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Offline spouse of Jesus

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« on: July 21, 2009, 07:22:06 AM »
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  • After asking many questions from the faithful, I am really tired of hearing poetical advises like: pray for the grace, give your heart/wounds to God etc. I really want a practical answer and I want to have some information about what is happening to me.
    I was subject to all forms of child-abuse except the sɛҳuąƖ one. The only good points that I can remember about my hell-like infancy is that we were healthy and not needy.
    I don't know whether my mental image of God and my strange convictions are the results of these situations. but if I tell you about my ideas about God, you may think that I am joking so ridiculous they are. and the fact that I know God is love can't help me. since I believe that love can be a most hedious thing. love can beat, swear, curse, humiliate and abandon you.
    I was alway told that if I were ungrateful to God and complain about my situations God would take away his blessings from me. My mother used to tell me that she wanted to make me visit the chidlren in assylums in order to make me less murmur. I was always terrified at such a thought, I was afraid and didn't want to lose anything.
    Eventually I catched a mental illness at the age of nine, I used to cry alot at that age. And the only thing I learted was this:" why should the healthy wealthy child weep so much? beware lest God takes your health from you in punishment for your ingratitude to him" then my nightmare began, I used to imagine God holding a knife in his hand and coming to amputate my fingers, he was always old and ugly and had a tool for cutting. I couldn't sleep alone since I was afraid of God.
     My parents eventualy divorced and now it was my step-mother's turn to use God as a weapon to threaten me and make me do what she wanted.
    Even after exchanging allah with the Holy Trinity, mahomet with Jesus and mosque with the church, the wound is still there. There is still an interior hostility toward God in my heart, I am depressed and full of anger, I feel an inner restlessness and headache when thinking about God.
    Is there any explanation for this? How can I be healed?


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    « Reply #1 on: July 21, 2009, 08:10:47 AM »
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  • Spouse, I heard an excellent sermon once on this very subject, how to deal with very painful situations that still give bitterness, anger and suffering, despite our best efforts to resist such feelings and worries.

    The priest was speaking about a young man who had been the victim of abuse as a child in a family of Satanists. He had undergone the most horrific abuses imaginable, and was subject to all kinds of occult practices from an early age. He had been possessed as a result of these practices. Through what must have been a miracle of grace he became Catholic, and was undergoing exorcisms, but could not be finally delivered until he had forgiven his family- some might say an impossible task! It was exceptionally hard for him- every attempt to forgive his family in his heart brought up all this bitterness and trauma.

    The priest told him that in his situation, he needed Jesus's help to forgive, and as with all of us it is fruitless to try and do something without God's help. He told him to ask Jesus to come into his heart, and to pray along the lines of "Jesus, I cannot do this myself, it is too much for me. Please, come into my heart and soul, and take these evil thoughts and traumas away from me. I place myself entirely in Your Hands." He did this, and was able to forgive his family entirely, and was delivered of the devil.

    So when you are upset, angry, restless etc- know that it is not your fault if you have these problems, as long as you desire only to please God and do His Will. If we resist temptations and feelings of repugnance, we are actually gaining more merit and pleasing Jesus more that if we simply "had it easy". Ask Him to come into your soul. Ask Him to take these feelings away and to give you His Peace. Ask Our Lady to take you by the hand, as with a small child, and guide you to Jesus- remember "To Jesus, Through Mary". As our Beloved Mother she will not forsake you and neither will Our Lord. And remember that Our Lord KNOWS how you are suffering already, just as He knows if you had a physical illness. Mental pain is often far worse than physical pain- think of Our Blessed Lord in the Garden of Gethsemane, in mental anguish! God is giving you an opportunity to show you His Great Mercy and His Love, as will as giving you a chance to show your devotion and perseverance. He is allowing you to show your love for Him by persevering even when you don't get any pleasure for it. He is the Good Shepherd, who will not leave His flock!



    Even the greatest saints sometimes had feelings of deep depression or periods of "dryness" where God was testing their faith and devotion. St. Therese of the Child Jesus experienced just such suffering for several years. It does not mean that they were bad Catholics or lacking in devotion or that God had forsaken them- it meant the exact opposite! It added to their glory in heaven.

    Persevere! I will be praying for you as I am sure many on this board will also, and I'll ask my family to add your needs to our daily Rosary intentions.


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    « Reply #2 on: July 21, 2009, 08:24:58 AM »
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  •   oh, thank you adesto and your family also!
    The terrible mental image of God, caused by these traumas, seems to persist. I still don't know if Jesus wants me to have peacre and joy or to suffer from this bad image.
      when I saw some movies about simple catholics in past eras, I envied them and thought :"what happiness could be their's to love God with so much inner peace, simplicity and conviction!"
      Does He want me to share their lot, or suffer from all false and terrifying ideas about Him?

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    « Reply #3 on: July 21, 2009, 08:49:51 AM »
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  • Total, emotional healing and forgiveness do take some time,dearest Spouse.  And of course the devils always whispering in our ears, trying to ruin every little gain we make.

    The fact of some of us making sincere attempts to be Catholic is a miracle, considering what happened when we were young!

    It really takes time and maybe it will be our cross for many, many years.   I remember in one of my trainings the teacher said, "even if you COULD heal yourself from the trauma, nobody deserves to do it alone."

    So it's a good thing you mentioned this, so we can all send you love and prayers.

    Holy Guardian Angels, pray for us. :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:

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    « Reply #4 on: July 21, 2009, 09:42:08 AM »
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    « Reply #5 on: July 21, 2009, 11:30:52 AM »
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  • That is a very good story adesto.

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    « Reply #6 on: July 24, 2009, 08:47:41 AM »
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  • Keep in mind SJ, that Our Lord and the image of god that you've had all these years are two totally different people. allah is your oppressor, Jesus is your love and defender and has no desire whatsoever to punish you. God doesnt punish or damn us, we do it ourselves by our own will. Jesus wants nothing else but for you to be in heaven with Him. He sacrificed Himself for you, what greater sign of love could one ask for? A spouse who had just died to save His loves eternal life wouldnt turn around and abuse her.

    I'll keep you in my prayers. :pray: :pray: :pray:
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

    "We must risk something for God!"~Hernan Cortes


    TEJANO AND PROUD!

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    « Reply #7 on: July 24, 2009, 11:24:41 PM »
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  • Your best weapon in this will probably be to educate yourself about how God really is, so you can dispel any false ideas about Him you may have. Reading good Catholic books about Him should help you at least some.

    I think the image of Him as a perfect father really helps us understand Him though. A father sometimes punishes, is sometimes severe (if the child needs correction) ... but a PERFECT father is one who loves the child tenderly, and wants only what is best for the child. Picture a child being given medicine by it's father. The medicine is bitter, and so the child thinks, "doesn't my father love me?! Why would he make me take this horrible stuff?!" The reality is, even when the "harsh" things come from God, they are like medicine... given out of pure love, and care for the child's true welfare. The child may see only that the medicine is bitter. The father sees, without it, the child may be seriously ill or even die. The father's love is greater in giving the medicine than it would be to withhold it.

    But also there are times when the father gives the child sweet gifts, listens to the child, just loves his child. God doesn't just have ONLY bitter medicine for us, but also sweet things. He is a father, not a tyrant.

    Even people who have not been abused can become scrupulous (wrongly think that just about everything they do is evil or a grave sin) or can come to see this false idea of God as someone ALWAYS angry, ALWAYS punishing. But the truth is that oftentimes such people torture and torment themselves with such thoughts... essentially adding an unbearable weight to the cross God really meant for them, which itself was NOT too heavy.

    In other words, a person may have bad health, for example, and that may be their cross in life. But if that person lets this false image of God take control of them without ever dispelling it, they will torment themselves endlessly with thoughts of hopelessness, fear or worst of all, despair. But the truth is that this latter torment is something we add to our cross. Once we realize that we're being deceived, we must fight to banish those thoughts from us, like any other temptation, and have faith in spite of the darkest feelings that God is truly that sweet and loving father, NOT the picture of a merciless tyrant the devil would present to us and terrorize us with. By reading holy books about how God truly is, or hearing about Him from others, we can form a correct idea of Him, and slowly drive out that hideous, false image from our minds and hearts.

    I also suffer from such problems, and when these ideas come to me, however horrible or tormented I feel, I simply remind myself, "God is not like that". Sometimes, even reminding myself that God understands our weaknesses, and wants to help us overcome them, can help to get past the trial of the moment.

    So if you feel like God is always angry with you, or like you're "oh so rotten" (the devil would rather we think that than let us get anywhere in our spiritual lives), or like God is always angry with you... remind yourself that Jesus is also our Divine Physician. Yes, He sees quite clearly what has gone awry in our souls. BUT... He also desires to help us get better if anything really IS wrong, by helping us kindly with His graces.

    Like a father watching at the bedside of a sick child, He is ever there... even if, in the delirium of our sins we have lost touch with that reality, and no longer can "see Him". He is still there loving us, watching over us, and trying to help us get better. Even if, in the throws of sin, as if in a fever, we kick at Him (by our daily failings or weakness), His love is not extinguished. He knows whether or not we MEANT to offend Him, like a father knows a child out of his or her mind with illness, doesn't mean to be hateful if they lash out unconsciously. Yes, the bitter medicine may come. But also the sweet embraces, the concern over what is happening to us, and the tender affections of the Father and Mother ever trying to help us. Yes, that Father even understands that sometimes a child does hateful and spiteful things, for very foolish reasons... like the child who selfishly defies the parent and runs away from home, and will forgive that child when that child is sorry, realizes their mistake, and comes back to Him.

    God guide you as you try to fight against these temptations to think of God in a distorted way. I know that they can be heavy, and even suffocating. But if God sees you fighting to see Him clearly, I'm sure He will be pleased, even if it takes time for you to fully recover. Some people fight such thoughts their whole lives. But what is important is that we understand with our minds what the truth is, and with our wills we tell ourselves, "This is the truth, and THAT (the wrong picture) is a lie, and I refuse to believe in the lie. I know what is true".

    There are many things in life we cannot help, like a physical handicap, or some circuмstance in our life. But God will not condemn us for the things we couldn't help, such as the temptations we were afflicted with. He will only judge which picture of Him we believed in with our wills, in spite of the horrible feelings... the false one that makes Him into something awful, or the true one... knowing that He is a God of love and of peace and of mercy, no matter what temptations come, or how awful we feel inside about ourselves or our sins.

    This is yet another example of why it is SO important to strengthen our wills. So many times the devil plays with our emotions or our thoughts (with temptations)... but we cannot have, as a foundation of our relationship with God, an ever shifting foundation of sand like our feelings. We need the rock-solid foundation of truth and our will to choose it, to keep our relationship with God proper and firm. Inform yourself about the truth about God and His love and mercy, and when the temptations come, if you cannot dispel them with thinking about the truth, and you feel absolutely helpless against the wrong image of God, then simply turn to Him as a small child would and say to Him, "Lord, I am having these wrong ideas or thoughts, but I refuse them. I know that You are loving and merciful, and I believe in the truth, not in the lie the devil is showing me." If it is all you can do, then simply tell Him that you choose the true picture of Him, and then put your trust in Him that He has heard you, and will be by you, continuing to love you even if you are blinded by that temptation (that is, even if you can't get the thoughts out of your mind, or the feelings out of your heart). Tell Him you reject the lies of the devil. If you reject the temptations, then suffering through them will have good merits for you, and will even strengthen your faith, because of your having to fight all of the time for what is right. You will have chosen the right thing, and fighting for it will only prove your real love for God.

    Let us always try to have the best Faith in Him. Picture if God was physically present in a room with you, but then the lights were turned off, and you could not move to find Him. What would happen? Well, you would KNOW He is there, even if you couldn't see Him or reach Him. We must know God and trust Him, even in the most complete spiritual darkness. Our feelings  or thoughts won't make His infinite goodness change to something else. We must remember that whatever we are tempted to think, or however we feel, the REALITY does not change. Even if we feel completely lost, the REALITY is that God is merciful, that He does love us (enough to suffer and die for us on the cross!) and can, and WOULD (and died to) save us.

    When you learn to recall the reality and place it over your feelings or temptations, the temptations become powerless to do what they were intended by the enemy to accomplish, and can become even a means of grace, as your struggle to do what is right proves to God again and again your faith and love for Him. You may still suffer the thoughts, but if God knows you refuse to believe in those wrong ideas, and that you continue to believe in the right idea of Him, THAT is what is important, even if you keep having the temptations.

    I renounce any and all of my former views against what the Church through Pope Leo XIII said, "This, then, is the teaching of the Catholic Church ...no one of the several forms of government is in itself condemned, inasmuch as none of them contains anythi


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    « Reply #8 on: July 25, 2009, 12:54:21 AM »
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  • Good and beautiful posts everybody! Thank you!
      About Dulcamara's post, I must say sth: I don't know if it is just me who feel so, but I really hate to think of God as a father. I now have convinced myself that the first person of the Holy Trinity is my father (or like a father), but I don't think of the Second Person as a father. It is why I love Jesus 100 times more that I love God the Father.
    The father child relationshup is based on "go out from me!" a father will say to the child to

     GO                     to school
                                             and sleep it is 9 pm
                                     and play with your friends
                                   and build your OWN future
                                 out I want to speak with your mom
                                out I am changing my cloths!
           





    It is for our own good but it is bitter nevertheless, those people who undergo a major amputation know that it was for their own good. but it doesn't mean that amputation is an occasion for happiness or sth desirable.

    You are not your father's first love it is your mom. He doesn't tell his secrets to you, he tells them to your mom. There is no sacrament between him and you. He sends you out when he wants to changes his cloths but he doesn't do that with your mom.

       Jesus please be my everything but don't be my father. I already have 2 fathers one divine one human and it is enough! Be my brother, cousin, friend, lover etc. etc. but not my father please!

    It is why I have this username. You can look at the above "go senteces" and see that a man dosn't say these things to his wife.
    It is a relationship based on come not go!

    come       and prepare my lunch
                                         and sit near me
                                          home early
                                           and tell me what happend
                                           and....
                                          give me thy love!

      So I prefer to be Jesus' slave than his child!