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« on: September 18, 2009, 10:47:26 AM »
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    « Reply #1 on: September 18, 2009, 11:00:36 AM »
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  • There she goes again, making a mountain out of a molehill, nitpicking about what to call your kids as the world falls apart around us...

    She took the words right out of my mouth!


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    « Reply #2 on: September 18, 2009, 11:19:55 AM »
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  • It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil

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    « Reply #3 on: September 18, 2009, 11:52:53 AM »
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    Maybe someone can explain for us what "principles" she is talking about. "Kids" is informal and shouldn't be used when writing, IMHO. "You guys" in in the same category, in my book. Should one be correcting it's use in all circumstances? I don't think so, but I'll assume Mrs. Horvath is just making us think a little about it.


    Apparently, she is opposed to the "hippy Cultural Revolution of the 1960s..."  Hmmm...

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    « Reply #4 on: September 18, 2009, 12:58:24 PM »
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    Maybe someone can explain for us what "principles" she is talking about. "Kids" is informal and shouldn't be used when writing, IMHO. "You guys" in in the same category, in my book. Should one be correcting it's use in all circumstances? I don't think so, but I'll assume Mrs. Horvath is just making us think a little about it.


    Apparently, she is opposed to the "hippy Cultural Revolution of the 1960s..."  Hmmm...


    And I'm in favor of it, right? And anybody who ever uses the word "kid" is in favor of it, right? Even somebody who homeschools their "kids" and makes sure that they are educated and know their catechism is in favor of it, albeit implicitly, right?

    Or could it be that the use of "kid" is just accidental today...a cultural thing...certainly not intrinsically evil...therefore not resisted as evil. Maybe there are bigger fish to fry...in the minds of these parents. Did you ever think of that?

    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil


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    « Reply #5 on: September 18, 2009, 01:47:22 PM »
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    Maybe someone can explain for us what "principles" she is talking about. "Kids" is informal and shouldn't be used when writing, IMHO. "You guys" in in the same category, in my book. Should one be correcting it's use in all circumstances? I don't think so, but I'll assume Mrs. Horvath is just making us think a little about it.

    Apparently, she is opposed to the "hippy Cultural Revolution of the 1960s..."  Hmmm...

    And I'm in favor of it, right? And anybody who ever uses the word "kid" is in favor of it, right? Even somebody who homeschools their "kids" and makes sure that they are educated and know their catechism is in favor of it, albeit implicitly, right?

    Or could it be that the use of "kid" is just accidental today...a cultural thing...certainly not intrinsically evil...therefore not resisted as evil. Maybe there are bigger fish to fry...in the minds of these parents. Did you ever think of that?


    Sure.  However, focusing on 'the little' things sometimes helps with the bigger things (or fish)

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    « Reply #6 on: September 18, 2009, 02:31:52 PM »
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    Maybe someone can explain for us what "principles" she is talking about. "Kids" is informal and shouldn't be used when writing, IMHO. "You guys" in in the same category, in my book. Should one be correcting it's use in all circumstances? I don't think so, but I'll assume Mrs. Horvath is just making us think a little about it.


    Apparently, she is opposed to the "hippy Cultural Revolution of the 1960s..."  Hmmm...


    And I'm in favor of it, right? And anybody who ever uses the word "kid" is in favor of it, right? Even somebody who homeschools their "kids" and makes sure that they are educated and know their catechism is in favor of it, albeit implicitly, right?

    Or could it be that the use of "kid" is just accidental today...a cultural thing...certainly not intrinsically evil...therefore not resisted as evil. Maybe there are bigger fish to fry...in the minds of these parents. Did you ever think of that?



    Sure.  However, focusing on 'the little' things sometimes helps with the bigger things (or fish)


    Right. And the focus should be in one's own mirror. Lead by example. Don't worry so much why everybody else doesn't see the same significance in those little things; and don't think less of them because of it.
    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil

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    « Reply #7 on: September 18, 2009, 02:58:16 PM »
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    And the focus should be in one's own mirror. Lead by example. Don't worry so much why everybody else doesn't see the same significance in those little things; and don't think less of them because of it.


    Right on.


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    « Reply #8 on: September 18, 2009, 03:14:15 PM »
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    Maybe someone can explain for us what "principles" she is talking about. "Kids" is informal and shouldn't be used when writing, IMHO. "You guys" in in the same category, in my book. Should one be correcting it's use in all circumstances? I don't think so, but I'll assume Mrs. Horvath is just making us think a little about it.


    Apparently, she is opposed to the "hippy Cultural Revolution of the 1960s..."  Hmmm...


    And I'm in favor of it, right? And anybody who ever uses the word "kid" is in favor of it, right? Even somebody who homeschools their "kids" and makes sure that they are educated and know their catechism is in favor of it, albeit implicitly, right?

    Or could it be that the use of "kid" is just accidental today...a cultural thing...certainly not intrinsically evil...therefore not resisted as evil. Maybe there are bigger fish to fry...in the minds of these parents. Did you ever think of that?



    Sure.  However, focusing on 'the little' things sometimes helps with the bigger things (or fish)


    Right. And the focus should be in one's own mirror. Lead by example. Don't worry so much why everybody else doesn't see the same significance in those little things; and don't think less of them because of it.


    If you (re)read my posts carefully, you may notice that I never stated my position on the OP, in particular, the use of the word "kid."  The etymology of the word can be found here:

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kid



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    « Reply #9 on: September 18, 2009, 03:30:04 PM »
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  • I have never heard of that before. Interesting.

    In regards to being a responsible man, would it be interesting to learn, after six years of accumulating all the wisdom you could, that you had it right all alon

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    « Reply #10 on: September 18, 2009, 03:35:09 PM »
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    I have never heard of that before. Interesting.


    Try this one:

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lad

    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil


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    « Reply #11 on: September 18, 2009, 03:37:33 PM »
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  • http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chap

    Should we be calling our kids "chaps"? :)
    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil

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    « Reply #12 on: September 18, 2009, 03:48:00 PM »
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    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chap

    Should we be calling our kids "chaps"? :)


    That is principally a British word.  If you speak French, even if you are fluent, do not go to Paris and try it.  Speak English!

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    « Reply #13 on: September 18, 2009, 06:35:20 PM »
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    Maybe someone can explain for us what "principles" she is talking about. "Kids" is informal and shouldn't be used when writing, IMHO. "You guys" in in the same category, in my book. Should one be correcting it's use in all circumstances? I don't think so, but I'll assume Mrs. Horvath is just making us think a little about it.


    Apparently, she is opposed to the "hippy Cultural Revolution of the 1960s..."  Hmmm...


    And I'm in favor of it, right? And anybody who ever uses the word "kid" is in favor of it, right? Even somebody who homeschools their "kids" and makes sure that they are educated and know their catechism is in favor of it, albeit implicitly, right?

    Or could it be that the use of "kid" is just accidental today...a cultural thing...certainly not intrinsically evil...therefore not resisted as evil. Maybe there are bigger fish to fry...in the minds of these parents. Did you ever think of that?



    Sure.  However, focusing on 'the little' things sometimes helps with the bigger things (or fish)


    Right. And the focus should be in one's own mirror. Lead by example. Don't worry so much why everybody else doesn't see the same significance in those little things; and don't think less of them because of it.


    I agree that we should lead by example, but I think that's what Ms. Horvat is trying to get Traditional Catholics to do in hope for restoring more and being counter-revolutionary. Yet too many Traditional Catholics favor function over formality, fall into "fiftiesism" as Bishop Williamson states, and yes even Modernism. We've already seen The Remnant begin to pander to mainstream audiences, sadly. O how many similarities I see between Neo-Traditionalism and the US Evangelicals of the 1970's-today. If such behavior continues it may be the undoing of Traditionalist movement.
    Pray for me, always.

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    « Reply #14 on: September 18, 2009, 08:24:54 PM »
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    If such behavior continues it may be the undoing of Traditionalist movement.


    Not!  I think that we will still be here, until the very end.  Our Lord promised that, didn't he?!

     

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