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Battle Hymn of the Republic in New Mess
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2017, 05:52:37 AM »
Quote from: Neil Obstat
Maybe I'm fortunate but I've never heard this before.  It does nothing for me hearing it the first time. Just another guitar ditty like the others, Marty Haugen, et.al.

Quote from: TKGS
In the 1970s, we used to sing this song during the hippy guitar Mass on Saturday nights:




It goes on (and on and on) for EIGHT MINUTES.


It had to go on and on and on.  It was sometimes sung during the Shaking of Hand Rite (I forget what they actually called it) where the hippie priest with the huge red-haired afro and the tie-dye vestments would shake hands with virtually everyone seated down the main aisle and some of the people in the front rows of the "in the round" church building.  

Battle Hymn of the Republic in New Mess
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2017, 09:05:06 AM »
Quote from: Neil Obstat
(Battle Hymn of the Republic)
Quote from: Disputaciones

Last night I realized that this is what they would sing in the Novus Ordo when I used to go to the new mess. I suppose they still sing it.

I already knew that they use several Protestant songs in the "mass," but I didn't know this was a Protestant one as well. Made me even angrier.


A very common hymn as I recall in Novus Ordo settings used to be the theme from Beethoven's 9th ("choral") symphony.  Funny -- that was a major element in Stanley Kubric's A Clockwork Orange.

They took the music, melody, and put new words in there to make it fit at Mass.

The real kicker is that's exactly what Martin Luther used to do. He took melodies from the bars in Germany and wrote in Bible verses so when men came to services Sunday morning they'd sit there grinning when the music reminded them of their drinking spree the night before.



I remember in a book on the life of St. Luis Grignion de Montefort that the tunes of the local country-side were good melodiclly but nasty lyrically, so he took the songs and rewrote them into religious ones to teach to the children, who caused them to spread to other places. Of course, I doubt he tried to make them part of the Mass.


Battle Hymn of the Republic in New Mess
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2017, 10:33:40 AM »
I remember the televised funeral of Robert F. Kennedy at St. Patrick's
Cathedral in New York City in 1968 the Battle Hymn of the Republic
was sung at the end of the Mass.  Many comments at the time
agreed that this was very unusual singing a basically a Protestant
Hymn at a Catholic Mass. I remember the hymn was insisted on
by the family of RFK.