Author Topic: pop music, hollywood movies, etc. (Read 853 times)

Graham · « **on:** May 12, 2013, 02:28:36 PM »

I am really surprised by how many families go to seeming great lengths to raise their children Catholic, while letting these influences in through the back door in their own homes. Even granted that they filter out the worst, it can only lead to children who have a minimalist idea of the Faith -- who may technically respect faith and morals, but have in most other ways a modern, liberal, and chaotic mental culture.

Matto · « **Reply #1 on:** May 12, 2013, 03:28:20 PM »

I find it strange that traditional Catholics would let pop music and pop movies into the house. I know when I converted I went through all my music and movies and books and threw out everything that was bad.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #2 on:** May 12, 2013, 03:50:55 PM »

It's just liberalism.

A person can't really listen to obscene music as though it were a normal thing to be unashamed of and really have any reverence for morality.

As for the movies - those are more dangerous, and the increasing tastelessness and stupidity of the movies, as well as their unflagging popularity (with all the options for entertainment these days, they remain incredibly popular) shows that the Jєωιѕн propagandists who dominate the the popular entertainment media have become increasingly skilled in psychological manipulation.

There's no Catholic sanctuary in a family where that trash is accepted and admired.

Tiffany · « **Reply #3 on:** May 12, 2013, 03:56:23 PM »

One thing to remember is if people grew up with them, they may not see the danger. Reading this board I'm starting to understand why what priest teach is important for the choices families make.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #4 on:** May 12, 2013, 03:58:54 PM »

Quote from: Tiffany

One thing to remember is if people grew up with them, they may not see the danger. Reading this board I'm starting to understand why what priest teach is important for the choices families make.

Neotrad priests are acting to change the values of the young people. They are making them more liberal, and it's by design.

Gimli · « **Reply #5 on:** May 12, 2013, 04:11:05 PM »

I fully agree. "Just to convert" is not all. The whole journey begins when the conversion ceremony is over. I do find it strange that traditional Catholics do not understand it themselves, how rotten and evil the secular and liberal children/teen programs and shows often are. And the so called "boy bands, Lady Gaga, Rap and RnB" and all. Well the list can be very long.

So much in the modern world gives me sorrow and sadness how ugly and vile things has turned out to be. But most of it all I have to "get used to", so I try to take it with a stoic manner. But when I see how horrific and poisonous the brainwashing of children is it breaks my heart. And the so called parents do not even react. That is one of the phenomena of an anti-catholic world and society -the apathy and indifference. One of the worst sins in my book.

My brother once worked in a internet cafe. He told me that a lot of times parents just dumped their small children there. Paid my brother so they had computer time for almost 48 hours. And the worst of it all was that most of the parents looked like quite well mannered white middle-class parents, but they were all like zombies in a way. I get the chills when I think of it. It is pure diabolic. One of the reason why I converted to the Tradition it is because it is the ONLY religion that defends the child, even when it is unborn. The Tradition defends the child's right to have innocence, to have grown ups that are role models, the child's right to a childhood and to have their soul safe and guarded. I love the Faith and Tradition for that. It is like our Lord when he entered Jerusalem and let the adults wait so he could bless the children first.

But the old Walt Disney movies/classics is something I can find quite "catholic" though. Heroism, dignity, full of European and Western beauty, archetypes and values. The Narnia movies is great for children. But now I just mentioned cliches. I know you understand. :scratchchin:

Luker · « **Reply #6 on:** May 12, 2013, 05:45:48 PM »

Quote from: Gimli

I fully agree. "Just to convert" is not all. The whole journey begins when the conversion ceremony is over.

I like this statement, as a convert my self I totally agree. When you come out of the world into Traditional Catholicism even after the conversion, there remains much work to be done. This liberal anti-Catholic society is so pervasive, I do not think it an exaggeration to say that modernism is practically the air we breathe. I still find liberal attitudes in myself in the smallest and oddest nooks and corners. They all need to be routed out if I am to be fully Catholic, in the best sense of that word. Especially in things like politics, even though I thought myself pretty conservative, pro-life, pro traditional marriage etc, it was only when I read Pope Pius IX Syllabus of Errors for the first time I saw how far I still needed to go to fully embrace Catholic thought. It was a bit of an uncomfortable experience for me, after all I grew up thinking that religious liberty was a fundamental human right! But rather than reject the Syllabus, I researched Holy Churches teaching on these matters and now that I understand the why and the how I see first how wrong I was before and perhaps more sadly, just how far Christendom has fallen in the last 100 years or so. I just re-read the Syllabus about a week ago without internally 'cringing' over any of the condemned errors, I take that as a positive sign of progress. Deo Gratias!

Luke