Author Topic: Sacramental vs. Natural Marriage, Divorce (Read 1023 times)

Peter15and1 · « **on:** July 21, 2015, 08:20:17 AM »

This topic has always confused me, and with the deplorable state marriage is in in this country, it is sometimes an unfortunately necessary to understand it all, and I was hoping someone could help me.

I know that a marriage between two Catholics is a Sacramental marriage and cannot ever be dissolved, save by the death of one of the spouses.

My understanding of a marriage between two baptized non-Catholics (e.g., two Protestants) is a Sacramental marriage, even if they don't believe in Sacraments, and it cannot ever be dissolved, save by the death of one of the spouses.

My understanding of a marriage between one baptized individual a one unbaptized individual is a non-sacramental, but merely natural marriage. This type of natural marriage can be dissolved by the pope via the Petrine privilege.

My understanding of a marriage between two unbaptized individuals is a non-sacramental, but merely natural marriage. This type of marriage can be dissolved by the pope via the Pauline privilege.

My understanding of a marriage that involves a divorced person, that has not been dissolved by the pope pursuant to one of the privileges or truly been annulled by the Church, is void, and the people involved are committing adultery.

My understanding of a marriage that involves one or two Catholics, that does not take place in the Church, is void, and the people involved are committing adultery.

I know that any type of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ marriage is absolutely void, and is a sin that cries to Heaven for vengeance.

If any of the above is incorrect, please correct me so that I can understand better.

songbird · « **Reply #1 on:** July 21, 2015, 02:38:14 PM »

I understand that protestants have no sacraments. They have no need for consecrated priests. They are installed. It is true, no sacraments. Sacraments are only of the True Catholic Church.

As for ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, there is no such thing as marriage. Maybe they want to say civil union, but there is no such thing. Only man makes his own rules and goes to hell for it. They are damned fools.

Dolores · « **Reply #2 on:** July 21, 2015, 03:05:42 PM »

Quote from: songbird

I understand that protestants have no sacraments. They have no need for consecrated priests. They are installed. It is true, no sacraments. Sacraments are only of the True Catholic Church.

This is not correct. It has been long-held that Protestants may have two valid sacraments: baptism and marriage. This is so because, unlike the other sacraments, neither requires a priest for validity. Any person, even a pagan, may validly baptize. For marriage, the couple themselves are the ministers of the sacrament, so if a baptized man and a baptized women, although Protestant, do get married (and they are both otherwise able to marry), then it is a valid Sacramental marriage.

To the OP: your understanding of things is the same as mine.

Stubborn · « **Reply #3 on:** July 21, 2015, 05:47:37 PM »

Holy Mother the Church, being the only guardian of the sacraments, protects the dignity of the sacrament and recognizes all marriages as certainly valid until proven void, even if the marriage is certainly not sacramental i.e. between two Jєωs. She recognizes the Marriage Contract whether sacramental or not. She does this for the good of the family unit, society and the dignity and integrity of the sacrament.

Quote from: CE

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It is certain, therefore, that marriage contracted between baptized persons is a sacrament, even the so-called mixed marriage between a Catholic and a non-Catholic, provided the non-Catholic has been validly baptized. It is equally certain that marriage between unbaptized persons is not a sacrament in the strict sense of the word..........

There is, however, great uncertainty as to how those marriages are to be regarded which exist legitimately and validly between a baptized and an unbaptized person. Such marriages may occur in two ways. In the first place, a marriage may have been contracted between unbelievers, one of whom afterwards becomes a Christian, while the other remains an unbeliever. (Here believer and unbeliever are taken in the sense of baptized and unbaptized.) The marriage contracted validly while both were unbelievers continues to exist, and though under certain circuмstances it is dissoluble, it is not rendered void simply because of the baptism of one of the parties