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Offline cassini

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Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
« Reply #255 on: March 23, 2022, 08:52:36 AM »
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  • With all the debate about papal infallibility - surely no one is attaching this infallibility to the upcoming consecration of Russia? There is no Church teaching involved in this. Fatima was an apparition and the request was told to the world by one of the three children who heard this request. If nothing happens then it has no reflection on the Catholic Church or faith. 

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #256 on: March 23, 2022, 10:09:49 AM »
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  • God has the power to bring peace to believers of “nations” who repent of their many mortal sins. God is in control. Not man.  Not any man. 

    Nations are mentioned often. One global religion of self worship or one global government of non believers is of the devil.  Our world will be destroyed thanks to Sodom and Gomorrah people, if they don’t stop worshipful themselves and pagan gods and goddesses.

    May God bless you and keep you


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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #257 on: March 23, 2022, 11:02:25 AM »
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  • With all the debate about papal infallibility - surely no one is attaching this infallibility to the upcoming consecration of Russia? There is no Church teaching involved in this. Fatima was an apparition and the request was told to the world by one of the three children who heard this request. If nothing happens then it has no reflection on the Catholic Church or faith.

    I doubt it.  Something like this would not be the object of infallibility.  Now, if Bergoglio WERE TO perform the consecration correctly and nothing happened (or things got worse), that would be a very clear sign that he's no pope.

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    Pray for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #259 on: March 23, 2022, 12:29:49 PM »
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  • if Bergoglio WERE TO perform the consecration correctly and nothing happened (or things got worse), that would be a very clear sign that he's no pope.

    >and nothing happened (or things got worse)
    my friend the era of peace will come out of the chastisement.  it's going to get much, much worse.  there's no changing the hearts and minds of billions of people.  only through the tempest of fire famine and plague will hearts and minds change.

    i expect ww3 regardless of the validity of the consecration; yet without the consecration Russia will not convert.  either way you skin it, the world is about to get wrecked
    perestroika was a deception, a pokazuka
    and Israel is a soviet satellite state


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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #260 on: March 23, 2022, 12:59:48 PM »
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  • Worth a listen again [1 hr 23 min]
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #261 on: March 23, 2022, 01:51:57 PM »
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  • my friend the era of peace will come out of the chastisement.  it's going to get much, much worse.  there's no changing the hearts and minds of billions of people.  only through the tempest of fire famine and plague will hearts and minds change.

    i expect ww3 regardless of the validity of the consecration; yet without the consecration Russia will not convert.  either way you skin it, the world is about to get wrecked

    Oh, I agree.  I believe that it'll be at the height of the chastisement, when all appears lost, that the consecration will take place, and then the miracle of Our Lady's intercession will be so evident that the whole world will have to recognize her, and will convert to the Catholic Church.

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #262 on: March 23, 2022, 04:01:02 PM »
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  • Louie V has yet another article about the upcoming "consecration", this time dissecting it to show it's Modernist core.

    https://akacatholic.com/official-march-25-text-unprayable-what-to-do/


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    The text of the so-called consecration prayer is loaded with Bergoglian-Globalist buzzwords and phrases. For example:
    – We have disregarded the commitments we made as a community of nations.
    – We have betrayed … the hopes of the young.
    – We thought only of our own nations and their interests.
    – We stopped being our neighbour’s keepers and stewards of our common home.
    – Our heavenly Father, who desires us to be brothers and sisters. (Tutti Fratelli anyone?)
    – In our own day … fraternity has faded.
    Every one of these assertions would fit comfortably into the rhetoric of the United Nations and the World Economic Forum. Surprising? Of course not.

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    There is no need whatsoever for Our Lady to inspire human projects (one thinks of Agenda 2030 and the Great Reset for example). The only project that can possibly reconcile God with man, and men with one another, has been given in the Divine Commission, and it is this alone that will initiate the reign of Christ the King, thus bringing peace to the world! 

    Indeed, the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary as requested by Our Lady of Fatima will act as a catalyst toward Our Lord’s reign, but it is a mistake – an unfortunately common one, even among so-called traditionalists – to imagine that the consecration is something of a substitute for the mission given to the Church by the Risen Christ nearly two-thousand years ago. It is not.
    Agreed.

    And he offers a good counter to the Modernist insult to be offered to Our Lady:

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    It seems to me that it would be foolish and self-defeating for us to imagine that we are somehow honoring Our Lady of Fatima, or Catholic tradition more generally, by ignoring the momentousness of this occasion when millions of people around the world will be crying out at once to the Blessed Virgin Mary, Mediatrix of All Graces, for her maternal protection.

    We should, therefore, join our voices to theirs, but in a way that uncompromisingly reflects the one true Faith, taking into account the bitter reality of our present situation.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #263 on: March 23, 2022, 09:08:09 PM »
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  • Fr. Hesse mentioned this in his talk:
    https://novusordowatch.org/fatima-true-third-secret/

    If the Church Secret does indeed (and I'm certain that it does) discuss an evil/wicked Council, then that's proof that the V2 papal claimants were infiltrators.  They read the Third Secret and deliberately suppressed it.  That means that they are intentionally promoting the evils of the Council.

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #264 on: March 23, 2022, 09:18:34 PM »
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    to imagine that the consecration is something of a substitute for the mission given to the Church by the Risen Christ nearly two-thousand years ago. It is not.

    Sorry, but what is Verrecchio babbling about?  NOBODY believes that it's a "substitute for the mission given to the Church".  Nevertheless, it's obvious that the Church is in eclipse, and it'll take the intercession of Our Blessed Mother to bring it out of that eclipse.  This has the same tone as the NO babbling where they diminish the role of Our Blessed Mother.

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    It seems to me that it would be foolish and self-defeating for us to imagine that we are somehow honoring Our Lady of Fatima, or Catholic tradition more generally, by ignoring the momentousness of this occasion when millions of people around the world will be crying out at once to the Blessed Virgin Mary, Mediatrix of All Graces, for her maternal protection.

    We should, therefore, join our voices to theirs, but in a way that uncompromisingly reflects the one true Faith, taking into account the bitter reality of our present situation.

    This is trash too.  He just finished going through how this prayer is not Catholic, and so the intention of the entire day is not Catholic.  As such, it's offensive to God and an insult to Our Lady.  We should not associate with non-Catholic intentions.  So in honor Our Lady we're going to join in a spirit of Ecuмenism here just because many people are "crying out at once" to the Blessed Virgin.  They're crying out for the wrong thing and for the wrong reasons.  That's like saying, "There's a worldwide day of prayer where the entire world will be crying out to Our Lady that everyone should get the jab." and claim that we sould participate.  This is subjectivist sentimental tripe, surprising from the pen of Verrecchio.  He's getting caught up in the Novus Ordo sentimentality about this day, which is actually cover for the fact that this is NOT what Our Blessed Mother asked for.  To someone unite ourselves to this thing is to unite with Beroglio's non-Catholic intention.  It's not about people "crying out".  It's about WHAT they are crying out for.

    I for one intend on that day to conscrate my family to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, in reparation for the blasphemies to which she is subjected, including those from one Jorge Bergoglio.  Over my family is the limit of my "authority".  This will be an anti-Bergoglian consecration and will not be united to his Globalist prayer of petition for peace.

    I'm very disappointed in Verrecchio.  He's usually on target but he's floundered badly here.

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #265 on: March 23, 2022, 09:24:54 PM »
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  • I for one intend on that day to conscrate my family to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, in reparation for the blasphemies to which she is subjected, including those from one Jorge Bergoglio.  Over my family is the limit of my "authority".  This will be an anti-Bergoglian consecration and will not be united to his Globalist prayer of petition for peace.
    That's not at all what I got out of it. I'm pretty sure what you're planning on doing is exactly what he was calling Catholics to do. Not to join in with Bergoglio's intentions or New-church. You yourself are "joining your voice" to those with the Catholic Faith in petitioning Our Mother's intercession contra the "Bergoglian-Globalists"

    Hence why he ends his article with:
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    That said, I would invite you to join me in including – with the Bergoglian-Globalists in mind – the following imprecatory prayer of the Psalmist, inspired by the Holy Ghost: 

    But as for me in the multitude of thy mercy, I will come into thy house; I will worship towards thy holy temple, in thy fear. Conduct me, O Lord, in thy justice: because of my enemies, direct my way in thy sight. For there is no truth in their mouth; their heart is vain. Their throat is an open sepulchre: they dealt deceitfully with their tongues: judge them, O God. Let them fall from their devices: according to the multitude of their wickedness cast them out: for they have provoked thee, O Lord. But let all them be glad that hope in thee: they shall rejoice for ever, and thou shalt dwell in them. And all they that love thy name shall glory in thee: For thou wilt bless the just. O Lord, thou hast crowned us, as with a shield of thy good will.  (Psalms 5:8-13)

    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #266 on: March 23, 2022, 09:26:43 PM »
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  •  The Act of Consecration will be in the context of a Celebration of Penance (whatever that may be!) to be held at Saint Peter’s Basilica at 5:00 p.m. Rome time, 12 NOON EST/EDT.  The Act itself will take place about 6:30 p.m. Rome time, 1:30 p.m EST/EDT.

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #267 on: March 23, 2022, 09:59:33 PM »
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  • Another possibility is that something that appears to be a great peace, a great miracle, does happen (by globalist/diabolical design) and many Catholics and non-Catholics are then deceived into following after either Bergoglio or his "successor."
    please pray for me

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #268 on: March 24, 2022, 04:24:25 AM »
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  • That's not at all what I got out of it. I'm pretty sure what you're planning on doing is exactly what he was calling Catholics to do. Not to join in with Bergoglio's intentions or New-church. You yourself are "joining your voice" to those with the Catholic Faith in petitioning Our Mother's intercession contra the "Bergoglian-Globalists"

    Hence why he ends his article with:
    Yes, this is how I took Louie's comments as well.  Any bishop that prays the anti-consecration in union with the apostate Bergoglio shows their true colors.

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #269 on: March 24, 2022, 05:55:53 AM »
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  • “If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land” (2 Chronicles 7:14).
    May God bless you and keep you