luck of paint on a few walls, you’ll want to make sure your clothes aren’t getting raggedy, you’ll want to keep clean and wear perfume or aftershave, I see make up as being like this. Some women cake it on and some brands contain toxic chemicals, there are more natural brands. It’s not a sin though, unless you’re obsessed with vanity. 
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