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Re: Sedevacantism and the Manifest Heretic (Siscoe)
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2023, 10:02:42 AM »
While correct about Chips and Salsa, Fr Kramer was educated post-Vatican II.  No thanks.

Please don't brush off Fr. Paul Kramer's knowledge just because he was educated post Vatican II.  During the 1970s, there were still solid Dominican theologians.

Re: Sedevacantism and the Manifest Heretic (Siscoe)
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2023, 10:04:46 AM »
Please don't brush off Fr. Paul Kramer's knowledge just because he was educated post Vatican II.  During the 1970s, there were still solid Dominican theologians.
But I will.  He is a Vatican II priest educated by the Vatican II church.    


Re: Sedevacantism and the Manifest Heretic (Siscoe)
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2023, 10:15:57 AM »
But I will.  He is a Vatican II priest educated by the Vatican II church.   

You are making a big mistake.

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Re: Sedevacantism and the Manifest Heretic (Siscoe)
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2023, 10:59:17 AM »
That's great and all, but the real issue is and always has been that what purports to be Holy Church misleads and devours its own children.  Thus...Traddieland exists.

There are notable errors in the article, but they're meaningless in the face of the real, long-unaddressed issue: what purports to be the Immaculate Spouse has, in fact, been a WHORE for 60+ years.  Please explain...

THIS^^^.  I've been repeating this for years, that the core problem here is that of the nature of the Church and the indefectibility of the Church.  You can argue until the proverbial cows come home about ipso facto depositus this or ab ecclesia deponendus that, but it's a distraction from the core problem.  Had Vatican II and the NOM never happened, and 60+ years of Modernist "Magisterium", and it were just a question of Jorge running around spouting heresies on his papal airplane, that discussion might matter, to a point.

I've repeatedly said that I'm not a sedevacantist, but an indefectibilist.  If you want to claim that Jorge is the pope but is not acting freely but being blackmailed, and so all his papal acts are null and void, or claim that the real Jorge is tied up and drugged in a Vatican dungeon, replaced by an imposter, then you go ahead.  But don't tell me that Jorge Bergolgio is the Vicar of Christ.  In the old days, I'd challenge these types to a duel for insulting the honor of Holy Mother Church.

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Re: Sedevacantism and the Manifest Heretic (Siscoe)
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2023, 11:01:55 AM »
Then you haven't been looking very hard.  I may or may not bother to take the time to dissect this garbage, but garbage it is.  I am embarrassed for you that you think this is praiseworthy. Godspeed, good sir.

and THIS^^^