Some of it might have to do with the parents' attitudes, but the bigger part, I surmise, has to do with the daughters hanging around worldlings ... which, again, is due to parents' neglect.  Girls are lemmings, and if their friends are into boys, then so will they be.  If their popular peers have to have a certain phone, or outfit, or like a certain boy, then they too absolutely must follow suit.  They are more influenced by their peers than their parents.  By the time they're in their teens, they like to distance themselves from their parents, are embarrassed by them, etc.  They are absolutely driven by a need for social status ... as defined by their peers.  Women/girls tend to go after boys who have had many girlfriends ... because they would in winning the boy over prove their superiority over their rivals ... whereas boys/men would prefer girls/women who have not been around the block or were somehow intrinsically attractive or beautiful.

Very few men would ever say or think, "I'm really attracted to her because of how popular she is with the boys."?  They see the girl (either her looks or her personality) and either find her attractive or do not find her attractive.  For women, the boy's social status (and wealth) is an almost-intrinsic quality of attractiveness.  Girls DO find themselves attractive to boys for no other reason sometimes than that they are popular.

The Piper at the Gates of Dawn.

ENOUGH discussion about the Pope question. It is off-topic and belongs in the "Crisis in the Church" subforum ONLY.

I think I'll go back in this thread and delete some posts which violate the above rule. See you in a bit.

EDIT: Ok, I'm back.  This is a VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC, much more practical and useful (and hence, important) than the Pope question, which is neither here nor there unless you're a Bishop, cleric or have a special calling. For all of us laymen (which is the majority of CathInfo) we just have to keep the Faith and be Traditional Catholics, completely rejecting Vatican II and its de-facto new religion. Do this, and we have a chance of saving our souls. Do it not, and our souls have a 100X greater chance of losing the Faith and being lost.

The Pope question is a complete red herring for Traditional Catholics. We have much bigger fish to fry, as demonstrated and discussed in this thread! SSPX and other Trad Catholics are losing their sons and daughters to the World and to satan -- but they don't care, as long as they think they have the Pope question figured out! Madness!

I've pointed out many times that Sedevacantism offers zero practical benefit over and above the immense benefits of the Traditional Movement itself. Now whether it causes any harm seems to be open for debate.

I personally go so far as to say that the exact nature of the Crisis in the Church is a bona fide supernatural mystery, one that literally can't be known, achieved or grasped by human reason alone, without the aid of Divine Revelation -- and God hasn't revealed it yet! That is to say, if all the best minds and theologians in Tradition got together for a 1-month conference, they wouldn't be able to figure out the Crisis in the Church, unless God joined their little conference.

This is my perspective, as one who has been in the actual Traditional movement for over 4 decades.

If you want to discuss these points, please head to a new thread I've created for this purpose. This thread needs to stay on topic -- it's a broad and rich enough topic already, I assure you!

https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/the-crisis-in-the-church-is-a-supernatural-mystery/

I was at some ones house for rosary and a meal.  The young ones including girls who were home schooled and attend Traditional Mass don’t want to pray.   I was shocked that one girl had a mannish hair cut with colored hair.  It’s like they are rebelling.  They later left to go to movies.  Some of these young girls lack domestic skills.  Go to trad chapel functions in our area and it’s usually older people doing everything.  Yes, young girls act immature and lazy.    I was upset to see an older gentleman shoveling snow instead of a young man at once chapel.  I was shocked when a trad girl went on a trip with her boyfriend.  The biggest problem is the internet, tv and cell phones.  
  

LastTradhican said:
The girls (and their mothers) are/were boy crazy because they have no self esteem, and they gauge their sense of self worth, their beauty, from the reaction they get from boys/men.
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Ladislaus said:
I disagree.  They gauge their self-worth, etc. based on the perception of their female peers.  Boys in fact are often mere pawns in this exercise.  If they get a cute/popular boy, then they feel superior to their female peers and gain social status.  Half the time the boy himself is an after-thought.
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I think you 2 are both correct.  It depends on the woman/girl.  Just like some men are motivated by money, some by love, some by power, and some by fun...so women are motivated in different ways too.  And at different times in their life.

You are correct. We are all three correct.  

The key is that "they have no self esteem, they gauge their self-worth, etc. based on the perception of others". Parents must work to develop the self esteem of their daughters while they are little, and nip this "he's so cute, he's my crush" at the bud. Unfortunately at my chapel only like two families have done it. The rest are in line for the next out of wedlock pregnancy.

It's not just feminists that say "women are competitive with each other for status". This is dogma in MGTOW and "red-pill" anti-feminist circles. And those circles are 100% men.