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Offline spouse of Jesus

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« on: June 30, 2009, 08:37:51 AM »
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  • Is it sinful to read them just for historical information?
    What if their name is not included in the index of prohibbited books?

    For example if the book is about women's spirituality in the whole history and has one or two section about catholic women; do I sin if I read those sections?


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    « Reply #1 on: July 01, 2009, 12:59:05 AM »
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  • I had a similar question about books by Protestant pastors.

    I have a book I bought a long time ago where a Protestant pastor gives advice on success and careers. He works bible stories and faith in God into His advice.

    The negative is that he is a Prot pastor, the positive is that he's not focusing on Prot errors, but giving advice on finding success "God's way". It's more generic Christian advice.

    I'm conflicted on whether to get rid of it, and if I do if it would be moral to sell it, or would I have to trash it?

    Any advice?


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    « Reply #2 on: July 01, 2009, 09:57:53 AM »
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  • The book I want to buy, is a historical one, it is not about the church or faith per se. I really want to read it because this book, focuses on people's ways of mysticism not on how God gave them the grace.
    There is something about catholic books: They so focus on Jesus and His grace, that they forget to write about other people's actions, thoughts and reactions. It is like when sun shines and stars cannot be seen. So if you want to study a star, you must look at it when sun (The Son) is abscent.
    It is why I want to read a book written by a secular author.

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    « Reply #3 on: July 01, 2009, 10:08:24 AM »
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    The book I want to buy, is a historical one, it is not about the church or faith per se. I really want to read it because this book, focuses on people's ways of mysticism not on how God gave them the grace.
    There is something about catholic books: They so focus on Jesus and His grace, that they forget to write about other people's actions, thoughts and reactions. It is like when sun shines and stars cannot be seen. So if you want to study a star, you must look at it when sun (The Son) is abscent.
    It is why I want to read a book written by a secular author.


    Just be wary, remember, the vast majority of publications about spirituality (or about anything that touches on (morality, history, politics, etc) are anti-Catholic, overtly or covertly, even so-called Catholic books are like this, sometimes not even knowing it. (and of course, sometimes they really must know they are anti-Catholics pretending to be Catholic)

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    « Reply #4 on: July 01, 2009, 03:17:21 PM »
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  • The forbidden movie and book lists are basically non-existent now, thanks to the fact that we lack shepherds, but have a vast amount of hirelings that don't care about the salvation of souls.

    Best things to do, imo, is to stick with Catholic authors, that have a good reputation, pre-conciliar or Traditional Catholic.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,


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    « Reply #5 on: July 01, 2009, 03:57:04 PM »
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  • The only reason to read un-Catholic books is to be able to combat the errors in them.  Pius X recommended that approach.  

    But you have to be careful.  Sometimes they infect you while you pretend you are so far above them.  It is always possible for your mind to be gripped by a new, unorthodox idea and carried away.  For this reason the practice can't be recommended.

    No one wants to be the prude who is against ALL movies and ALL rock music and ALL books except St. Jerome and Augustine and other dusty tomes -- but frankly it wouldn't be a bad idea to limit yourself to the essentials, if you can manage it.  
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #6 on: July 01, 2009, 04:21:51 PM »
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  • "There is something about catholic books: They so focus on Jesus and His grace, that they forget to write about other people's actions, thoughts and reactions."

    This is a really good point.  Secular literature has thrived the way it has because too often Catholic literature is abstract and mystical, and I am not sure that mystical experience can really be shared or put into words on a page in a way that is satisfying for the reader.  Mystical experience has to be EXPERIENCED.   Not that Catholics shouldn't write mystical books, or that they shouldn't be a fundamental part of our diet -- just not the whole diet.  

    Humans thirst to share their concrete, real experiences with other humans.  This is why my favorite Catholic author is Augustine, because we know his struggles with the world and can relate to him.  To me he stands head-and-shoulders above any other Catholic writer, even if the idea of the "Confessions" has gotten me in trouble when taken too far.  I also feel Jean Gerson perfectly reconciled the down-to-Earth and mystical elements of Christianity, from what I know about him, though I don't have his works.  

    I often feel curiously empty after reading something like Bonaventure's Journey of the Mind to God with its visions of six-winged angels.  It just doesn't do anything for me.  I'll see six-winged angels in heaven, if I get there.  I want someone to tell me how they conquered sin, how they came to God, their mistakes even after coming to God, their fights with heretics, etc., placing it in a precise historical context that makes their world come alive.  

    The problem is that very few of us appreciate, while we're here, that the mundane details of our everyday lives may one day become very interesting.  But I don't think there will be an Augustine in our time.  Our world today is truly alien and fantastic and no book today could contain all of its contradictions and disasters except the book written by God.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #7 on: July 01, 2009, 09:22:33 PM »
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  • Read the lives of the Saints, autobiography of St. Teresa of Avila, St. Alphonsus, sermons of the Cure d'Ars, and most importantly, the one that is most neglected - the Bible. Since you are not a native speaker of English, I think that Aquinas may be a bit to difficult to comprehend.

    You can read other topics if you want, but only in moderation. Its also important for lay persons to have hobbies, to relax our minds and refresh our souls, so that we can serve God with all our whole being afterwards. I've found playing instruments the best and safest (because no occasions of sin) way to do this.


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    « Reply #8 on: July 26, 2009, 10:37:24 PM »
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  •   So is it sinful or not?

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    « Reply #9 on: July 26, 2009, 11:22:14 PM »
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  • No, only if it is an occasion of sin or has immoral content. It is sometimes a waste of time though. As I said, in moderation, most things are not sinful.



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    « Reply #10 on: July 27, 2009, 02:42:48 AM »
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  •  Thank you!
    BTW, who is the man in your signature? I don't know why, but he looks very familiar!


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    « Reply #11 on: July 27, 2009, 02:54:48 AM »
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    Thank you!
    BTW, who is the man in your signature? I don't know why, but he looks very familiar!


    Fr. Francis Xavier Truong Buu Diep. He was a priest during the war in Viet Nam. He chose to remain with his flock despite the diocese offering to relocate him. He was then martyred.

    He said:

    "Tôi sống giữa đoàn chiên và nếu có chết cũng giữa đoàn chiên. Tôi không đi đâu hết."

    "I have lived among my flock, and if I die, I shall die among my flock. I will not go anywhere"