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Offline Matthew

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Sin of the day: Inciting others to anger
« on: December 12, 2009, 08:58:52 AM »
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  • As we all know, there is more than one way to fall into sin.

    Even for a particular sin.

    You can actually COMMIT that sin yourself, or you can advise or encourage someone else to do so.

    So let's take anger for an example.

    Does everyone realize that inciting someone else to anger is a sin? Because you don't know what they'll do when they're angry -- they might sin. Stoking the passions of another person for no good reason is being the opposite of a "peacemaker", and is sinful.

    Therefore, being a "button-pusher", a teaser, troll, etc. on a forum would also be sinful. You're inciting HUMAN BEINGS to anger. As a far-from-perfect men said in the past,
    "There are actual human beings behind the screen names. The screen names on here aren't items of artificial intelligence. This isn't a video game."

    I think we all need to keep this in mind. Each screen name you read on here represents a real, living, breathing person. Someone God created for the sole purpose of loving and glorifying Him forever in Heaven. An immortal soul for whom Christ shed His Blood and died on the cross.

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    Offline Tedeum

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    Sin of the day: Inciting others to anger
    « Reply #1 on: December 13, 2009, 11:38:12 PM »
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  • The way I look at it... if somebody says something that I can't kindly respond to... it is best not to respond.

    If you have a weakness to anger, this is an important lesson to learn. You can't just rely on everyone not triggering you to anger. You must learn to control your anger and force yourself to think kindly of other people. Be charitable.

    Or at the least shrug off the trolls as people who probably don't (a) have a life or (b) know any better, or (c) they are just nudging you and reminding you to lighten up.  

    About here the most important thing I had to learn re/forums - it isn't personal unless you view it that way. And this could be God's way of teaching you humility. <- Definitely that was a difficult lesson for me to learn when I used to get into these arguments all the time with these unreasonable people who refused to back down and let me win the argument because I was right and they were wrong. It took me ages to realize it didn't matter anyway.  :turban:


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    Sin of the day: Inciting others to anger
    « Reply #2 on: December 13, 2009, 11:58:03 PM »
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  • I should say though - I have encountered people on other forums who deliberately say things because they intend to hurt and draw people into arguments.

    I know how they can make a forum uncomfortable or too vexing to linger in. Not because people (like me) were drawn into arguments, but because it seemed like every thread was a continuation of the same argument.

    At which point I do agree, people should try to imagine they are talking face to face with the other person, with children, priests, and nice little old ladies possibly listening in to the conversation.

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    Sin of the day: Inciting others to anger
    « Reply #3 on: December 14, 2009, 12:33:11 AM »
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  • Quote from: Tedeum
    people should try to imagine they are talking face to face with the other person, with children, priests, and nice little old ladies possibly listening in to the conversation.


    Pretty good advice, for the most part.

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    Sin of the day: Inciting others to anger
    « Reply #4 on: December 14, 2009, 06:19:36 AM »
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  • What about playful teasing?


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    Sin of the day: Inciting others to anger
    « Reply #5 on: December 14, 2009, 07:43:36 PM »
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  • Does telling the truth constitute inciting to anger?
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    Sin of the day: Inciting others to anger
    « Reply #6 on: December 14, 2009, 11:03:02 PM »
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  • Quote from: roscoe
    Does telling the truth constitute inciting to anger?


    It all depends, roscoe. I'm from the Midwest, lived for many years in Latin America, and now reside in the South. These three places all have at least one thing in common:  in general, their inhabitants try to avoid conflicts, especially in spoken conversations. Have you ever heard of "Minnesota Nice," or "Southern Hospitality?" Those stereotypes are well-founded in the fact that those of us from those areas generally try to be tactful when informing others of their faults, which we do only from necessity. We tend to overlook and "let slide" others' shortcomings whenever possible, in the interest of preserving the peace. I have noticed that some (not all) people from some (not all) other areas of the country tend to be more blunt and aggressive in their speech. They like to "call a spade a spade" as they say and often mask what to me would be rude or tactless comments by saying, "I was only telling him the truth! What, is telling the truth against the law these days?" To me, there is a certain amount of facetiousness in those words. Those people usually know darn well that they're being offensive but they like to cover it with the "well, somebody has to tell the truth around here" routine.

    I think that how you say something is just as important as what you say. Anyone who has ever been in the hands of a tactless teacher, doctor, confessor, etc. knows what I mean.
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    Sin of the day: Inciting others to anger
    « Reply #7 on: December 16, 2009, 10:59:59 AM »
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  • What happens if you are telling the TRUTH, and backing it
    up with the TEACHINGS of the CHURCH. You can be polite.
    Today, some many people believe in lies because of the
    influences of the mass media, and false teachers. The
    TRUTH is going to hurt. Many people have biases in
    attempting to know the TRUTH. And the law, and
    political correctness protects them. People whom
    attempted to tell the truth are silence, and branded
    as intolerant, and bigoted. Most of the persecution is by
    novus ordo conservatives, that believes that the
    teachings of the post concilor church is infallible.


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    Sin of the day: Inciting others to anger
    « Reply #8 on: December 16, 2009, 11:28:18 AM »
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  • I don't think saying something that just happens to make another person angry is the same as "inciting to anger".

    In any dispute, one party might eventually say "I don't agree, so let's just drop it."  Now, if I were to persist beyond that point, then I think I would be committing the sin  of "inciting to anger", also the same as if my only reason for raising a discussion is private knowledge that one of the parties is likely to become especially angry.

    As far as convincing another of truth, that is not for us to do. Once we have said something, we can only pray about it because it is the work of the Holy Spirit to see what kind of soil the seeds have landed on.


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    Sin of the day: Inciting others to anger
    « Reply #9 on: January 18, 2010, 11:30:05 AM »
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  • This is an excellent thread!

    It is funny how things may start off as a game and end up deadly serious.

    The trouble with these forums (should it be "fora"?) is that the anonimity does make it feel like other people are unreal! If we could only have an insight into other people´s lives.

    I have been guilty of the most horrible rudeness to people here. Which is why I withdrew! Now I am more careful. The good thing is that it has made me more aware. It is so easy to give offence and be nasty! So very easy to become self-righteous and full of horrible pride.

    Teasing is, to me, a disguised form of cruelty and arrogance. It can become a real cause of suffering.

    If you want to know about the seriousness of what we may think of as even mild forms of sin, please read this book:

    Hungry Souls - Supernatural visits, messages, and warnings from purgatory
    by Gerard J.M. Van den Aardweg.


    This shocked and moved me profoundly!

    There is no sin so small that we will not have to pay for it.

    Please pray daily for the poor souls in purgatory!!!!

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    Sin of the day: Inciting others to anger
    « Reply #10 on: January 20, 2010, 12:49:52 AM »
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  • The NO Mass incites me to anger, so are NO Priests sinning? Bishops too!

     


     

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