Author Topic: Radical Action (Read 1742 times)

John Grace · « **on:** July 13, 2013, 12:58:26 PM »

It's the only way forward. A short time ago, I asked a religious sister as to why their order hasn't supported a picket outside the office of a politician yet she herself was photographed with same politician in a newspaper. She claimed she wasn't aware of the picket.

I told her bluntly these treasonous politicians would have the likes of her machine gunned in the street. The religious orders have only themselves to blame if they don't take a stand.

What is certain with this abortion bill in Ireland, the lobbyist has been confined to the dustbin of history and radical Catholics must step forward.

Sigismund · « **Reply #1 on:** July 14, 2013, 04:26:50 PM »

Indeed.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #2 on:** July 15, 2013, 02:03:40 AM »

Quote from: John Grace

It's the only way forward. A short time ago, I asked a religious sister as to why their order hasn't supported a picket outside the office of a politician yet she herself was photographed with same politician in a newspaper. She claimed she wasn't aware of the picket.

I told her bluntly these treasonous politicians would have the likes of her machine gunned in the street. The religious orders have only themselves to blame if they don't take a stand.

What is certain with this abortion bill in Ireland, the lobbyist has been confined to the dustbin of history and radical Catholics must step forward.

We have the same problem here in USA. "Nuns on Bus" was on stage with Obama where they booed God at Democratic National Convention. Then they came to our area on Feast of Corpus Christi under false social justice. When The Pope stepped down, they were on CNN pushing feminism of women priests. The main one avoided question about being prolife. Not one peep from any prolife group when these modernist nuns visited.

They have been over the local news newspapers and radio.
It wAs unusual when local tradz never heard of them. We should not remain silent.

B Fellay is the least of our problems.

John Grace · « **Reply #3 on:** July 15, 2013, 06:03:01 AM »

What motivated me to enquire at the convent was after a conversation with a girl,whom I know. She was demoralised that no local people joined the pro-life protest outside the office of the politician. She had two others with her. None were local people. This was the day after the vote on abortion. There is a general apathy towards politicians in Ireland.

I thought I should enquire at the convent as I remembered one of the sisters photographed with two politicians, who voted for abortion. To be fair, the photograph was before the vote and in the context of a heritage group evening. There were others in the photograph too. The nun is a historian and written several books.

Her order are around since 1831 and whilst I didn't want to patronise here, I reminded her of who the enemies of Catholics are.

When I called the politicians "pro-abortion" politicians, she said we shouldn't judge or label. Both have recently voted for abortion.

To be fair, she was pleasant and said she had written to the politicians on the issue.

She may or may not join the pickets in future. She is aware of it and up to her.

Whilst I did say to her, her order helped to ruin the schools and the Church, the enemy would think nothing of shooting us down in the streets.

It's up to her order but whilst dying out any ways, they need to fight back.

John Grace · « **Reply #4 on:** July 15, 2013, 06:05:43 AM »

To be fair, there were religious sisters and priests at the recent pro-life rally in Dublin.

In one parish, a Diocesan priest told his congregation, that you can't be for Christ and be for abortion. He reminded them of where the door is. He basically said get out.

John Grace · « **Reply #5 on:** July 15, 2013, 06:11:41 AM »

Though we must be charitable when it seems others are not doing anything to help.

John Grace · « **Reply #6 on:** July 15, 2013, 06:18:26 AM »

I remember when I joined a sit-in at a university. We took a vote on how security or the Garda/Police would remove us. Everybody voted to lie on the floor and have to be dragged out. In the end no security or Garda/Police arrived to do that.

Later that evening, the head of campus security and another enjoyed a beer with some of the pro-life activists. It was the evening when abortion survivor,Gianna Jessen was famously locked out from a room in an Irish university and had to speak to hundreds in a corridor.Guess who called security!!! The college pro-life society!

Each action or event varies and one you play by ear.

John Grace · « **Reply #7 on:** July 15, 2013, 06:28:16 AM »

Whilst there are differences in strategy and even the "pro-life movement" in Ireland split, there is renewed interest in "radical action". It's the only way forward. Prayer and Direct Action.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #8 on:** July 15, 2013, 07:24:32 AM »

Quote from: John Grace

What motivated me to enquire at the convent was after a conversation with a girl,whom I know. She was demoralised that no local people joined the pro-life protest outside the office of the politician. She had two others with her. None were local people. This was the day after the vote on abortion. There is a general apathy towards politicians in Ireland.

I thought I should enquire at the convent as I remembered one of the sisters photographed with two politicians, who voted for abortion. To be fair, the photograph was before the vote and in the context of a heritage group evening. There were others in the photograph too. The nun is a historian and written several books.

Her order are around since 1831 and whilst I didn't want to patronise here, I reminded her of who the enemies of Catholics are.

When I called the politicians "pro-abortion" politicians, she said we shouldn't judge or label. Both have recently voted for abortion.

To be fair, she was pleasant and said she had written to the politicians on the issue.

She may or may not join the pickets in future. She is aware of it and up to her.

Whilst I did say to her, her order helped to ruin the schools and the Church, the enemy would think nothing of shooting us down in the streets.

It's up to her order but whilst dying out any ways, they need to fight back.

You weren't judging or labeling. It is fact. These politicians are pro Abortion. And these nuns who had their picture taken with them know it because they Are liberals.

Back on the other side of pond we had novus ordo priest go to national dAy of prayer breakfast where a pro abortion, pro ѕυιcιdє, "Catholic" politician gave an invocation. there were other clergy from various religions. Mostly Protestants and so called catholic.

I called him up and told him that it was a sin against God to even attend. I informed about the politician. Of course I wAs polite. I also reminded that was no priest shortage and recently the diocese spent 20,000 US dollars to a firm to learn that many in the diocese don't know the Catholic faith and believe that Jesus sinned while on earth.

These people are not just pro abortion but they are not catholic

Obama came to Ireland to end Catholicism by attacking Catholics and their schools in Ireland and Scotland.

In America. It was liberal Jesuits who started his career. It was Dolan nuns on the Bus and novus ordo liberal Catholics who voted two times for him.

The liberal no bishops are helping the enemies of Christ with Vatican 2 sex abuse. Church and school seminaries built by the original traditional Irish Catholics.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #9 on:** July 15, 2013, 07:27:21 AM »

That is Obama can count on these no bishops to close down churches and schools built by the original traditional catholics

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #10 on:** July 15, 2013, 07:30:33 AM »

Those "prolife" vote and support pro abortion.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #11 on:** July 15, 2013, 07:34:41 AM »

Also the prolife movement has become a religion and business in itself. A lot of money.

We are Catholics. It is the Social reign of Jesus Christ.

John Grace · « **Reply #12 on:** July 15, 2013, 07:46:29 AM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey

Also the prolife movement has become a religion and business in itself. A lot of money.

We are Catholics. It is the Social reign of Jesus Christ.

I agree. I stated many times I don't favour the term "pro-life movement" and feel it has become a brand or a means to launch a political career or a new book.

At the all night prayer vigil in Dublin it was SSPX laity, who mentioned the Social Reign of Christ during the rosary.

Here in Ireland, the pro-life groups have started to borrow the phrases and slogans from America. We don't need these slogans.Everyone, regardless of religion is part of this global movement for life.

Remarkable in the land of St Patrick, Fr Denis Fahey, Fr Edward Cahill and so many more.

What I am experiencing among this "pro-life movement" is more people are turning to the writings of Fr Fahey, picking up a copy of 'Action' by Ousset or "Catholic Action" by Liam Connolly.

A new type of Catholic militant is emerging from the sugary "we are pro-life generation". These people by and large are well intentioned but people want something a bit more counter cultural, counter revolutionary and radical.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #13 on:** July 15, 2013, 07:47:15 AM »

The nun having her picture taken with pro abortion politician during secular event knows what she is doing. When people see that picture it is sublimal message that it is ok for Catholics to vote for this guy.

Back on the other side of the pond we have b. Timothy Dolan hanging out at national democratic convention with Obama. The there is black tie al smith dinner where Dolan is partying with Obama and Romney. This sends Catholics that it is ok to support and vote for these anti catholic politicians.

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John Grace · « **Reply #14 on:** July 15, 2013, 07:54:41 AM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey

The nun having her picture taken with pro abortion politician during secular event knows what she is doing. When people see that picture it is sublimal message that it is ok for Catholics to vote for this guy.

Back on the other side of the pond we have b. Timothy Dolan hanging out at national democratic convention with Obama. The there is black tie al smith dinner where Dolan is partying with Obama and Romney. This sends Catholics that it is ok to support and vote for these anti catholic politicians.

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Dolan recommended the church in Ireland clean up its act and visited a few years ago. I didn't read their findings but a clean up of National seminary was urged. For many here, he is brilliant pro-life fellow. A load of nonsense in reality. Isn't Dolan a great friend of Freemasons and Jєωs.