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Offline ingenting

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« on: July 22, 2012, 09:59:43 PM »
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  • Do you like or disslike rock music?

    Offline de Montfort

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    « Reply #1 on: July 22, 2012, 10:03:50 PM »
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  • Here is a thread that has hundreds of posts on rock music

    Rock music thread


    Offline Nylndech

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    « Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 02:27:16 AM »
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  • theres good and bad in it

    its just another genre of an art form

    completely inappropriate for the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass anyway
    can't tell if ninja

    or cryptotrad

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    « Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 05:01:22 AM »
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  • Love it, I gave it up when I finally realized it was an impediment to my interior life.

    Better to memorize all the words and listen to the same good sermons a million times.

    For a small gain they travel far; for eternal life many will scarcely lift a foot from the ground. - Thomas A Kempis

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    « Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 05:07:43 AM »
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  • From the mentioned other thread :



    Don't miss one of the best traditional catholic articles about Rock music; written in 1985 by a certain Father Richard Williamson and posted here on Cathinfo:




    Offline Traditional Guy 20

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    « Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 06:22:55 AM »
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  • Well as mentioned I created a thread about rock n' roll and it is associated with the counterculture and the hedonism of American society so I don't think that satanic music is good at all.

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    « Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 09:47:13 PM »
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  • I believe much of what was said in the article linked to here.  However, I must say that if one wants to be effective in convincing those "in the trenches" of the rock and roll music scene (and that's who we're trying to convince, aren't we?) that it is evil and dangerous and will exact a very heavy price on their souls ... I think it's important to not make silly mistakes.

    Even if it's not THE most important part of the argument, a fan of the Rolling Stones is going to be amused or offended or both by reading their famous song "Sympathy for the Devil" called "Sympathy for Satan."  That's basic stuff that can be checked.

    This is why it's important not to embellish things for dramatic effect.  You don't have to do that to make your point.  You need to come across as one who knows about these things and takes them seriously.

    There is enormous power in the music scene.  People are heavily addicted to it.  They take their idol worship very seriously.  They memorize lyrics, can detail albums and in which years they came  out.  They  read all the interviews, watch all the videos, go to all the concerts.  They need to be treated with respect, even if they're choices are really bad.  We're trying to convert them, not tell them how stupid they are for admiring this music and these performers.

    I appreciate the warnings from church leaders to the church faithful.  But if you really want to reach the ones' who are in this rock culture, I think it would be better if they could hear from someone who knows this scene.  Who's come out of it alive and repentant.  Someone who knows Mick Jagger is from the Rolling Stones, and what songs he sang.  

    Either that, or at least do some solid research and be careful about the details.

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    « Reply #7 on: July 30, 2012, 01:38:58 PM »
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    They memorize lyrics,

    they should listen to the psalms in Latin and memorize them!


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    « Reply #8 on: July 30, 2012, 06:45:55 PM »
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  • Listening to it tends to bring out anger and rebellion in me, so I don't anymore.

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    « Reply #9 on: July 30, 2012, 09:24:48 PM »
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  • I've heard some rock music that was actually quite edifying (one band in particular comes to mind but I can't remember their name to save my life) but, unfortunately, a lot of what's popular is saturated in sex and the glorification of violence.
    "Attribute to God every good that you have received. If you take credit for something that does not belong to you, you will be guilty of theft." -- St. Anthony of Padua

    "Do you not see the Madonna always beside the tabernacle?" and "Prayer is the oxyge

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    « Reply #10 on: July 30, 2012, 09:28:49 PM »
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    Listening to it tends to bring out anger and rebellion in me, so I don't anymore.


    This is why I've begun to avoid it. Has there ever been a saint who listened to any music other than Church music? I can't imagine a saint listening to the Beatles, or even folk music forms.


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    « Reply #11 on: July 31, 2012, 08:21:51 AM »
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    This is why I've begun to avoid it. Has there ever been a saint who listened to any music other than Church music? I can't imagine a saint listening to the Beatles, or even folk music forms.


    Jesus.

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    « Reply #12 on: July 31, 2012, 08:46:58 AM »
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    This is why I've begun to avoid it. Has there ever been a saint who listened to any music other than Church music? I can't imagine a saint listening to the Beatles, or even folk music forms.


    Jesus.


    Jesus listened to a popular Egyptian group that often toured Galilee, known as The Scarabs. These four young men were popular for their controversial appearance and lyrics, as well as their unique style of music. Jesus jammed to such songs as "I Want to Hold Your Handmaiden", "While My Lyre Gently Weeps", " Cleopatra in the Nile With Diamonds", etc.

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    « Reply #13 on: July 31, 2012, 03:37:21 PM »
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    This is why I've begun to avoid it. Has there ever been a saint who listened to any music other than Church music? I can't imagine a saint listening to the Beatles, or even folk music forms.


    Jesus.


    Jesus listened to a popular Egyptian group that often toured Galilee, known as The Scarabs. These four young men were popular for their controversial appearance and lyrics, as well as their unique style of music. Jesus jammed to such songs as "I Want to Hold Your Handmaiden", "While My Lyre Gently Weeps", " Cleopatra in the Nile With Diamonds", etc.


     :laugh1:

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    « Reply #14 on: August 02, 2012, 12:43:43 PM »
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    I believe much of what was said in the article linked to here.  However, I must say that if one wants to be effective in convincing those "in the trenches" of the rock and roll music scene (and that's who we're trying to convince, aren't we?) that it is evil and dangerous and will exact a very heavy price on their souls ... I think it's important to not make silly mistakes.

    Even if it's not THE most important part of the argument, a fan of the Rolling Stones is going to be amused or offended or both by reading their famous song "Sympathy for the Devil" called "Sympathy for Satan."  That's basic stuff that can be checked.

    This is why it's important not to embellish things for dramatic effect.  You don't have to do that to make your point.  You need to come across as one who knows about these things and takes them seriously.

    There is enormous power in the music scene.  People are heavily addicted to it.  They take their idol worship very seriously.  They memorize lyrics, can detail albums and in which years they came  out.  They  read all the interviews, watch all the videos, go to all the concerts.  They need to be treated with respect, even if they're choices are really bad.  We're trying to convert them, not tell them how stupid they are for admiring this music and these performers.

    I appreciate the warnings from church leaders to the church faithful.  But if you really want to reach the ones' who are in this rock culture, I think it would be better if they could hear from someone who knows this scene.  Who's come out of it alive and repentant.  Someone who knows Mick Jagger is from the Rolling Stones, and what songs he sang.  

    Either that, or at least do some solid research and be careful about the details.


    Kieth Richards recent comment re: ' my old pal Lucifer' has also been morphed into Satan by someone in this Forum. Being more careful about details would certainly help.
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