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Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
« Reply #165 on: March 18, 2022, 10:47:34 PM »
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  • I've been informed that even a Resistance bishop, Bp. Tomás de Aquino, is going to "consecrate" with Bergoglio. That's kinda funny, even more because Bp. Tomás de Aquino refused to sing Te Deum along members of the SSPX some time ago for occasion of Benedict XVI doing something. Ironic.
    𝖅𝖊𝖑𝖔 𝖟𝖊𝖑𝖆𝖙𝖚𝖘 𝖘𝖚𝖒 𝖕𝖗𝖔 𝕯𝖔𝖒𝖎𝖓𝖔 𝕯𝖊𝖔 𝖊𝖝𝖊𝖗𝖈𝖎𝖙𝖚𝖚𝖒.

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #166 on: March 18, 2022, 11:43:42 PM »
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  • I've been informed that even a Resistance bishop, Bp. Tomás de Aquino, is going to "consecrate" with Bergoglio. That's kinda funny, even more because Bp. Tomás de Aquino refused to sing Te Deum along members of the SSPX some time ago for occasion of Benedict XVI doing something. Ironic.
    Any idea if Bishop Williamson and other Resistance bishops are going to join in with this consecration?


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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #167 on: March 19, 2022, 06:21:52 AM »
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  • Any idea if Bishop Williamson and other Resistance bishops are going to join in with this consecration?
    Well, he wrote this at the bottom of his latest EC:

    What remains to us is to pray to Our Lady of Fatima – “Only I can help you now” – to obtain for us the mitigation of the now inevitable Chastisement. She has wonderful plans for the future of Russia, as soon as the Catholic Pope and bishops perform its long requested Consecration to her Immaculate Heart.

    But who does he think is "the Catholic Pope"? 

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #168 on: March 19, 2022, 06:44:16 AM »
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  • Suppose for a minute that the consecration is done with the pope and all of the bishops, let's say it is all done perfectly and validly - what are the events in the Church and world that you think might occur afterwards?

    Personally I have no clue and don't spend much time thinking about it, but it would seem to me one of the first events might be that a purgation of biblical proportions would be necessary, which will mean a lot of bƖσσdshɛd in both the Church and the world.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: Was Russia properly consecrated to the Immaculate Heart?
    « Reply #169 on: March 19, 2022, 07:42:40 AM »
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  • Why won't that one be satisfied?

    It’ll be satisfied because there’s a rumor that Bergoglio is considering inviting bishops to join him?  That doesn’t sound like it even morally would satisfy “all”.  I agree that the Pope would at the very least have to command it and possibly even impose ipso facto deposition on those who fail to comply.


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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #170 on: March 19, 2022, 08:09:40 AM »
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  • Good points. Thanks.
    My understanding is the promised period of peace was a generation , maybe 20 or 25 years. That's how Bishop Williamson describes it in keeping with Blessed Holzhauer's prophecies.

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #171 on: March 19, 2022, 10:22:51 AM »
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  • ANYONE WHO IS ARGUING THAT THIS CONSECRATION WILL FULFILL FATIMA'S REQUEST....IT WON'T.  THIS IS CLEAR.  MOVE ON.

    Let's wait and see.  I am privy to things that are taking place behind the scenes, and one thing I can reveal is that a consecration formula that is being considered perfectly fulfills the request of Our Lady of Fatima.  

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #172 on: March 19, 2022, 10:28:40 AM »
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  • The consecration of Russia, asked at Fatima in 1917, was to stop atheism from spreading to other nations. That consecration never happened then and Russia spread its atheism. Pope John Paul II did a part-consecration on 25th March, 1984. Gradually after that Communism eroded in Europe and by 1989 many had eliminated Communism from their countries in Europe.
    Since then Europe and the USA have become as anti-Catholic as the Soviet Union was and Russia now has a 75% Christian population. The latter change, could be credited to Our Lady. Archbishop Vigano has pointed out it is Russia that is now trying to prevent the great Satanic reset.
    So, what exactly is this consecration all about? The errors of Fatima in 1917 were spiritual and doctrinal. So maybe it is the west and the USA that should be consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. What this pope is doing is pitting Our Lady of the Catholic Church against Russia as though she was asked to assist the now anti-Catholic NATO and UN propaganda. Moreover, when nothing happens but more deaths of Ukrainian and Russian people, Catholicism itself could become the laughing stock of the anti-Catholic west.


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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #173 on: March 19, 2022, 10:39:07 AM »
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  • The consecration of Russia, asked at Fatima in 1917, was to stop atheism from spreading to other nations. That consecration never happened then and Russia spread its atheism. Pope John Paul II did a part-consecration on 25th March, 1984. Gradually after that Communism eroded in Europe and by 1989 many had eliminated Communism from their countries in Europe.
    Since then Europe and the USA have become as anti-Catholic as the Soviet Union was and Russia now has a 75% Christian population. The latter change, could be credited to Our Lady. Archbishop Vigano has pointed out it is Russia that is now trying to prevent the great Satanic reset.
    So, what exactly is this consecration all about? The errors of Fatima in 1917 were spiritual and doctrinal. So maybe it is the west and the USA that should be consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. What this pope is doing is pitting Our Lady of the Catholic Church against Russia as though she was asked to assist the now anti-Catholic NATO and UN propaganda. Moreover, when nothing happens but more deaths of Ukrainian and Russian people ,  "Catholicism itself could become the laughing stock of the anti-Catholic west."
    Maybe this is  why they are doing it?  ::)

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #174 on: March 19, 2022, 11:06:09 AM »
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  • The consecration of Russia, asked at Fatima in 1917, was to stop atheism from spreading to other nations. That consecration never happened then and Russia spread its atheism.

    See, I hold that there's a little more to it than Russia spreading materialistic atheism.  I believe that it was Russian agents in the 1958 conclave who displaced the legitimately-elected Gregory XVII (Siri) and installed Komrad (Nikita) Roncalli.  Montini was also a Communist agent, ratting out Catholic clerics behind the Iron Curtain.  Wojtyla was a "Pax" priest, a Communist co-operator, who was freely travelling the world while truly Catholic prelates were under house arrest or being tortured.  Wojtyla was only made a bishop because he was the ONLY one who wasn't vetoed by the head Communist official in Poland.  He was way down the list of those proposed by the Church in Poland, but the Commie official insisted that he would "only accept Wojtyla".  Bergoglio is an open Communist and nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr operative.  Ratzinger I'm not sure about other than that he was an extreme Modernist and was somehow associated with nαzιs.  Luciani I don't know much about either, but there are rumblings that he too was a Commie.

    THESE are the "errors of Russia".

    That's why Sister Lucia said that the Third Secret "would become much clearer" in 1960, and Cardinal Ciappi, who read it, famously stated "In the Third Secret, it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top."  Hmmm.  What's "the top" of the Church?  Padre Pio said that Masonry had made it to the "loafers of the pope," i.e. that Montini was a Mason (and Communist).

    Wake up and smell the coffee, RomanTheo ... these people have bene Communist Masonic agents the entire time delibrately destroying the Church.  Vatican II has Masonic fingerprints all over it, "liberte, egalite, fraternite".  Roncalli's first papal docuмent referred to a "mysterious force" rising, and mysterious force is the old name for Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ (just Google it).  His election was hailed by all the Commie and Masonic periodicals.  Roncalli knew he would be elected before the conclave.  Roncalli fraternized with Communists and had a Mason install the red cap on his head when he was made Cardinal.  Montini, apart form ratting out the Iron Curtain clerics, also was regularly seen in public wearing the "ephod of Caiaphas" (a Masonic symbol), and his mother's grave has Masonic symbols all over it.  Just look at the Demonic decoration of the "Paul VI audience hall" and the self-portrai favored by Montini that had Luciferian symbolism all over it.  I've already gone into Wojtyla, and Bergoglio is an obvious Communist.

    That is why the Conciliar Church lacks the marks fo the True Church, because it's not.  It's an imposter created by the Masons to eclipse the true Catholic Church and lead countless souls to hell.  It couldn't have done more damage if they had tried ... and that's precisely BECAUSE that's exactly what they were doing, TRYing to destroy the Church.

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #175 on: March 19, 2022, 11:21:32 AM »
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  • See, I hold that there's a little more to it than Russia spreading materialistic atheism.  I believe that it was Russian agents in the 1958 conclave who displaced the legitimately-elected Gregory XVII (Siri) and installed Komrad (Nikita) Roncalli.  Montini was also a Communist agent, ratting out Catholic clerics behind the Iron Curtain.  Wojtyla was a "Pax" priest, a Communist co-operator, who was freely travelling the world while truly Catholic prelates were under house arrest or being tortured.  Wojtyla was only made a bishop because he was the ONLY one who wasn't vetoed by the head Communist official in Poland.  He was way down the list of those proposed by the Church in Poland, but the Commie official insisted that he would "only accept Wojtyla".  Bergoglio is an open Communist and nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr operative.  Ratzinger I'm not sure about other than that he was an extreme Modernist and was somehow associated with nαzιs.  Luciani I don't know much about either, but there are rumblings that he too was a Commie.

    THESE are the "errors of Russia".

    That's why Sister Lucia said that the Third Secret "would become much clearer" in 1960, and Cardinal Ciappi, who read it, famously stated "In the Third Secret, it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top."  Hmmm.  What's "the top" of the Church?  Padre Pio said that Masonry had made it to the "loafers of the pope," i.e. that Montini was a Mason (and Communist).

    Wake up and smell the coffee, RomanTheo ... these people have bene Communist Masonic agents the entire time delibrately destroying the Church.  Vatican II has Masonic fingerprints all over it, "liberte, egalite, fraternite".  Roncalli's first papal docuмent referred to a "mysterious force" rising, and mysterious force is the old name for Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ (just Google it).  His election was hailed by all the Commie and Masonic periodicals.  Roncalli knew he would be elected before the conclave.  Roncalli fraternized with Communists and had a Mason install the red cap on his head when he was made Cardinal.  Montini, apart form ratting out the Iron Curtain clerics, also was regularly seen in public wearing the "ephod of Caiaphas" (a Masonic symbol), and his mother's grave has Masonic symbols all over it.  Just look at the Demonic decoration of the "Paul VI audience hall" and the self-portrai favored by Montini that had Luciferian symbolism all over it.  I've already gone into Wojtyla, and Bergoglio is an obvious Communist.

    That is why the Conciliar Church lacks the marks fo the True Church, because it's not.  It's an imposter created by the Masons to eclipse the true Catholic Church and lead countless souls to hell.  It couldn't have done more damage if they had tried ... and that's precisely BECAUSE that's exactly what they were doing, TRYing to destroy the Church.

    There are so many dots here that even Stevie Wonder can see what's going on.




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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #176 on: March 19, 2022, 11:24:31 AM »
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  • Good post Ladislaus. What we need is Rome to be consecrated to the Immaculate heart of Mary.

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #177 on: March 19, 2022, 11:26:38 AM »
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  • Good post Ladislaus. What we need is Rome to be consecrated to the Immaculate heart of Mary.

    I believe it would suffice to consecrate Russia as Our Lady requested, and she would then miraculously undo the damage that had been done to the Church by the Communist through their papal usurpers.  IF Bergoglio were the Pope or even if his material occupation of office were to suffice in performing the consecration, the very first effect would IMO be his immediate demise.

    She wanted the consecration performed before 1960, before the damage would start, but alas Pius XI and Pius XII refused to do it.

    I'm actually really looking forward to the consecration to see how God responds to it.  Perhaps He strikes Berogoglio dead before attempting to simulate the consecration or else strikes Him down immediately afterward as a sign of His displeasure.  Or perhaps nothing happens.  Or perhaps it's coordinated by Bergoglio with his Globalist brethren that Russia will suddenly withdraw to fool people into believing it had worked.  I only know one thing, that with Vatican II it's obvious that "an enemy hath done this".

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #178 on: March 19, 2022, 11:40:52 AM »
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  • Maybe +Francis knows he's dying (I mean, he's in bad shape, for sure) and he's trying to repent.  Deo Gratias if true!
    There have been reports that Francis had 12 inches of his colon removed in that abdominal operation. He also has had a lot of trouble walking recently. He'll be 86 years old in December.

    The Four Last Things come to the forefront of a person's awareness in these circuмstances, one would hope. Very few of us are dismissive of our coming judgment, very few.

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    Re: Pope to Consecrate Russia/Ukraine on March 25?!?
    « Reply #179 on: March 19, 2022, 11:54:56 AM »
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  • I believe it would suffice to consecrate Russia as Our Lady requested, and she would then miraculously undo the damage that had been done to the Church by the Communist through their papal usurpers.  IF Bergoglio were the Pope or even if his material occupation of office were to suffice in performing the consecration, the very first effect would IMO be his immediate demise.

    She wanted the consecration performed before 1960, before the damage would start, but alas Pius XI and Pius XII refused to do it.

    I'm actually really looking forward to the consecration to see how God responds to it.  Perhaps He strikes Berogoglio dead before attempting to simulate the consecration or else strikes Him down immediately afterward as a sign of His displeasure.  Or perhaps nothing happens.  Or perhaps it's coordinated by Bergoglio with his Globalist brethren that Russia will suddenly withdraw to fool people into believing it had worked.  I only know one thing, that with Vatican II it's obvious that "an enemy hath done this".

    Yes, it has to be Russia that gets consecrated in order to comply to the request told to us by Sister Lucia. I too look forward to such a consecration just to see if anything out of the normal happens. Indeed it really will put Fatima and even Catholicism to the test. If somethine divine happens, it will confirm God exists and can change the world. If nothing happens, get ready for an assault on Catholic belief and the excuses that will be offered as a reason why nothing divine happened.