[AMDGJMJ]

I have known several young traditional Catholic men and women who have had trouble meeting eligible people to enter into a courtship with at their chapels...

One person I know asked about whether there was any trustworthy traditional Catholic courting site I could recommend and was curious if Matthew might consider having a courting-subforum here if there was enough interest.

[ServusInutilisDomini]

Only makes sense if it becomes big, right? Surely it is highly impractical for people to court hundreds of miles apart.

Also, how would they interact on the forum? Make a post about themselves? If it becomes big, how would people filter by age, location, beliefs, etc. on a forum?

There are plenty of catholic dating sites for those interested I'm sure, the real problem is likely the quality of the people desperate enough to make a dating profile, not the site. A new site won't fix the problem.

[josefamenendez]

 I think it might change the character of the forum and undermine it's original intent. There are forums for dating already in place.

[Philothea3]

Only makes sense if it becomes big, right? Surely it is highly impractical for people to court hundreds of miles apart.

Also, how would they interact on the forum? Make a post about themselves? If it becomes big, how would people filter by age, location, beliefs, etc. on a forum?

There are plenty of catholic dating sites for those interested I'm sure, the real problem is likely the quality of the people desperate enough to make a dating profile, not the site. A new site won't fix the problem.

There are no catholic dating sites for trads only, most of the time people can't find anyone on those sites that would even go to a TLM. Also I don't think it's impractical for people to court from different locations. I have friends that got married to people they met online in another country. And most users here are from the US I assumed so it wouldn't be a problem either way.

[ServusInutilisDomini]

There are no catholic dating sites for trads only, most of the time people can't find anyone on those sites that would even go to a TLM. Also I don't think it's impractical for people to court from different locations. I have friends that got married to people they met online in another country. And most users here are from the US I assumed so it wouldn't be a problem either way.

OK, still, a website is much more practical.

Also a point to consider, I wouldn't want pictures of attractive women readily available on the site.

St. Alphonsus Liguori, Mortification of the Eyes: “But I do not see how looks at young persons of a different sex can be excused from the guilt of a venial fault, or even from mortal sin, when there is proximate danger of criminal consent. "It is not lawful," says [Pope] St. Gregory, "to behold what it is not lawful to covet." The evil thought which proceeds from looks, though it should be rejected, never fails to leave a stain upon the soul.” (The True Spouse of Jesus Christ, p. 221)

[hansel]

There are no catholic dating sites for trads only, most of the time people can't find anyone on those sites that would even go to a TLM. Also I don't think it's impractical for people to court from different locations. I have friends that got married to people they met online in another country. And most users here are from the US I assumed so it wouldn't be a problem either way.

I fully agree with this; available Catholic dating sites practically never have anyone seriously interested in the TLM, even if there is a "latin mass" search filter.  In the rare event that someone does attend the Latin mass on those sites, 95% of the time they subscribe to Vatican II theology, are moderate or liberal politically, and also attend diocesan Novus Ordo in addition to the "extraordinary form" as they call it. 

There used to be "SSPX singles" and "Sedvecantist singles" dating sites, but those have since been taken down. 

The hard truth is that there are many young Catholic singles in their 20's and 30's, who are seeking marriage with good intentions, but simply cannot find anyone purely due to chapel demographics (not many other young people in a given chapel), and geographical location (small chapels scattered far and wide across the country, sometimes in remote rural areas). Long-distance dating, while it has its challenges, is often the only option to get to know people, unless you have the resources for endless travel or staying long-term in a larger Trad community. 

There's got to be a way to solve this problem and bring together traditional-minded people who seriously want to pursue Catholic marriage. Yes, dedicated TLM dating websites (or better yet, more opportunities to meet people in person such as appropriately supervised YAGs, collaborative celebrations of feast days between different chapels etc.) would probably be the best options. However, there doesn't appear to be any sign of a TLM dating website or other YAG-type events being organized in the future. it can take a lot of of time and energy to get these started, and if it is an in-person event you need the money and space to make it happen. So, until someone finally has the ability to start one of these options from scratch, perhaps a properly regulated online forum or subforum would still be better than nothing.   

[AMDGJMJ]

Only makes sense if it becomes big, right? Surely it is highly impractical for people to court hundreds of miles apart.

Also, how would they interact on the forum? Make a post about themselves? If it becomes big, how would people filter by age, location, beliefs, etc. on a forum?

There are plenty of catholic dating sites for those interested I'm sure, the real problem is likely the quality of the people desperate enough to make a dating profile, not the site. A new site won't fix the problem.

The idea is that it would give an option for people to communicate who literally have no one at their chapel to consider a courtship with.  Nothing formal but an opportunity to help until there is something better out there.

I don't think personal pictures should ever be allowed to be posted on the forum for it. 

If people find they have similar beliefs and are similar enough in personal preferences and age they can privately message each other and give each other their email addresses.

It would also give a good spot for young people to be instructed by the older members as to what they should work on to make themselves more "marriageable".

[epiphany]

I fully agree with this; available Catholic dating sites practically never have anyone seriously interested in the TLM, even if there is a "latin mass" search filter.  In the rare event that someone does attend the Latin mass on those sites, 95% of the time they subscribe to Vatican II theology, are moderate or liberal politically, and also attend diocesan Novus Ordo in addition to the "extraordinary form" as they call it.

There used to be "SSPX singles" and "Sedvecantist singles" dating sites, but those have since been taken down.

The hard truth is that there are many young Catholic singles in their 20's and 30's, who are seeking marriage with good intentions, but simply cannot find anyone purely due to chapel demographics (not many other young people in a given chapel), and geographical location (small chapels scattered far and wide across the country, sometimes in remote rural areas). Long-distance dating, while it has its challenges, is often the only option to get to know people, unless you have the resources for endless travel or staying long-term in a larger Trad community.

There's got to be a way to solve this problem and bring together traditional-minded people who seriously want to pursue Catholic marriage. Yes, dedicated TLM dating websites (or better yet, more opportunities to meet people in person such as appropriately supervised YAGs, collaborative celebrations of feast days between different chapels etc.) would probably be the best options. However, there doesn't appear to be any sign of a TLM dating website or other YAG-type events being organized in the future. it can take a lot of of time and energy to get these started, and if it is an in-person event you need the money and space to make it happen. So, until someone finally has the ability to start one of these options from scratch, perhaps a properly regulated online forum or subforum would still be better than nothing. 

YAG is a great idea.  Website not so much.

[Philothea3]

The idea is that it would give an option for people to communicate who literally have no one at their chapel to consider a courtship with.  Nothing formal but an opportunity to help until there is something better out there.

I don't think personal pictures should ever be allowed to be posted on the forum for it.

If people find they have similar beliefs and are similar enough in personal preferences and age they can privately message each other and give each other their email addresses.

It would also give a good spot for young people to be instructed by the older members as to what they should work on to make themselves more "marriageable".

Agree. It'll be great if there's a place where a general courtship-oriented self introduction can be posted, then people can privately message them for further questions or photo. It could also be helpful if they can add a feature that only single persons can view that sub-forum?

[hansel]

YAG is a great idea.  Website not so much.

It's definitely true that meeting people in person is usually objectively better/much more efficient than virtual. There is a lot that can be learned from one in-person conversation that even multiple emails might not indicate.  Online is often the only viable option immediately available to many due to location and lack of YAGs, and there are good marriages that have resulted from it. However, there definitely is a serious need for more in-person opportunities. 

Perhaps a forum/subforum online could also be utilized to help organize appropriate YAG-like events centered around a given chapel? (even if relatively informal, for example a group visit to a shrine/park then dinner etc. after Sunday mass). Therefore, an online subforum could be potentially used as a tool to organize more in-person events. 

[bodeens]

I think some people meet on tradcircle.ning.com but CI's discussion is more candid and this site also does not require real name registration and  30 day activity... Which tradcircle does. Not active for 30 days and your account is deleted.

As I have pointed out before, YAG's criteria actually disallow almost all users from the forum from going 

[epiphany]

YAG's criteria actually disallow almost all users from the forum from going

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[bodeens]

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The rules:

Special Requirements
To avoid a repetition of past problems between potential spouses, the late Fr. Anthony Cekada laid down the following requirements for participation:
By registering for this activity, you affirm that:

• You are a sedevacantist.
• You will not participate in Masses that are offered “in union with” Francis or where his name is inserted into the Canon of the Mass.
• You reject in principle and practice the SSPV policy of (a) refusing communion with the clergy of St. Gertrude the Great Church and its affiliates and of (b) denying sacraments to laymen who receive sacraments from said clergy.
• You believe that Baptism of Desire and Baptism of Blood are possible means of salvation for persons who die without Baptism of Water, provided they meet the other criteria set by the Church.

So dogmatic non una-cuм, dogmatic BoD/BoB, dogmatic sede. One or more of those threee factors pretty much excludes everyone here lol.

Better question is why would you want your kids going? Some very dangerous requirements to go.

[epiphany]

The rules:So dogmatic non una-cuм, dogmatic BoD/BoB, dogmatic sede. One or more of those threee factors pretty much excludes everyone here lol.

Better question is why would you want your kids going? Some very dangerous requirements to go.

Why couldn't hansel or AMDGJMJ create a trad YAG get together once or twice a year ONLY allowing the beliefs you mentioned?

[Lois Einhorn]

Only makes sense if it becomes big, right? Surely it is highly impractical for people to court hundreds of miles apart.

Also, how would they interact on the forum? Make a post about themselves? If it becomes big, how would people filter by age, location, beliefs, etc. on a forum?

There are plenty of catholic dating sites for those interested I'm sure, the real problem is likely the quality of the people desperate enough to make a dating profile, not the site. A new site won't fix the problem.

You're missing the forest for the trees. This site attracts a certain type of Catholic - those who are, usually, serious about their Faith and tradition or eager to learn about it, if they're new converts or finally snapping out of the Novus Ordo spell. The other "Catholic" courtship sites attract dubious prospects.