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Offline Matthew

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Scruples and other neuroses
« on: October 01, 2012, 02:04:22 PM »
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  • I hypothesize that just as Carpel-Tunnel syndrome is a suffering specific to those who sit at the computer a lot, Scruples is a suffering that can afflict those of melancholic temperament who have plenty of free time.

    True, I've read about certain Saints having to suffer Scruples, but they were almost without exception Religious or priests who had plenty of time to be with their own thoughts.

    Think about it: Religious and priests LEAVE THE WORLD so that they can have more time to pray and concentrate on spiritual matters.

    Working at a job 8 hours a day, or taking care of a family of 8, you won't have a CHANCE to dwell on the validity of that confession you made 2 weeks ago. Your mind is sufficiently occupied with exterior things.

    A religious sitting in his choir stall making his morning meditation? Of course he has plenty of chance for this.

    A mind having hours on end to turn inward is a very, very dangerous thing. I've known several people who had problems with this, and it was always at the phase of their life when they had WAY too much time to sit on the couch all day and brood about things.

    For that matter, the Spiritual Masters speak about this as a warning -- to avoid turning inward too much. One way is to focus on God, the sufferings of Our Lord, etc. and not just ourselves and our actions.

    I'm not criticizing the religious life (God forbid!), I'm just stating a fact. Scruples is an occupational hazard for the religious and the unemployed, just as a pulled back muscle is a frequent injury for those who do shipping/warehouse work.
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    « Reply #1 on: October 01, 2012, 02:08:28 PM »
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  • Some mentally ill in the world worry too. One time, asked in confession if I was drifting that way....priest chuckled and told me not too worry, he said if I had scruples, would be in the confessional a whole lot more then I was......told me I was only doing what was right about confessing and not to worry as it was clear, during our talk, that I was not obsessing...just a good conscience and sensus......
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    « Reply #2 on: October 01, 2012, 02:09:52 PM »
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  • One thing I've learned is that every type of person, every lifestyle has its own particular dangers and sufferings.

    The modern woman with 2 children has a huge danger of becoming neurotic about childcare -- germs, for example. A mother of 6 or 8 certainly can't stop the world every time a pacifier drops on the floor. She *can't* become a so-called helicopter parent, hovering over her children as they play, constantly intervening and watching them.

    Think of how many people are more religious about their daily shower than they are about their weekly Mass or their monthly confession!  Some even speak about their baby/toddler/young child's "daily bath" or bedtime routine which involves a bath. I'm thinking, you wouldn't be doing that if you had 5 or more children. Unless the kids were playing outside AND got dirty, I don't think children need daily baths.

    The Irish have an expression, which might be uttered after picking up a baby's pacifier from the floor: "You have to eat a pound of dirt before you die."

    Likewise, we've all known bachelors (or bachelorettes, sometimes empty nesters) who are neurotic about the cleanliness of their house.
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    « Reply #3 on: October 01, 2012, 02:20:05 PM »
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    One thing I've learned is that every type of person, every lifestyle has its own particular dangers and sufferings.

    The modern woman with 2 children has a huge danger of becoming neurotic about childcare -- germs, for example. A mother of 6 or 8 certainly can't stop the world every time a pacifier drops on the floor. She *can't* become a so-called helicopter parent, hovering over her children as they play, constantly intervening and watching them.

    Think of how many people are more religious about their daily shower than they are about their weekly Mass or their monthly confession!  Some even speak about their baby/toddler/young child's "daily bath" or bedtime routine which involves a bath. I'm thinking, you wouldn't be doing that if you had 5 or more children. Unless the kids were playing outside AND got dirty, I don't think children need daily baths.

    The Irish have an expression, which might be uttered after picking up a baby's pacifier from the floor: "You have to eat a pound of dirt before you die."

    Likewise, we've all known bachelors (or bachelorettes, sometimes empty nesters) who are neurotic about the cleanliness of their house.


    True, all more need for a good confessor, someone with good amount of training AND experience...can deduce your state of life (have been asked about this in the confessional) and apply a solution....
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    « Reply #4 on: October 03, 2012, 01:00:07 AM »
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    One thing I've learned is that every type of person, every lifestyle has its own particular dangers and sufferings.

    The modern woman with 2 children has a huge danger of becoming neurotic about childcare -- germs, for example. A mother of 6 or 8 certainly can't stop the world every time a pacifier drops on the floor. She *can't* become a so-called helicopter parent, hovering over her children as they play, constantly intervening and watching them.

    Think of how many people are more religious about their daily shower than they are about their weekly Mass or their monthly confession!  Some even speak about their baby/toddler/young child's "daily bath" or bedtime routine which involves a bath. I'm thinking, you wouldn't be doing that if you had 5 or more children. Unless the kids were playing outside AND got dirty, I don't think children need daily baths.

    The Irish have an expression, which might be uttered after picking up a baby's pacifier from the floor: "You have to eat a pound of dirt before you die."

    Likewise, we've all known bachelors (or bachelorettes, sometimes empty nesters) who are neurotic about the cleanliness of their house.


    True, all more need for a good confessor, someone with good amount of training AND experience...can deduce your state of life (have been asked about this in the confessional) and apply a solution....



    Is it better to discern one's state of life during a retreat though?
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)


     

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