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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: Pokemon and Other Video Games
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2023, 07:54:12 PM »
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  • I also don't understand the evolution argument... It's something like metamorphosis. Pokemon always breed the mother species.

    Azurill has a chance to do it, for some reason.



    Also, this is my first post. So hello, I'm from Spain :)
    It would be a bug/glitch. Also hello.

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    Re: Pokemon and Other Video Games
    « Reply #31 on: October 11, 2023, 07:59:56 PM »
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  • Is there really a need to talk about demons in pokemon and the such to have your children stop playing pokemon? Have you seen the girl character desings? Go look up "pokemon black and white 2 female protagonist" and tell me if you'd let your children play a game with girls dressed like that. And since the games are now 3d, it's even worse.

    Other than that, I don't see a problem with pokemon, appart from being a time sinker I guess.


    Half of the things in there are made up :laugh1: That article accomplishes nothing but to make catholics look like idiots. It reminded me of a protestant nutjob called Josué Irión that gave some conferences in the nineties(? saying things like while you look at the pokemon cards the devil guides you to the train rails to kill you, and that watching the pokemon anime will get you demon-induced epilepsy... (There was an episode that gave some children epilepsy attacks, from quickly flashing lights)

    Getting "The new hero is a monster" from the title shows that the author has no idea. And what gnostic battle between good and evil? There is a pokemon god that rules over all, and there is no evil to battle. The seven great demon lords? That gave me a chuckle. The first of those seven demons was introduced in 1999, and the last in 2019. Was that a part of the plot to slowly acustom you to the seven great demons? :laugh2: None of them are even related in any way!
    And now that I look again, the top right one ain't even a Pokemon!!!!!! That must be a digimon. What would an atheist pokemon fan think if he read this? That catholics are a bunch of fanatic idiots that cannot even get their facts straight. And I say that out of experience. Josué Irión made the same digimon mistake.

    I also don't understand the evolution argument... It's something like metamorphosis. Pokemon always breed the mother species.

    Azurill has a chance to do it, for some reason.



    Also, this is my first post. So hello, I'm from Spain :)
    Dear Emilio,
    Thank you for posting!  It is a worldwide problem--that alone should make us question what the ulterior motive is for the game in addition to making lots of money!




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    Re: Pokemon and Other Video Games
    « Reply #32 on: October 11, 2023, 08:12:12 PM »
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  • Dear Emilio,
    Thank you for posting!  It is a worldwide problem--that alone should make us question what the ulterior motive is for the game in addition to making lots of money!
    I heard that japan and Nintendo is quite masonic. Lot's of their games have symbolism, eg in Mario and Zelda.

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    Re: Pokemon and Other Video Games
    « Reply #33 on: October 11, 2023, 11:17:04 PM »
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  • I heard that japan and Nintendo is quite masonic. Lot's of their games have symbolism, eg in Mario and Zelda.

    Oh yeah.  These were introduced to get people softened up to the idea of alternate realities and disconnecting from reality to make their own reality.  I was a HEAVY video game addict in my childhood up until about the age of 25-30.  It wasn't until a few years ago that I started to see the gradualism that it was being built into and how it wasn't so innocent after all. 

    Start off innocent enough to get the mostly traditional parents to think it's nothing to be concerned about, start to introduce occultic elements (look at Final Fantasy, one of the most popular RPG franchises of all time, when they started to introduce "summons" they literally used demons names for those summons, and players could use magic and cast spells on enemies, etc.), make the games look more and more realistic as the years go by, introduce 3D VR and roleplaying sandbox where you make your own worlds to your liking and you see the "ye shall be as gods" right in your face. 

    Eventually they will want to merge man with machine where people can create and rule their own VR worlds, etc.     

    I think some games are still ok if it's something not occultic, like a tennis/sports game, or a puzzle game, or other types of games of that nature but I think caution should always be taken as I'm more than sure that popular mainstream game franchises flash occultic sigils in their logos and probably cast spells on people this way.  

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    Re: Pokemon and Other Video Games
    « Reply #34 on: October 11, 2023, 11:35:45 PM »
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  • Start off innocent enough to get the mostly traditional parents to think it's nothing to be concerned about, start to introduce occultic elements (look at Final Fantasy, one of the most popular RPG franchises of all time, when they started to introduce "summons" they literally used demons names for those summons, and players could use magic and cast spells on enemies, etc.), make the games look more and more realistic as the years go by, introduce 3D VR and roleplaying sandbox where you make your own worlds to your liking and you see the "ye shall be as gods" right in your face. 


    I wasted so much time playing video games. Anyone who has ever owned a video game system has the same regret.

    I don't know of a single video game that could reasonably merit an imprimatur... 

    Pokemon isn't just video games, of course. There's a whole universe of that garbage. The Pokemon card game is very similar to "Magic: The Gathering," to the point of being a direct competitor to it. I don't think anyone on here would defend "Magic: The Gathering" as innocent or "not harmful." It's quite obvious that Pokemon is in the same domain as MTG. 

    There is a collectible card game called "Saint Cards" which is a Pokemon / MTG alternative that is quite good. My children like playing it and have turned some of their friends on to it, too. 

    https://www.saintcards.com/


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    Re: Pokemon and Other Video Games
    « Reply #35 on: October 12, 2023, 05:39:33 AM »
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  • It reminded me of a protestant nutjob called Josué Irión that gave some conferences in the nineties(? saying things like while you look at the pokemon cards the devil guides you to the train rails to kill you, and that watching the pokemon anime will get you demon-induced epilepsy... (There was an episode that gave some children epilepsy attacks, from quickly flashing lights)


    Also, this is my first post. So hello, I'm from Spain :)
    Los pokimon :laugh1:

    Well, Josue Yrión had a point about Yugioh. That was an openly occult anime and card game that was very popular in schools for a few years for some reason.

    I remember  the anime was about a boy who have a magical puzzle from his grandfather, who had found it in an Egyptian tomb, and the puzzle had the spirit of a old pharaoh inside that possessed him and helped him win card duels.

    The card game in the anime was created based on sorcery duels between magicians of Ancient Egypt, in fact the iconic card of the boy/pharaoh protagonist is a magician.

    There were more magical artifacts that had heroes or villains, for example a villain had a magical eye that was literally the Eye of Hours, which allowed him to read people's minds and he used it to cheat in duels.

    Another had a magic staff that allowed him to control other people.

    A girl, who was the sister of the boy with the staff, who were guardians of tombs in Egypt or something like that, had a magic necklace with which she could see the future, and there were more but I don't remember.

    There were "Egyptian Gods" cards that were the most powerful in the anime and unlike normal cards, these had the own will, and could attack people in the real world, and the villain with the staff wanted to get them. And the pharaoh wanted to avoid it

    Already the cards, there were many that were demons, sorcerers, magicians, occult symbols, egyptian symbols obviously, etc.

    That anime, seen in perspective, was very occult, and was broadcast for children and so was the card game.

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    Re: Pokemon and Other Video Games
    « Reply #36 on: October 12, 2023, 09:34:52 PM »
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  • I wasted so much time playing video games. Anyone who has ever owned a video game system has the same regret.

    I don't know of a single video game that could reasonably merit an imprimatur...

    Pokemon isn't just video games, of course. There's a whole universe of that garbage. The Pokemon card game is very similar to "Magic: The Gathering," to the point of being a direct competitor to it. I don't think anyone on here would defend "Magic: The Gathering" as innocent or "not harmful." It's quite obvious that Pokemon is in the same domain as MTG.

    There is a collectible card game called "Saint Cards" which is a Pokemon / MTG alternative that is quite good. My children like playing it and have turned some of their friends on to it, too.

    https://www.saintcards.com/
    Dear EdgarLovesMary,
    Thank you for the link to saint cards.  Do you know which liturgical calendar they follow?  Hopefully they will help.

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    Re: Pokemon and Other Video Games
    « Reply #37 on: October 13, 2023, 04:20:40 PM »
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  • I heard that japan and Nintendo is quite masonic. Lot's of their games have symbolism, eg in Mario and Zelda.
    Fun fact, Link from The Legend of Zelda was originally supposed to be Christian (and by extension, probably Catholic since the Japanese rightfully associate Christianity with Catholicism in most of their media). There's even old official concept art supporting this:



    However, when the game was brought to North America, it was changed in order to avoid potential religious controversy.


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    Re: Pokemon and Other Video Games
    « Reply #38 on: October 13, 2023, 04:31:02 PM »
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  • Dear EdgarLovesMary,
    Thank you for the link to saint cards.  Do you know which liturgical calendar they follow?  Hopefully they will help.
    It's Novus Ordo with fake saints like Frassati.

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    Re: Pokemon and Other Video Games
    « Reply #39 on: October 13, 2023, 07:04:04 PM »
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  • Fun fact, Link from The Legend of Zelda was originally supposed to be Christian (and by extension, probably Catholic since the Japanese rightfully associate Christianity with Catholicism in most of their media). There's even old official concept art supporting this:



    However, when the game was brought to North America, it was changed in order to avoid potential religious controversy.
    Unfortunately it's now filled with Freemasons and pagan references.

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    Re: Pokemon and Other Video Games
    « Reply #40 on: October 15, 2023, 12:13:07 AM »
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  • Dear EdgarLovesMary,
    Thank you for the link to saint cards.  Do you know which liturgical calendar they follow?  Hopefully they will help.
    They have multiple sets. You can get sets that follow only follow/feature the traditional calendar. That's what we have in our home. 


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    Re: Pokemon and Other Video Games
    « Reply #41 on: October 15, 2023, 02:31:24 AM »
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  • They have multiple sets. You can get sets that follow only follow/feature the traditional calendar. That's what we have in our home.
    Wow, that's great. 

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    Re: Pokemon and Other Video Games
    « Reply #42 on: October 15, 2023, 02:23:57 PM »
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  • I wasted so much time playing video games. Anyone who has ever owned a video game system has the same regret.

    I don't know of a single video game that could reasonably merit an imprimatur...

    Pokemon isn't just video games, of course. There's a whole universe of that garbage. The Pokemon card game is very similar to "Magic: The Gathering," to the point of being a direct competitor to it. I don't think anyone on here would defend "Magic: The Gathering" as innocent or "not harmful." It's quite obvious that Pokemon is in the same domain as MTG.

    There is a collectible card game called "Saint Cards" which is a Pokemon / MTG alternative that is quite good. My children like playing it and have turned some of their friends on to it, too.

    https://www.saintcards.com/
    There are obviously some video games we shouldn't play, actually, a lot of them, but playing video games is not bad in and of itself. It's a hobby just like any other. I used to be a fairly hardcore gamer, but now only play a little. It's something fun to do when you're home, alone and bored. 

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    Re: Pokemon and Other Video Games
    « Reply #43 on: November 07, 2023, 07:49:27 AM »
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  • There are obviously some video games we shouldn't play, actually, a lot of them, but playing video games is not bad in and of itself. It's a hobby just like any other. I used to be a fairly hardcore gamer, but now only play a little. It's something fun to do when you're home, alone and bored.
    https://youtu.be/DaUHU2I-haA?si=kcHowj0tIQdVO4wX

    It seems like the original Pokemon games had an innocent intention though I cannot say for the later ones. I think many of the pagan elements are simply due to modern society and Japan not being a Christian nation.

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    Re: Pokemon and Other Video Games
    « Reply #44 on: November 07, 2023, 12:42:41 PM »
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  • We were saying the other day about not being too strict, cult-like, or weird so as to cause our children to rebel...

    When you say it's demonic or evil, you better be "damn" sure, or that's the fastest way to alienate your children and cause them to rebel or even become black sheep.

    It seems like a convenient shortcut to just condemn and play the Baptist minister -- it takes less effort than looking into it, making distinctions, referring to theological principles. But if you're just reacting to something that's not part of your generation, part of your childhood, and you condemn it just because you don't like it or have "no use for it" -- then woe unto you! Your kids, who WON'T be thus biased against an innocent video game (for example) will RIGHTLY peg you as an old "boomer" who is just WRONG and probably wrong about many other things.

    They know more about said video game than you, probably saw their (good) friends play it, NOT become evil afterwards, and maybe even played it themselves. They'll say, "My silly Mom/dad thinks this is from the devil! hahaha" and you just lost their respect.

    Again I say: beware. Don't take shortcuts. You get out what you put in, you reap what you sow. There is no free lunch.

    And you can't condemn everything. Your kids are NOT just going to pray and listen to Gregorian chant all day long. If you condemn "everything" as satanic, they're just going to give up and say "screw it". You want to save your "satanic" label for the things that are TRULY demonic and lead to dabbling in the occult. You have to pick your battles.

    "poor use of time" and/or "not created by a Traditional Catholic with a Trad Catholic worldview" does not equal demonic.

    And, there is such a thing as harmless fantasy. Just for starters, as long as it's portrayed as fantasy (i.e., NOT this real world we live in) that's a huge wall between them and the occult. That's one problem with Harry Potter. It takes place in the REAL WORLD that we live in, not some magical fantasy world or dimension.
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