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Offline epiphany

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Re: Psychopaths
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2022, 05:34:36 PM »
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  • I would like to clear something up...my husband and i introduced her to this priest and recommended her per say as a woman who was interested in becoming catholic. We had many ties with her within the church and she even lived on our property twice to help her out, but now that we see/know this about her we feel it may be our duty because of what I stated above.
    I want her to be saved but i don't want her to come into the church as a pretender with our knowledge and that somehow be on our shoulders for not telling what we know.
    Would it be any different if someone wanted to be baptized but did not repent of their adultery or alcoholism, etc and you knew but made no mention of it to anyone? Would that person be liable before God? That is our biggest concern...her habitual lying is very concerning.
    You would not be liable before God.
    The baptizing priest is liable to vet adult baptism candidates.
    If you are still concerned, speak with a priest in the confessional.

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    Re: Psychopaths
    « Reply #16 on: March 18, 2022, 09:41:29 PM »
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  • Found a simple explanation:

      They
    [narcissists] talk about themselves almost exclusively. That is, those with narcissistic personality disorders (NPD) tend to think and speak of themselves most of the time. They are very conscious of their physical appearance, wealth, talents or achievements of which there are often many, and they expect to hold your attention to these attributes as they speak. However, these comments may tend to be exaggerated or at least overemphasized and are not necessarily accurate reflections of their whole lives.[/list]

    Key to differentiating the narcissist from the sociopath is that the sociopath cannot experience remorse and may be violent. The sociopath, however, does have all the narcissistic characteristics above.

    A major differentiated characteristic of the psychopath and sociopath is that the former is innate while the latter is environmental. Both have narcissistic characteristics. There is no regard for right and wrong and thus violate the law and the rights of others


    https://lauriehollmanphd.com/2020/05/18/narcissist-vs-sociopath-vs-psychopath-whats-the-difference/#:~:text=The%20main%20difference%20between%20the,not%20physically%20aggressive%20or%20violent.


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    Re: Psychopaths
    « Reply #17 on: March 19, 2022, 12:58:57 AM »
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  • A good example of a narcissist, sociopath and, possibly, a psychopath, is a woman on this forum whose initials are "AG". 

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    Re: Psychopaths
    « Reply #18 on: March 19, 2022, 01:05:28 AM »
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  • If you are not a religious and not related to this person then you should not say anything to her priest because whether or not her priest baptizes is none of your business.
    You would not be liable before God.
    The baptizing priest is liable to vet adult baptism candidates.
    If you are still concerned, speak with a priest in the confessional.
    Nonsense. All Catholics are the Church's keeper. The priest isn't omniscient. If a layman has personal knowledge and experience of a person who is a detriment to the Church while entering it, that layman should inform the priest.

    The confessional is for confessions. It's not for anything outside of it. The person should inform the priest at another time and place. Make an appointment, if need be.

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    Re: Psychopaths
    « Reply #19 on: March 19, 2022, 01:22:34 AM »
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  • This video helps explain the differences well, from a Catholic perspective:
    https://youtu.be/Ux4duSamw68
    It, also, unwittingly, describes jews to a T. 


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    Re: Psychopaths
    « Reply #20 on: March 19, 2022, 01:23:54 AM »
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  • Satan (Lucifer) was the first schizophrenic, narcissist, psychopath and being to commit ѕυιcιdє. 

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    Re: Psychopaths
    « Reply #21 on: March 19, 2022, 04:39:23 AM »
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  • I would like to clear something up...my husband and i introduced her to this priest and recommended her per say as a woman who was interested in becoming catholic. We had many ties with her within the church and she even lived on our property twice to help her out, but now that we see/know this about her we feel it may be our duty because of what I stated above.
    I want her to be saved but i don't want her to come into the church as a pretender with our knowledge and that somehow be on our shoulders for not telling what we know.
    Would it be any different if someone wanted to be baptized but did not repent of their adultery or alcoholism, etc and you knew but made no mention of it to anyone? Would that person be liable before God? That is our biggest concern...her habitual lying is very concerning.
    You did your part now shake the dust. Concern yourself with saving your soul and those of your husband and children and pray for her but beyond that, as much as possible have nothing to do with her. You cannot really compare this situation with baptizing anyone so forget about that. 

    Telling the priest your concern regarding this psycho would be the prudent thing to do so the priest doesn't get blind sided. The reason for telling the priest is because she has many ties within your Church and it only takes one determined person to stir up trouble and cause chaos and division within the congregation, since the priest is the authority it's best to let him know. If he's been around for any length of time, he most likely has experience dealing with this type of situation and should know how to best remedy it.

    That's my free advice. 
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: Psychopaths
    « Reply #22 on: March 19, 2022, 10:18:48 AM »
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  • It, also, unwittingly, describes Jєωs to a T.
    I am sure it was not unwittingly.


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    Re: Psychopaths
    « Reply #23 on: March 19, 2022, 03:33:41 PM »
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  • In that movie "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", Martini wanted a hotel when they were playing monopoly, but it wasn't his turn and he didn't have the money, but he just kept grabbing it and grabbing at it anyway. He'd pick that red hotel out of the box and say with his own satisfaction, "hotel, hotel".

    Then an exasperated and irritated Harding would say, "what are you doing? You do not have a hotel there. For the third time, you do not have a hotel on Boardwalk. It costs $1,000 and four green houses to put a hotel on Boardwalk".

    Harding would take the red hotel away from Martini, and put it back in the community box. Then when Martini had the chance, he'd grab the hotel again an try to put it back on Boardwalk. So it goes.

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    Re: Psychopaths
    « Reply #24 on: March 20, 2022, 01:20:15 AM »
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  • A good example of a narcissist, sociopath and, possibly, a psychopath, is a woman on this forum whose initials are "AG".
    Correction. I meant "AE". 

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    Re: Psychopaths
    « Reply #25 on: March 20, 2022, 01:21:41 AM »
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  • I am sure it was not unwittingly.
    At the time that she rendered that great analysis, she was, unfortunately, pro-zionist. Maybe not so much now.