Author Topic: Regarding food and expenses. (Read 6548 times)

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #10 on:** September 14, 2010, 11:51:58 AM »

I've been busy schooling and worrying about the primary election, so I've not been here much. I will try to be brief.

First, people complain about how their young daughers are going through puberty early--- that issue is MOSTLY LINKED TO MILK. So when you say you don't worry about the hormones in the milk, then don't complain when your daughter has her period at 8, 9 years old. I'm trying to give solutions, not cause you a headache, cause you to obsess, or cause you to spend more of your hard earned money.

When I warn about the pesticides, if you are not worried about it, then don't complain when one of your children comes down with severe asthma or very bad allergies. Those are two effects of pesticides.

Third: Lots of people complain about illegal immigration. Two reasons why food is cheaper not organic: 1) Illegal immigrants pick it rather than the farmers and their small amount of hired hands themselves, and 2) Government subsidies. Our tax money is going to subsidize the big gigantic farms, and by buying their stuff, you give them more power, and fewer options for yourself. You are casting a vote every time you buy food.

It's not just the health effects we should be concerned about. The people writing the laws as what is GRAS (Generally Regarded As Safe) are the big multinationals that are pushing all these chemicals and genetically altered food.

Every year, in a city south of where I live, the science teacher does an experiment with rats. One group of 3 rats per cage is given genetically modified VEGETABLES, the other is given organic vegetables, for 3 months.

The first group, one of the rats inevitably ends up dead, and they are quite frequently fighting with each other.... hardly normal behavior for rats. The other, acts normally, as rats normally act.

If this experiment illustrates anything about RATS, WHAT could it be telling us about the attitudes of our children.

As the old adage says, "You are what you eat."

Sometimes I can't buy organic. Certain items organically grown are scarce, and very expensive, even when in season. Some things are just completely out of the question because of their cost. You just do what you can do... and it makes it a lot easier if you do it a little at a time. Start with milk, for instance. That's what my parents did, and my dad swore up and down that he couldn't afford organic on his limited income. He does now. He found a way.

God finds a way. Sure, you might not get AS MUCH food as you were getting before, but you learn to mortify yourself by not having as much and getting by with what you CAN get. I mean, you don't starve yourself getting the stuff, but you can manage it if you pay attention and stay within a budget. Get things when they're on sale. I do that especially with granola. You watch out for coupons, and use them when you can. It can be done.

I'm not making a blanket statement. Many probably cannot afford it, but really, most people can afford it. They just have to know how to be creative.

Making a menu for the week is also a good way to be able to control what you spend. Instead of getting mercury laced soda and juices, get organic juices and serve GOOD OLD WATER (FILTERED water, get it in the gallon jugs and refill them at the store if you have a dispenser for reverse osmosis) instead of sugary drinks. Drinks are expensive and unnecessary! Instead of getting MSG laden boxed meals that cause nervous system problems (it's been proven!) get something else. Those conveniences can get expensive too.

Cook in bulk when you can. Freeze things so that you make one meal and you package the leftovers individually, so you can thaw them and spend no time on cooking for a few nights.

Get veggies and fruits when they are in season. And canned stuff is super cheap (even organic stuff is really reasonable.)

The "well something is going to kill you eventually" argument is really tired out. People say that about cigarettes too, and alcohol. This is something you actually need. We know the government is allowing these things to sterilize people, to infect people... They're thinking of adding VACCINES to corn in stealth because of how cheap it is, they can make it into syrup and starch and add it to just about anything! But if you KNOW they're doing this, and you know it's going to affect you (EVEN NEUROLOGICALLY) I don't know how you can NOT try to avoid it.

/endrant

Alexandria · « **Reply #11 on:** September 14, 2010, 11:57:48 AM »

I find people like you tiresome as well, PTF.

Unless you have walked a mile in someone's shoes, don't presume to know what "most people" can and cannot afford.

Would that everyone cared as much for the purity and spotlessness of their souls as they do about the food they eat.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #12 on:** September 14, 2010, 11:58:32 AM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

First, people complain about how their young daughers are going through puberty early--- that issue is MOSTLY LINKED TO MILK. So when you say you don't worry about the hormones in the milk, then don't complain when your daughter has her period at 8, 9 years old. I'm trying to give solutions, not cause you a headache, cause you to obsess, or cause you to spend more of your hard earned money.

Sorry, I don't have time right now to read through your whole post, but wanted to ask about this...
Is growth hormones in milk really that big of a deal TODAY? I would have to HUNT to find milk that doesn't say rbst-free. And, I buy the cheapest milk on the shelf.
Is this only true in this area or is this becoming a remote issue?

CathMomof7 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 14, 2010, 05:36:18 PM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

I'm trying to give solutions, not cause you a headache, cause you to obsess, or cause you to spend more of your hard earned money.

/endrant

No, you are not. In Truth and Charity, I am confronting you. You are overly obsessed with food and the things that are going into your body and you are trying to convince us of the same.

Gluttony: According to the Baltimore Catechism, gluttony involves more than just eating too much. It also involves being overly concerned with our food--complaining because it's not what we want or what we think is "healthy". Obesity falls under this category of course but so does anorexia. Worrying about how many hormones are in our milk or how many pesticides are on our potatoes, in my opinion, is really treading closely here.

We should be more concerned with our souls getting to heaven than with our bodies living on this earth. Of course, I don't mean we should neglect our bodies. On the contrary, that too would be sinful. We are only asked to do the best we can and be responsible. God requires us to make reasonable choices.

If you are eating corn, rice, soybeans, etc. chances are your are eating genetically modified food. So what can you do about it? Quit eating these things or quit thinking about it. Does it really matter anyway?

As for the early puberty in girls....clearly weight is a factor. I was looking at girls yesterday at the elementary school where my 6 y/o daughter has cheerleader practice. They are huge. Why? Because AT LEAST 4 days a week they are eating crap from fast food places. The local Catholic school does not have a hot cafeteria and the children eat from Pizza Hut, Burger King, Subway, and McDonald's. This is promoted upon registration. A few kids pack lunch but most just order out.

Also, chemicals in clothing, plastics, and cleaning products are known to be causing early puberty.

Also, study after study after study links social family roles to early puberty in girls. Girls who have no father at home are KNOWN to go into puberty early. Other stress factors at home are also indicated.

Also, the entire water system is filled with estrogen from birth control pills, antibiotics from the pills we take regularly for infection, and God knows what else from the medications old people pee out in the toilet. My mother takes 3 meds for her anxiety and/or depression, 2 meds for "pain", something to help her sleep and a blood pressure pill. Are we supposed to all boil our water now before we drink it???

Look, I don't mean to offend, but this is obsessive. Is our environment affecting our lives and health? Yes. But we can only do so much.

80% of the world's population lives BELOW the poverty line. BELOW.

If you look at the U.S., 77% of families whose household actually makes more than 60K a year are TWO INCOME FAMILIES. One income families fall between 30K and 50K a year, with about 15% falling below 20K. I can ASSURE you these people are NOT looking for places to by hormone free milk. They are picking up checks at the WIC office.

We live in a technological age. 95% of Americans shop at the supermarket. Very few people know how to grow their own food, can, or bake from scratch. This includes lots of modern Catholics. Our family is just trying to survive.

In case you don't get it yet--we make less than 50K a year.
15% of that income goes to pay our health insurance premiums. 30% goes to pay our mortgage and property taxes (we are lucky). Currently, 12% of our income goes to food.
Almost 50% of our income goes just to pay for 2 things--a roof over our heads and visits to see the Dr. We struggle and the LAST thing I'm going to do is spend twice as much on milk, meat, and vegetables because I'm overly concerned that my tomatoes have pesticides on them and I might develop allergies.

Wanna know what really causes allergies and diseases??? Our inadequate immune systems. We are so concerned these days about what we eat, who we are exposed to, and how clean our kitchen counters are that our bodies can build natural immunity to common bacteria--BECAUSE we AREN'T EXPOSED anymore.

Now, MY rant is over...sorry all.

Emerentiana · « **Reply #14 on:** September 14, 2010, 05:38:14 PM »

Quote from: MaterDominici

Quote from: parentsfortruth
First, people complain about how their young daughers are going through puberty early--- that issue is MOSTLY LINKED TO MILK. So when you say you don't worry about the hormones in the milk, then don't complain when your daughter has her period at 8, 9 years old. I'm trying to give solutions, not cause you a headache, cause you to obsess, or cause you to spend more of your hard earned money.

Sorry, I don't have time right now to read through your whole post, but wanted to ask about this...
Is growth hormones in milk really that big of a deal TODAY? I would have to HUNT to find milk that doesn't say rbst-free. And, I buy the cheapest milk on the shelf.
Is this only true in this area or is this becoming a remote issue?

This may come as a surprise to all of you, but MiLK should be eliminated or sharply curtailed from the diet of children after they get their eye teeth. The old testement people had a weaning ceremony when the child was weaned from the breast. It never drank milk again!
Yes, there are growth hormones in milk that are there for the calf! They are detrimential to a growing body.
No child or adult either.should be drinking glasses of milk. A little in cereal, a little in cooking and coffee......thats it! Will save a bunch on the grocery bill.
Juices should always be diluted beefore serving (1/2 water). The sugar content is to high. They should be drank slowly, and each mouthful swished in the mouth before swallowing.
Good old water is what everyone should be drinking! No one seems to get enough of it.
Drink water or any liquids 20 min before ot 20 min after a meal.......not with the meal. Liquids dilute the digestive juices in the stomach, preventing proper digestion of food.