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Rosary Rings - Are the Indulgences to be gained?
« on: July 17, 2012, 12:30:49 PM »
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  • A rosary ring, if blessed by a Trad Priest, does it retain the indulgences that are available for the traditional bead rosary?

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    « Reply #1 on: July 17, 2012, 12:42:16 PM »
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  • I don't see why not.  It's the prayer itself that's indulgenced.  You gain another indulgence by using sacramentals.
    My conscience compels me to make this disclaimer lest God judges me partly culpable for the errors and heresy promoted on this forum... For the record I support neither Sedevacantism or the SSPX.  I do not define myself as either a traditionalist or Novus


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    « Reply #2 on: July 17, 2012, 12:47:55 PM »
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    I don't see why not.  It's the prayer itself that's indulgenced.  You gain another indulgence by using sacramentals.


    I've read that you gain indulgences by praying the rosary IF you are actually holding a rosary.  Not that it would be a bad thing otherwise.  

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    « Reply #3 on: July 17, 2012, 12:57:53 PM »
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  • I sometimes use a rosary ring and it comes in handy while driving.  However, if I'm missing out on indulgences by doing so, please let me know.  

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    « Reply #4 on: July 17, 2012, 12:58:06 PM »
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    I don't see why not.  It's the prayer itself that's indulgenced.  You gain another indulgence by using sacramentals.


    I've read that you gain indulgences by praying the rosary IF you are actually holding a rosary.  Not that it would be a bad thing otherwise.  


    That's not correct.  You can use your fingers to pray the rosary and still gain an indulgence.  If you use rosary beads you actually gain two separate indulgences.  I also don't see why blessed rosary ring wouldn't be considered a sacramental.  
    My conscience compels me to make this disclaimer lest God judges me partly culpable for the errors and heresy promoted on this forum... For the record I support neither Sedevacantism or the SSPX.  I do not define myself as either a traditionalist or Novus


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    « Reply #5 on: July 17, 2012, 01:56:16 PM »
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    I don't see why not.  It's the prayer itself that's indulgenced.  You gain another indulgence by using sacramentals.


    I've read that you gain indulgences by praying the rosary IF you are actually holding a rosary.  Not that it would be a bad thing otherwise.  


    That's not correct.  You can use your fingers to pray the rosary and still gain an indulgence.  If you use rosary beads you actually gain two separate indulgences.  I also don't see why blessed rosary ring wouldn't be considered a sacramental.  


    Maybe I am incorrect but I do remember reading somewhere that if you pray the rosary with just your fingers, you do not gain the indulgences.


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    « Reply #6 on: July 17, 2012, 02:03:42 PM »
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    I don't see why not.  It's the prayer itself that's indulgenced.  You gain another indulgence by using sacramentals.


    I've read that you gain indulgences by praying the rosary IF you are actually holding a rosary.  Not that it would be a bad thing otherwise.  


    That's not correct.  You can use your fingers to pray the rosary and still gain an indulgence.  If you use rosary beads you actually gain two separate indulgences.  I also don't see why blessed rosary ring wouldn't be considered a sacramental.  


    Maybe I am incorrect but I do remember reading somewhere that if you pray the rosary with just your fingers, you do not gain the indulgences.



    This is correct.

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    « Reply #7 on: July 17, 2012, 02:06:40 PM »
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  • If the day ever comes that all metal detectors and 'one world goons' come to take our rosary's, ring rosaries and the like, I will have my fingers to pray the rosary on and will ask for the same indulgences.  It seems to me I remember it said that ring rosaries will gain the same indulgences as it may be more conducive in UN-practical situations where one can use one's time wisely; such as driving etc.  


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    « Reply #8 on: July 17, 2012, 02:09:53 PM »
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  • I've never heard that you absolutely must use a rosary in order to gain an indulgence.  If you don't want to take my advice, ask your priest.  I'm sure he'll tell you the same thing I'm saying.  FYI I'm posting the list of prayers and works for which one can gain indulgences.  Nowhere does it indicate that you can't gain an indulgence if you don't use rosary beads.  The important thing is that you recite the rosary.  What about persecuted Catholics such as those behind the iron curtain or those in Nazi concentration camps, do you think they always had a rosary?  They probably would have been tortured and killed if they were caught with one.

    Enchiridion of Indulgences (1968)

    The contents of this document are taken from the Enchiridion of Indulgences given by the 1968 Decree of the Sacred Apostolic Penitentiary. Note the norms on indulgences. A convenient summary of which are plenary indulgences are also available here.

    PARTICULAR GRANTS
    Direct, we beg you, O Lord (Actiones nostras)
    Acts of the Theological Virtues and of Contrition (Actus virtutum theologalium et contritionis)
    Adoration of the Most Blessed Sacrament (Adoratio Ss.mi Sacramenti)
    Hidden God (Adoro te devote)
    We have come (Adsumus)
    To you, O blessed Joseph (Ad te, beate Ioseph)
    We give you thanks (Agimus tibi gratias)
    Angel of God (Angele Dei)
    The Angel of the Lord (Angelus Domini)
    Soul of Christ (Anima Christi)
    Visit to the Patriarchal Basilicas in Rome (Basilicarum Patriarchalium in Urbe visitatio)
    Papal Blessing (Benedictio Papalis)
    Visit to a Cemetery (Coemeterii visitatio)
    Visit to an early Christian Cemetery or 'catacomb' (Coemeterii veterum christianorum seu 'catacumbae' visitatio)
    Act of Spiritual Communion (Communionis spiritualis actus)
    I believe in God (Credo in Deum)
    Adoration of the Cross (Crucis Adoratio)
    Office of the Dead (Defunctorum officium)
    Out of the Depths (De profundis)
    Christian Doctrine (Doctrina christiana)
    Lord God Almighty (Domine, Deus omnipotens)
    Look down upon me, good and gentle Jesus (En ego, o bone et dulcissime Iesu)
    Eucharistic Congress (Eucharisticus conventus)
    Hear us (Exaudi nos)
    Spiritual Exercises (Exercitia spiritualia)
    Most sweet Jesus -- Act of Reparation (Iesu dulcissime - Reparationis actus)
    Most sweet Jesus, Redeemer -- Act of Dedication of the Human Race to Jesus Christ King (Iesu dulcissime, Redemptor)
    The Moment of Death (In articulo mortis)

    The Following Litanies (Litaniae) [all with partial indulgences]

    the Most Holy Name of Jesus,

    the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus,

    the Most Precious Blood of Jesus,

    the Blessed Virgin Mary,

    St. Joseph,

    All Saints.

    Magnificat (Magnificat)
    Mary, Mother of Grace (Maria, Mater gratiae)
    Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary (Memorare, o piissima Virgo Maria)
    Have mercy on me (Miserere)
    Novena Devotions (Novendiales preces)
    Use of Articles of Devotion (Obiectorum pietatis usus)
    Little Offices (Officia parva)
    Prayer for Sacerdotal or Religious Vocations (Oratio ad sacerdotales vel religiosas vocationes impetrandas)
    Mental Prayer (Oratio mentalis)
    Let us pray for our Sovereign Pontiff (Oremus pro Pontifice)
    O Sacred Banquet (O sacrum convivium)
    Assistance at Sacred Preaching (Praedicationis sacrae participatio)
    First Communion (Prima Communio)
    First Mass of newly-ordained Priests (Prima Missa neosacerdotum)
    Prayer for Unity of the Church (Pro unitate Ecclesiae oratio)
    Monthly Recollection (Recollectio menstrua)
    Eternal Rest (Requiem aeternam)
    May it please you, O Lord (Retribuere dignare, Domine)
    Recitation of the Marian Rosary (Rosarii marialis recitatio)
    Jubilees of Sacerdotal Ordination (Sacerdotalis Ordinationis celebrationes iubilares)
    Reading of Sacred Scripture (Sacrae Scripturae lectio)
    Hail, holy Queen (Salve, Regina)
    Holy Mary, help the helpless (Sancta Maria, succurre miseris)
    Holy Apostles Peter and Paul (Sancti Apostoli Petre et Paule)
    Veneration of the Saints (Sanctorum cultus)
    Sign of the Cross (Signum crucis)
    A Visit to the Stational Churches of Rome (Stationalium Ecclesiarum Urbis visitatio)
    We fly to your Patronage (Sub tuum praesidium)
    Diocesan Synod (Synodus dioecesana)
    Down in adoration falling (Tantum ergo)
    The Te Deum (Te Deum)
    Come, Holy Spirit, Creator blest (Veni, Creator)
    Come, Holy Spirit (Veni, Sancte Spiritus)
    Exercise of the Way of the Cross (Viae Crucis exercitium)
    Visit, we beg you, O Lord (Visita, quaesumus, Domine)
    Visit to the Parochial Church (Visitatio ecclesiae paroecialis)
    Visit to a Church or an Altar on the day of its consecration (Visitatio ecclesiae vel altaris die consecrationis)
    Visit to a Church or Oratory on All Souls Day (Visitatio ecclesiae vel oratorii in Commemoratione omnium fidelium defunctorum)
    Visit to a Church or Oratory of Religious on the Feast of the Holy Founder (Visitatio ecclesiae vel oratorii Religiosorum die festo Sancti Fundatoris)
    Pastoral Visitation (Visitatio pastoralis)
    Renewal of Baptismal Promises (Votorum baptismalium renovatio)
    Portiuncula Indulgence  

    Decree of the Sacred Apostolic Penitentiary issuing the Enchiridion of Indulgences on 29 June 1968. See also the:

    Norms on Indulgences,

    Three General Grants of Indulgences

    Forward

    First General Grant

    Second General Grant

    Third General Grant Foreward

    Other Grants of Indulgences

    Apostolic Constitution on The Doctrine of Indulgences - 1 January 1967 by pope Paul VI.

    Pious Invocations in Use

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    « Reply #9 on: July 17, 2012, 02:16:45 PM »
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  • You were right ROV; there are indulgences to be gained without beads, however there are, apparently, many many more to be gained with:

    Quote from: Hobbledehoy
    Remember, the indulgences mentioned in the 1950 typical edition of the Enchiridion Indulgentiarum (nos. 395-398) for the recitation of the Holy Rosary do not necessitate the actual use of the Rosary beads, as they are given for the Paters and Aves recited whilst meditating upon the sacred Mysteries. [HOWEVER] The use of the Rosaries blessed with the appropriate blessing found in the Roman Ritual have many, many, many, many indulgences attached to them: so many that the Raccolta does not enumerate them.

    However, it is ever decorous and edifying (and spiritually safer) to have a Rosary with you, not only when saying the Rosary, but on your person wheresoever you go. It is always feasible to carry a small Rosary, or one linked with woven and sturdy string instead of metal chains that can break easily, in one's pocket, and have others for your vehicle, work (if you work at an office or some other stable locality), and some to give to others when the occasion arises (you never know).


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    « Reply #10 on: July 17, 2012, 02:18:24 PM »
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    If you don't want to take my advice, ask your priest.  I'm sure he'll tell you the same thing I'm saying.  


    There are rules for attaining indulgences, in addition to doing a certain action there are criteria to be met.  Under the usual conditions.  


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    « Reply #11 on: July 17, 2012, 05:55:38 PM »
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  • Question:  When did the ring rosary begin?  We see Our Lady with a "rosary".  

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    « Reply #12 on: July 17, 2012, 07:40:21 PM »
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    Question:  When did the ring rosary begin?  We see Our Lady with a "rosary".  


    I've looked high and low for an answer to this, but to no avail.  Anyone else?

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    « Reply #13 on: July 17, 2012, 07:51:54 PM »
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    Question:  When did the ring rosary begin?  We see Our Lady with a "rosary".  


    I've looked high and low for an answer to this, but to no avail.  Anyone else?


    There is an early 16th c. one in the Victoria and Albert Museum.  

    Then what about the Franciscan Rosary, certainly different than a traditional 5 decade one?  I don't think it has to necessarily be a Rosary with the five decades to receive indulgence.  We can pray using a Franciscan, traditional, or even a decade Rosary which many do while driving or walking.  Of course those prayers still have merit if prayed with piety!  HOW we pray is more important than to put the emphasis on whether we use a traditional Rosary, or a decade Rosary.

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    « Reply #14 on: July 17, 2012, 08:30:30 PM »
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  • This precise question had been answered long ago in a query submitted to the Irish Ecclesiastical Record, found in the tome Problems in the Liturgy by Rev. Fr. Gerard Montague (Westminster, MD: The Newman Press, 1958).




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