Author Topic: Religious Divisions Between Your Family and Relatives. (Read 1063 times)

Truth is Eternal · « **on:** October 25, 2013, 03:05:29 PM »

There are three distinct divisions in my family, my Parents are Vatican 2, my youngest bother and his wife are Lutheran, and me and my other brother are Traditional Catholic.

I have noticed, my dad and mom are always being careful to not offend my Lutheran brother and his wife, vice versa. This proves to me how divided Vatican 2 Catholics and Lutherans are.

Even though Catholic doctrine has not come up when I was at a family gathering at my parents house, my youngest brother and his wife seem so extremely bothered by me and my brother, they seem to find it unbearable to have family gatherings with us. My mom still wants family gatherings because she wants to believe the family has unity.

On my moms side of the family, my mom and dad are Vatican 2 while at the same time being considered to be too Protestant by three of her Vatican 2 sisters. My moms youngest brother and sister are Traditional Catholic.

Last Sunday we had a get-to-gather at my parents house. After my youngest brother left, my mom needed help with something and it didn't take long and she kicked me out of the house. We got into a discussion and I ended up saying to dad, “If you were more educated you would know this by now”. My mom then got mad at me and then I said, “Dad is more Protestant than Catholic anyway”.

Through all of this I will not back down on Catholic Faith when issues arise.

I hope, “The Warning” happens soon.

Frances · « **Reply #1 on:** October 25, 2013, 03:11:30 PM »

:thinking:
Religion is an unmentionable topic in my family, and it's always been that way.

Matto · « **Reply #2 on:** October 25, 2013, 03:27:06 PM »

Quote from: Truth is Eternal

I hope, “The Warning” happens soon.

What is "The Warning"? Does it have something to do with a private revelation?

Truth is Eternal · « **Reply #3 on:** October 25, 2013, 03:34:55 PM »

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Quote from: Truth is Eternal
I hope, “The Warning” happens soon.

What is "The Warning"? Does it have something to do with a private revelation?

http://3daysofdarkness.com/

Matto · « **Reply #4 on:** October 25, 2013, 03:49:10 PM »

Thank you for posting that link. I believe I saw that website already but I had forgotten about it. It is one of David Hobson's websites.

songbird · « **Reply #5 on:** October 25, 2013, 04:08:56 PM »

I replied to "annulment fiasco" which is what I put up with in my family. My mom and 2 are New Order and the 6 siblings are just lost and all fight me and my husband being traditional. Oh, well, My mom said she is staying and not getting out. And thank God we are in AZ and they are in IN.

Truth is Eternal · « **Reply #6 on:** October 25, 2013, 04:15:42 PM »

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I replied to "annulment fiasco" which is what I put up with in my family. My mom and 2 are New Order and the 6 siblings are just lost and all fight me and my husband being traditional. Oh, well, My mom said she is staying and not getting out. And thank God we are in AZ and they are in IN.

With how marginalized us Traditional Catholics are, we sure bother everybody. On another forum, I have Protestants and Vatican 2 Catholics against me and both groups can't deal with Catholicism and Canons of the Church.

songbird · « **Reply #7 on:** October 25, 2013, 04:56:10 PM »

Maybe there is a word for what I will try to explain: when those of the new order look at you, the traditionalist, with eyes of hate and anger. And for the traditionalist, they see someone who looks at them as if they are above them, or prideful, if you get what I am trying to say.

I had this with my husband when he was in mortal sin, thank God that is over and done with. But at that time he looked at me with such disgust! I felt like he saw me as above him, better than him and it was such a disgust for him, and yet it was because he was in so much sin. When he came out of it, he had no idea of how much hurt that he had caused. I look back on that and I wonder if he even remembered anything that I said that would awaken him!
Or this one: Don't say to much to the kids as to the wrong they are doing, for fear that your words will break the family ties. I think this idea is of the devil. I believe in reproach, but not nagging. We too must face God one day.

Marlelar · « **Reply #8 on:** October 25, 2013, 05:01:09 PM »

I would recommend more tact. You will never convince them of the truth of traditional Catholicism if they perceive you as being on a :soapbox:

Adult children must also be respectful of parents, an apology to your Dad may be in order. Not for standing up for tradition but for insulting his intelligence.

You can plant a seed but cannot make it grow by

If THEY bring up a topic explain the traditional teaching in a matter of fact way but do not antagonize them by calling anyone "uneducated", it's not education they lack but faith, which is a gift from God.

Pray for them. Fast for them. Make sacrifices for their conversion.

Marsha

StCeciliasGirl · « **Reply #9 on:** October 25, 2013, 10:25:52 PM »

Strangely, our family (extended) was a war zone when I was a kid, but now, those of us that are left and our spouses, parents, children, are all mostly on the same page. It's a blessing! My grandmother had cold-quit Rome in the 60s and never looked back; waited for ABL it seems. By the time I came along, she was SSPX, and everyone was at odds and warring. But now, everyone is NOT at odds at all. We're all on the same page. I credit grandma and hope she is seeing this day. It's very heartening.

In that sense, I think division can be good. Be frank, not naggy but frank, and even if people don't hear you immediately, they may have something to fall back on in the future.