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Pro-life minister has no plans to resign
« on: May 05, 2013, 10:03:55 AM »
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  • I don't vote so never kept on the 'pro-life reservation'. I'm not represented by these political parties and parliamentary democracy is a total sham. What I do agree with is showing the truth of abortion to the face of the politician though in reality they know well what abortion is all about.


    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/prolife-minister-has-no-plans-to-resign-29242966.html
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    OHN DRENNAN – 05 MAY 2013

    Fine Gael European Affairs Minister Lucinda Creighton has revealed that she has no immediate plans to resign on the government's proposed abortion legislation – saying that "90 per cent of the bill is fine".

    But she also warned that she still had "difficulties on the issue of ѕυιcιdє", given that "the clear view of the vast majority of psychiatrists in the country that abortion is not an appropriate treatment where a woman is suicidal".

    Speaking to the Sunday Independent, Ms Creighton said that one of her political roles was to "defend a culture of life from as strong a political position as I can".

    But she did warn that "the Aodhan O Riordains of this world are not going to go away you know", which signals future inter-party strife for the Coalition.

    "My view is that there is a proposal, there is a process to be gone through, there is a long way to go and I intend to engage fully in the process."

    And in an indication of the depth of the division in the Coalition, Ms Creighton, referring to the taped conversation of Mr O Riordain, said: "I found it unnerving, the manner in which he appeared to celebrate the fact that their opponents were dying off. The death of political opponents is an extraordinary thing to celebrate."

    The Minister, however, also made it clear that she "completely supports" guidelines for the medical profession and for women.

    "I am not a purist on this issue, people should not be criminalised or prosecuted for doing what they must do to save the lives of women. We have to give certainty to women, where they will know their rights" she said, adding: "the last thing that is needed is some Tribunal of Witch-finder Generals checking to see if doctors are conforming to the law."

    Ms Creighton expressed strong support for a sunset clause or a formal mandatory review, noting that "the consequences of this legislation are long lasting".

    But in an indication of her feelings on the legislation, she said that "life doesn't begin or end with holding on to political office. I love my job, I really do – but I'm not in politics to merely climb the greasy pole."

    Ms Creighton also noted of a Taoiseach – with whom she has had an occasionally tempestuous relationship – that "Enda has been really strong; he has displayed a real empathy for people's concerns. He has listened and recognised it is an emotive subject'.'

    She said that is being "eviscerated" by female journalists "because my views are not ones they find acceptable for a female member of the Oireachtas''.

    The Minister, who is seen as being to the right of the party on economic issues, also backed the intervention by the President Michael D Higgins in the austerity debate. "We have to respect people with intellect. You only learn by listening''.

    In a separate homily, Bishop Brendan Leahy of Limerick said that Irish society is faced with a serious choice.

    "For the sake of the common good, Catholics need to propose their view on this topic.

    "We do so not to impose some obscure teaching of our own but rather to respectfully offer what we consider a reasoned position echoed by many with other religious or indeed non-religious convictions," he said.

    Irish Independent


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    Pro-life minister has no plans to resign
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  • http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/government-rift-widens-as-rebels-dig-in-on-abortion-29242965.html
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    Government rift widens as rebels dig in on abortion
    Church warnings intensify concern in Fine Gael

    JOHN DRENNAN AND DANIEL MCCONNELL – 05 MAY 2013

    Divisions and tensions within Government over the abortion legislation have escalated after the intervention of the Catholic bishops, with both sides now targeting the upcoming committee hearings to make amendments to the controversial bill agreed last week, the Sunday Independent can reveal.

    Taoiseach Enda Kenny has been warned by rebels on the Fine Gael pro-life wing of the party that "the war is not yet over" when it comes to the Government's proposal to legislate for the X Case. And Labour TDs and senators are adamant this weekend that no further restrictions would be tolerated saying that the expert group recommendations represent for them a "bottom line".

    Senator Ivana Bacik said this weekend that the recommendations of the expert group, contained in the new bill, represent a "bottom line" for the Labour party and members are adamant that no undoing of that will be allowed to happen.

    "Yes, that is our bottom line. It would be really very hard to accept any further restrictions that might be put into the final draft that would be very hard to accept."

    She added: "The health committee hearings will be very useful in teasing out some of the practical details, but it wouldn't be acceptable to see extra restrictions put in. I think the heads provide us with the evidence-based procedures set out in the expert group, but putting in any extra restrictions wouldn't work."

    In the wake of the parliamentary party meeting, Fine Gael ministers and the Taoiseach believed the revolt had been quelled, with the exception of two or three TDs.

    However, rebel TDs believed that between 10 to 15 TDs are still prepared to lose the party whip unless their concerns are met on a variety of issues.

    "While they may not be willing to vote in the Dail against the Government, they certainly are prepared to vote for a motion at the parliamentary party meeting. This is not over," said one TD.

    A number of FG TDs remain anxious to ''issue a sunset clause or a variation of that''.

    Outside of Peter Mathews, Terence Flanagan, John O'Mahony and James Bannon, it is believed that Galway West TD Brian Walsh still has significant difficulties. Others who are still not convinced include John Paul Phelan, Damien English, the two Wicklow TDs Billy Timmins and Andrew Doyle, and European Affairs Minister Lucinda Creighton.

    In an interview with this newspaper, Ms Creighton signalled ongoing difficulties over the vexed issue of ѕυιcιdє.

    She said 90 per cent of the legislation was satisfactory but she retained concerns over the issue of ѕυιcιdє given that "the clear view of the vast majority of psychiatrists in the country is that abortion is not an appropriate treatment where a woman is suicidal".

    In an indication of ongoing tensions within Fine Gael, Senator Fidelma Healy Eames has slammed the refusal by the Oireachtas Health Committee examining the Government's proposals to accede to her ''formal request'' that ''women who have experienced abortions are invited to give testimonies at the upcoming Oireachtas health hearings on Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill''.

    The senator suggested ''ideally this should include women from both sides of the argument, women who regret and women who do not regret their decisions''.

    The silent concerns of up to 15 Fine Gael TDs is likely to be intensified by the strong warning from the head of the Catholic Church that TD's have a "solemn duty" to oppose laws that attack the sacredness of life. Cardinal Brady also said that the Government's Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill had "potentially menacing implications" for all Catholic institutions and expression of religious freedoms.

    Sources within Fine Gael said the intervention by the church would ''seriously harden the positions of those who are uneasy''.

    And yesterday in Knock, Cardinal Brady kept up the pressure, saying in his introduction to Mass for the national day of prayer for life: "We live in a twilight sort of world where, unfortunately, the perception of the seriousness of abortion has grown progressively obscured in the minds of many of our contemporaries.

    "In this Mass we pray for courage – the kind of courage that is needed to look the truth in the eye and to call it as it is, without yielding to self-deception or bowing to convenient compromise, scrupulously avoiding ambiguous language which cloaks the true horror of the situation and reduces its seriousness in public," the Cardinal said.

    Irish Independent