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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: jman123 on October 15, 2018, 07:37:25 AM

Title: Same sex behavior in penguins
Post by: jman123 on October 15, 2018, 07:37:25 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/same-sex-penguin-couple-incubate-egg-sydney-aquarium-094836371.html

How should this be viewed? 
Title: Re: Same sex behavior in penguins
Post by: Ladislaus on October 15, 2018, 08:06:39 AM
There's zero indication in the article that they two were copulating ... just that they were working together to incubate an egg.
Title: Re: Same sex behavior in penguins
Post by: Mithrandylan on October 15, 2018, 09:15:40 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/same-sex-penguin-couple-incubate-egg-sydney-aquarium-094836371.html

How should this be viewed?
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Well the only logical conclusion is that these two gαy penguins had sex together, made a baby, and then incubated it, from which it follows soundly that sodomy is a perfectly natural and virtuous activity for human persons to engage in. 
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That's sarcasm, of course.  1) As Lad said, no indication they attempted to mate. 2) Had they, they would not have produced a baby. 3) It seems more or less insignificant, sɛҳuąƖly speaking, that they are incubating it. 4) It's totally disingenuous that penguins, who are monogamous, are now being propped up as a model for human sɛҳuąƖ behavior because someone thinks there's a gαy angle to be had.
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That being said, there is sodomy in the animal world.  Here is a great article on it by Dr. Solimeo: http://www.tfp.org/the-qanimal-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖityq-myth/
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In sum, when animals sodomize each other it is typically the result of conflicting stimuli, and environmental factors favoring copulation.  In other words, animals usually sodomize each other for the same reason that they eat their own feces or even their young.  They are presented with conflicting stimuli and since they cannot reason to select the appropriate response, they simply act on whichever stimuli is more favorable given the situation.  Sometimes that means they eat their babies, their feces, or commit sodomy.
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But even setting that aside, it is a completely unwarranted logical leap to go from "two animals sodomized each other" to "sodomy is a usual, natural, and virtuous activity for human persons to engage in."  There's no reason to believe that aside from whatever very vague appeal to Darwinism is implied in the argument.  And see above, too.  We're encouraged to be sodomites like penguins, but not monogamous like them.  The agenda couldn't be more transparent.
Title: Re: Same sex behavior in penguins
Post by: Mithrandylan on October 15, 2018, 01:17:31 PM
It's also interesting and encouraging to see that virtually all the comments in the article are calling it out for it's B.S.
Title: Re: Same sex behavior in penguins
Post by: Cera on October 15, 2018, 05:28:03 PM
The article says:
"are now fostering an egg given them by aquarium staff who suspected they were more than friends"

Obviously, these penguins were set up by the PC staff and the PC fake news.

My DH and I were at an aquarium last week and very much enjoyed seeing the lovey-dovey peguin couples nuzzling each other. All were paired off, except for one male puffing his chest out trying to get the attention of a female. She ignored him and stayed with her mate.

Just more fake news in another attempt to attack God's creation.
Title: Re: Same sex behavior in penguins
Post by: tdrev123 on October 15, 2018, 07:56:36 PM
Ya and dogs rape other dogs.
Cats smother there kittens. 
The whole point of Catholicism is that humans have free will, animals do not.  We are not animals.  
Title: Re: Same sex behavior in penguins
Post by: Nadir on October 18, 2018, 08:52:07 PM

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Tish Hannan, supervisor of the aquarium's penguin department told the broadcaster.

Upon receiving the dummy egg, she added, "They immediately knew exactly what it was and started incubating it."
So who'd the dumb one, eh?

Cruelty to, and defamation of penguins I  say.
Title: Re: Same sex behavior in penguins
Post by: trad123 on October 18, 2018, 11:42:40 PM
We live in a fallen world.


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Romans 8:19 For the expectation of the creature waiteth for the revelation of the sons of God.


https://www.ecatholic2000.com/haydock/ntcomment132.shtml


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Several interpreters understand all creatures whatsoever, even irrational and inanimate creatures of this world, which are represented as if they had a knowledge and sense of a more happy condition, of a new unchangeable state of perfection, which they are to receive at the end of the world. See 2 Pet. i. 13. Apoc. xxi. 1. Now every insensible creature is figuratively brought in groaning like a woman in labour, waiting, and wishing for that new and happy state; but in the mean time unwillingly made subject to vanity, i.e. to these changeable imperfections of generations and corruptions, which then they shall be delivered from. Wi. — The creature, &c. The creatures expect with impatience, and hope with confidence, to see a happy change in their condition; they flatter themselves that they will be delivered from the captivity of sin, to which man has reduced them, and enter into the liberty of the glory of the sons of God. Not that the inanimate creation will really participate the happiness and glory of the elect; although in some sense they may be said to have part in it, since they will enter into a pure, incorruptible and perfect state to the end of ages. They will no longer be subject to those changes and vicissitudes which sin has brought upon them; nor will sinful man any longer abuse their beauty and goodness in offending the Creator of all. S. Ambrose and S. Jerom teach that the sun, moon, and stars will be then much more brilliant and beautiful than at present, no longer subject to those changes they at present suffer. Philo and Tertullian teach that the beasts of prey will then lay aside their ferocity, and venomous serpents their poisonous qualities.

Title: Re: Same sex behavior in penguins
Post by: trad123 on October 19, 2018, 12:09:15 AM
A comment I just read on YouTube:


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ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is seen in nature, therefore it's natural.

By faith we have knowledge of the fall, sin, death. To most people death seems a natural part of life. It was not so from the beginning.  By faith we know it is a consequence of sin.

When the question is ever asked: How should this be viewed?

All things should be viewed according to the faith.



Eudes, Saint John. THE LIFE AND THE KINGDOM OF JESUS: A TREATISE ON CHRISTIAN PERFECTION (Kindle Locations 1046-1052). Eudist Ebooks. Kindle Edition.


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I. First Foundation of Christian Life and Sanctity: Faith

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It is by this Light and this Divine Science that you possess perfect knowledge, so far as it is possible in this life, of all things whether in God or not in God. Reason and human science often lead you into error because they are too weak and limited to penetrate to the knowledge of the things of God, which are infinite and incomprehensible. Human intelligence and knowledge also deceive you, because they are too full of the darkness and obscurity of sin to attain to a genuine knowledge even of things outside of God. But the Light of Faith, being a participation in the Truth and Light of God, can not possibly deceive you; indeed, it shows you things as God sees them, that is, in their Truth, and just as they exist in the Eyes of God.