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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Sexless marriages and very small families
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2019, 02:53:49 PM »
I think the biggest problem of our day is that females (including Trads) have been corrupted into either 1) a Disney-land fantasy view of marriage where they can't deal with any hardships or hard work, 2) wanting a career and a marriage both, which leads to chaos, 3) not truly grasping the challenges of motherhood and (maybe) not wanting those challenges (see #1 and #2 above).

I'm not saying that modern marriages are falling apart JUST because of women.  I'm saying that, in the grand scheme of things, the woman usually holds a marriage together (in the early stages) during rough patches, until the man finally "wakes up" and becomes a man.  Men have always been more immature, selfish and commitment-phobic in all times of history.  This is nothing new and the solutions are known because the problem has been around for so long.

But the realities of immature, selfish and lazy women - who aren't really "all in" on the marriage or motherhood - this is not normal, not easy to deal with and far, far more destructive than such qualities in men.  If women are corrupted, so goes society, because a woman who is corrupted affects an entire family, and eventually a nation.  A man that is corrupted usually only affects himself, or others to a lesser degree than women, because man, by nature, is more independent, so his errors are more isolated.  

Re: Sexless marriages and very small families
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2019, 03:09:29 PM »
The biggest problem is that they can get away with the above at least from the age of 16-40.

Once their looks go they are cast into the outer darkness.  As older women often complain they are invisible (worthless).

The social stigma was a huge factor in controlling behavior of men and women.  Most people care SO MUCH about what people think of them.  Hence Facebook likes, subscribers and twitter "followers".

That has not changed a jot and never will.  The parameters of what is socially and morally acceptable have done a 180.



Re: Sexless marriages and very small families
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2019, 03:10:33 PM »
Would it be fair to assume that if married couples really start thinking of sex as a "debt", things might already be a tad shaky? 

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Sexless marriages and very small families
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2019, 03:17:01 PM »
Would it be fair to assume that if married couples really start thinking of sex as a "debt", things might already be a tad shaky?

Indeed.  I would assume that most people would be unsatisfied and hurt if their spouse were merely reluctantly rendering said "debt" out of a sense of duty.  Of course, theologians use the term to indicate that there is a moral obligation, but IMO the obligation goes beyond simply doing the physical act.  At that point, however, it becomes rather subjective, so moral theologians stay away from subjective stuff that cannot be expressed in the form of a syllogism.

Offline Matthew

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Re: Sexless marriages and very small families
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2019, 03:17:32 PM »
Would it be fair to assume that if married couples really start thinking of sex as a "debt", things might already be a tad shaky?
That's the technical term used by the Church. It's called the marriage debt. Either spouse can demand the debt at any time. It's part of the marriage contract.