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Pope Piux XII - Pathe Video Footage
« on: January 14, 2024, 09:31:24 AM »
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  • You can find more Pathe videos about Pope Pius XII here: https://www.youtube.com/@britishpathe/search?query=pacelli

    A thing that strikes me about these Pathe videos is how enthusiastic the script-writers are about Pope Pius XII. With the mournful or joyful music.

    I've read that Pope Piux XII gave christ-murderers "Baptisms of Convenience" during WWII. Roncalli as well, who was during WWII a bishop. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Pope Pius XII didn't think Jews were being genocided. So why give these christ-murderers these "conveniences"? Why protect them from being safely contained in camps till war's end, when they would have been expelled from Europe?

    Bernard Natan (fake name), who controlled Pathe for some time, died in Auschwitz, "murdered by the nαzιs." Uh-huh.

    There was another man who controlled Pathe much later, Giancarlo Parretti, who had some choice words about Jews, only to be protected by his Jew handler.


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    “The fact is that the Jews don’t like the idea that I represent the first Catholic communication network,” Parretti is quoted in the interview. “There doesn’t exist a single (media) holding company in the world that isn’t in the hands of Jews.”


    Yoram Globus, a jew, defended Parretti.


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    Globus rushed to his partner’s defense, telling the Los Angeles Times last Friday that Parretti is one of the most loving and generous people in Hollywood and has made large donations to Israeli and Jєωιѕн causes.

    “Do you think I would have worked with him?” Globus asked. “It’s ridiculous that the media are trying to take the blood out of the man. There is not even an inch of anti-Semitism.”


    --https://www.jta.org/archive/italian-movie-mogul-charged-with-making-anti-semitic-slur

    It's a chore to keep track of these jews and other jews who pretend to be anti-Jєωιѕн.
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.

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    Re: Pope Piux XII - Pathe Video Footage
    « Reply #1 on: January 14, 2024, 01:26:19 PM »
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  • Pope Pius XII didn't think Jews were being genocided. So why give these christ-murderers these "conveniences"? Why protect them from being safely contained in camps till war's end, when they would have been expelled from Europe?
    Rum, there was an organized program of moving Jews from Europe to Palestine during WWII by PXII.  The pretext was that they were saving them from harm, by supposed "baptisms" and fake Christian ID's and being smuggled by PXII's network out of Italy. Why? To populate Palestine with Jews, so they could establish the State of Israel. Most people do not know, that Palestine had very few Jews living there, until they were sent there during WWII.
    Why? Pacelli was a cryptojew, and his banking family worked with the Rothschild's, which indicates they were related. The Vatican bank was created during PXII's watch.
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    Re: Pope Piux XII - Pathe Video Footage
    « Reply #2 on: January 16, 2024, 10:46:26 AM »
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  • Rum, there was an organized program of moving Jews from Europe to Palestine during WWII by PXII.  The pretext was that they were saving them from harm, by supposed "baptisms" and fake Christian ID's and being smuggled by PXII's network out of Italy. Why? To populate Palestine with Jews, so they could establish the State of Israel. Most people do not know, that Palestine had very few Jews living there, until they were sent there during WWII.
    Why? Pacelli was a cryptojew, and his banking family worked with the Rothschild's, which indicates they were related. The Vatican bank was created during PXII's watch.
    Yes, it's more of a rhetorical question. There are some who view Piux XII favorably. I remember TMW89, a sede who was buddies with Mithrandylan and co-moderator (with Mithrandylan) of the defunct forums ABLF 1.0 and Te Deum, attacking me for posting some Martinez material about Pius XII. There are some sedes who view Pius XII favorably.

    On the Jew-boy Ron Unz's website is posted the following, from Mary Ball Martinez:

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    Pius XII also set up a Catholic refugee committee in Rome, which he placed under charge of his secretary, Father Leiber, and his housekeeper, young Mother Pasqualina. In his book, Pie XII avant l’Histoire, Monsignor Georges Roche reports that this committee enabled thousands of European Jews to enter the United States as “Catholics,” providing them with efficient docuмentation service, including baptismal certificates, financial aid and other trans-national arrangements. The French historian estimates that by 1942 more than one million Jews were being housed, on Vatican orders, in convents and monasteries throughout Europe. British historian Derek Holmes reports that Jews as well as Italian partisans of underground guerrilla movements were dressed as monks and nuns, and taught to sing Gregorian chants.
    --https://www.unz.com/pub/jhr__pope-pius-xii-in-the-second-world-war/

    It's pretty scandalous stuff. You have the Pope of the Catholic Church (or is he?) allowing Jews to pretend to be Catholic, when he doesn't think they're being genocided. From what I can tell the German establishment intended to keep the Christ-murderers in camps until the end of the war and then expel them from Europe. Many Catholic states expelled jews, so it wasn't as if there was no precedent in Catholic history for this action.

    Even if Martinez gets some details wrong, or is a jew herself, there are enough question marks.
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.

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    Re: Pope Piux XII - Pathe Video Footage
    « Reply #3 on: January 16, 2024, 01:16:59 PM »
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  • I've never been a great fan of Pius XII.

    1) Let Father Feeney be persecuted by the heretic Cushing.
    2) NFP
    3) evolution
    4) providing fake baptismal certificates for Jews
    5) failing to consecrate Russia as Our Lady had requested
    6) setting Bugnini up to begin his liturgical experimentations
    7) appointing (in his lengthy reign) nearly every single bishop who would later bring us Vatican II

    His was the watershed papacy that ushered in the Vatican II era.  "After me, the deluge." he said.  "Because of me, the deluge." may have been better.

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    Re: Pope Piux XII - Pathe Video Footage
    « Reply #4 on: January 16, 2024, 04:07:47 PM »
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  • Cardinal Manning and Pope Leo XIII spoke of election and nomination as infallible, BUT the knew that an elected pope, can go wrong in their pontificate.  I too look at Pius XI and Pius XII in that way.  Church always stated, " You do not protect or support jews".  And this is what happened.

    But what blows my mind, that Pius XI did not consecrate Russia.  He even mocked God by saying "world" instead of Russia.  Wow!!  A Command from God and he didn't do it!!


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    Re: Pope Piux XII - Pathe Video Footage
    « Reply #5 on: January 16, 2024, 04:27:33 PM »
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  • I've never been a great fan of Pius XII.

    1) Let Father Feeney be persecuted by the heretic Cushing.
    2) NFP
    3) evolution
    4) providing fake baptismal certificates for Jews
    5) failing to consecrate Russia as Our Lady had requested
    6) setting Bugnini up to begin his liturgical experimentations
    7) appointing (in his lengthy reign) nearly every single bishop who would later bring us Vatican II

    His was the watershed papacy that ushered in the Vatican II era.  "After me, the deluge." he said.  "Because of me, the deluge." may have been better.
    Did he have any strong docuмents? Thoughts on 'mystical body of Christ'?

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    Re: Pope Piux XII - Pathe Video Footage
    « Reply #6 on: January 16, 2024, 05:41:08 PM »
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  • Did he have any strong docuмents? Thoughts on 'mystical body of Christ'?

    Most of his Encyclicals were solid, but nothing over-the-top anti-Modernist (such as what a St. Pius X or a Pius IX produced) ... even though if at any time in Church history such were called for, it was during the time of his reign.

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    Re: Pope Piux XII - Pathe Video Footage
    « Reply #7 on: January 17, 2024, 12:35:43 AM »
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  • Do any of you know of people on this forum who are fans of Pope Piux XII?
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.


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    Re: Pope Piux XII - Pathe Video Footage
    « Reply #8 on: January 17, 2024, 06:13:44 PM »
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  • https://brotherjuniper.wordpress.com/2009/03/02/pope-pius-xii-and-the-jews-a-critical-re-appraisal/
    Pope Pius XII and the Jews: A Critical Re-appraisal
    MondayMar 2009   Posted by brotherjuniper 
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    Several days ago, I wrote an article in which I discussed Pope Pius XII and his role during the h0Ɩ0cαųst. Due to the controversial nature of this subject, I have sought to provide my readers with a number of resources on this topic. I do not feel that I am competent enough to write about it myself. Here are the ones I found:
    Pius XII’s Massive Crusade: A Zenit Interview with Sr. Margherita Marchione. (Courtesy of EWTN)
    Pius XII and the Jews by Sr. Margherita Marchione. (A historical perspective on Pope Pius XII’s role in the h0Ɩ0cαųst and how many religious risked their lives to save the Jews.)
    A Righteous Gentile: Pope Pius XII and the Jews. (An article on Pope Pius XII from a Jєωιѕн perspective.)
    How Pope Pius XII Protected the Jews. (An article by Catholic Answers apologist Jimmy Akin.)
    The Framing of Pius XII. (An examination by Matthew Bunson of the evidence and history behind the accusations leveled at Pope Pius XII.)

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    Persevere...
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