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Offline Disputaciones

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« on: January 16, 2016, 10:02:52 PM »
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    • Does anyone know if in the 60's, anyone in the Church ever said anything negative about them?
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    « Reply #1 on: January 17, 2016, 03:48:06 AM »
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    • Did the Church ever comment one way or the other about any pop stars then?
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    « Reply #2 on: January 17, 2016, 04:03:50 AM »
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    « Reply #3 on: January 17, 2016, 04:40:31 AM »
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    • Why do you ask, Disputaciones?
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    « Reply #4 on: January 17, 2016, 08:50:28 AM »
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    Does anyone know if in the 60's, anyone in the Church ever said anything negative about them?


    Both are NYC/NJ East Coast Jєωs. Their hit "The Boxer" had relativistic, very sinful lyrics in it, that no Catholic prelate could ever approve of.  
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    « Reply #5 on: January 17, 2016, 10:38:40 AM »
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    Did the Church ever comment one way or the other about any pop stars then?


    That's what I want to know.
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    « Reply #6 on: January 17, 2016, 10:43:43 AM »
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    Why do you ask, Disputaciones?


    To know if such things were seen as acceptable or if they were rejected.
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    « Reply #7 on: January 17, 2016, 11:37:05 AM »
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    To know if such things were seen as acceptable or if they were rejected.


    The Church's teachings are changeless as you know. So in that sense She condemned in the 60's & 70's any type of irreligious or indecent music during that era.

    Montini, on the other hand, publicly castigated the Catholic Church (his sworn enemy) for not embracing the world and its false maxims.

    It was reported in a well-known book by Piers Compton that the Jєω Montini was a principal shareholder of a chain of brothels in Rome.

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    « Reply #8 on: January 17, 2016, 11:56:42 AM »
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    The Church's teachings are changeless as you know.


    The Vatican recently praised the pop singer David Bowie upon the occasion of his death from cancer.  So, if you're a Conciliar Catholic and you know that David Bowie was in no way objectionable to your Church, then you can expect the same praise from your Church for Paul Simon and Arthur Garfunkel.  

    To my knowledge, the Catholic Church has never made any comments about these pop stars either individually or as a duo, but it would not surprise me if comments have been made.
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    « Reply #9 on: January 17, 2016, 12:36:08 PM »
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    • "I do not believe that there has ever existed a [form of] rock that is diabolical." -"Bishop" Fernando Charrier


    (Phony) Vatican Takes a Walk on the Wild Side

    The Guardian
    Rory Carroll in Rome
    April 29, 2000

    The Vatican has announced that rock music is not diabolical on the eve of a May Day concert headlined by Pope John Paul II and the embodiment of sex, drugs and walking on the wild side, Lou Reed. Signalling detente after decades of mutual loathing, the Vatican will on Monday allow a papal Mass in Rome to mutate into a rock concert.

    More than 600,000 people are expected to watch the Pope celebrate a highlight of his jubilee, or holy year, before giving way to rockers not known for Christian family values. The line-up of Reed, Alanis Morissette and the Eurythmics was agreed by the 79-year-old pontiff... . The show was going ahead on the understanding that it would convey a religious message, said a Vatican spokesman.

    Commentators in Italy hailed the collaboration, dedicated to workers and cancelling third world debt, as a marriage. Fernando Charrier, the bishop in charge of the Vatican's May Day celebrations, was more prosaic. "Do not be astonished. Rock is an expression of today's world, particularly dear to the young. All [forms of] human expressions, when they have dignity, command respect. I do not believe that there has ever existed a [form of] rock that is diabolical. ...

    Lou Reed, the 58-year-old founder of Velvet Underground, once said that he used heroin, cocaine, LSD, amphetamines and cannabis just to attain equilibrium. "Certain drugs don't even get you high, they just get you normal."

    Walk on the Wild Side, his 1970s hit, is about a risk-taking transvestite. ... The selection of Alanis Morissette, who contributed to the Church-baiting film Dogma, has also been greeted with surprise. ...

    It will be the Pope's first brush with rock's hard edge, but he is far from a pop innocent. A dance single mixed with some of his soundbites reached the top 10 in several European countries last year.

    Bob Dylan sang for him at a concert in Bologna three years ago and BB King has presented him with a guitar. The leader of the world's 1bn Catholics was pronounced funky and presented with sunglasses by Bono of U2. The Vatican staged a pop concert with Italian performers in St Peter's square on millennium eve....

    Italian television and city authorities are helping with the Monday's logistics. A giant cross will loom over a stage with screens and speakers, surrounded by the campus of Rome university.

    The concert is one of the highlights of the jubilee, a 12-month series of commemorations and prayer which the Vatican holds every 25 years.

    This year is the biggest yet and many of the audience are expected to be pilgrims. Surrounded by 600 priests, the ailing pontiff will start the Mass at 10.30am local time. He will pay tribute to workers and plead for debt relief. ...

    The Israeli singer Noa will sing Life is Beautiful, the theme from the h0Ɩ0cαųst-film of the same title, after which the Pope is expected to return to the Vatican, at 2pm. ... As night falls it will be the turn of Morissette, Annie Lennox and Dave Stewart of the Eurythmics and Lou Reed. Video clips are expected to screen greetings from Paul McCartney, Paul Simon and the family of Jimi Hendrix. ...
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    « Reply #10 on: January 17, 2016, 02:20:37 PM »
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    To know if such things were seen as acceptable or if they were rejected.


    What do you mean by such things? I was a listener to S&G but I did not see anything wrong.
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    « Reply #11 on: January 17, 2016, 02:22:20 PM »
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    • "I do not believe that there has ever existed a [form of] rock that is diabolical." -"Bishop" Fernando Charrier

    What seminary did Bishop Charrier attend before he was ordained a Priest
    in the new dubious rite?
     

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    « Reply #12 on: January 17, 2016, 02:26:24 PM »
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    "I do not believe that there has ever existed a [form of] rock that is diabolical." -"Bishop" Fernando Charrier

    What seminary did Bishop Charrier attend before he was ordained a Priest
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    Not sure. He was validly ordained a priest. The New Montinian (Anglican) Rite of Consecration is invalid though.
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    « Reply #13 on: January 17, 2016, 04:07:34 PM »
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    • I have listened to S&G in the past, and sometimes even nowdays and I don't think there's anything particularly scandalous/blaspheme about their songs.
    At least the more well known ones.

    They don't seem to be promoting fornication unlike many pop/rock classics from the same era, or even the 50s.
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    « Reply #14 on: January 17, 2016, 04:38:54 PM »
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    I have listened to S&G in the past, and sometimes even nowdays and I don't think there's anything particularly scandalous/blaspheme about their songs.
    At least the more well known ones.

    They don't seem to be promoting fornication unlike many pop/rock classics from the same era, or even the 50s.


    In "The Boxer", one of their bigest hits, they sing about frequenting a prostitute.


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