And as Catholic , is that you can impose whatever requirement you wish on a future marriage partner. I, for one, do not deny you that right. You also have the right to remain sileng single.
Catholic men have an obligation to protect their good names. Catholic men as a class have that obligation. That means not allowing themselves to be treated as fools. If so-called "trad" women and their parents think that marriage is something (when they know that they are meant to be married) that they put off until they're "more mature" or "ready," then they should realize that Catholic men are not as naive as they think, and that they should forget about self-respecting Catholic men from wanting to marry them.
But other men have other "requirements" based on their own personal situation.
Every sane man requires a wife who will be chaste and faithful. Who will fulfill her duties as a wife. Otherwise he is being foolish to marry such a woman.
Their requirements might be a bit more flexible, and as a result many of them will achieve marriage.
And many of them will marry badly. They will have not committed for better, but for worse.
You might stick to your guns, but might also be single for life. That's a distinct possibility.
I'm not worried about it, though you seem to be. I would hope someone like
you would tell someone it's better not to marry than to marry badly.
And it would be better not to marry lukewarm "trad" women whose clocks are ticking than marry foolishly, risk divorce, and deal with meddlesome, overbearing and insufferable in-laws.
If that does happen, you will likely become *very* bitter about it. I know I would in your position, if I followed that course.
What I'm bitter about are so-called Trads who think they have the right to disrespect trad men with honorable intentions.
Anyhow, all you can conclude in this thread is that Telesphorus will never marry a woman like this. You can't speak for any other men.
I can speak for all men who aren't behaving foolishly. All men who don't marry aging, desperate women who are at the end of the line for their chance to marry, who turned down suitors when they were younger, and who likely have not likely preserved themselves for their husbands. It is foolish behavior, in most cases, to marry such a woman.
We know this touches on a sore spot for you, but we're all (including you) going to have to move on, as we've tried "talking sense" to you for a long time. You're very philosophical, and perhaps correct about your ideals, but how you apply those ideals to the real world might very well leave you single.
What I know now is to not trust most "trads," believe they really want a traditional family life and courtship for their daughters, or think that the vast majority desire the best for young Catholic men, or fear that their daughters might be ruined as wives if they aren't careful. No, it seems most "trad" parents see the young trad man with a job as a pack mule for their daughter to weigh down, and who should thank his lucky stars for the opportunity
You will never accept that perhaps you will never get to experience married life with a young, untouched, attractive bride.
You mean if I don't marry?
That must seem very unfair to you. But you know what? There are many beautiful and wonderful things that I (and all of us here on CathInfo) will probably die before experiencing.
Thank God this life isn't all there is. I guess I'll just have to shoot for Heaven for my happiness...
I'm not worried about it. What depresses me about most so-called trads, and what makes me sit here and argue, was the belief that most of them were really trying to act in Christian charity. I no longer have that illusion.
Now that I no longer put my trust or think to rely on such people, I do not fear the difficulties I might encounter.
It's the betrayal that stings.
The reality that most trads are liberal and will be liberal (no matter how they play dress up and role play), and that they are more about liberal values than about Catholic morality. That stings.
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