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Offline lauraelizabeth

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« on: April 28, 2013, 10:12:01 AM »
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  • Thanks to all the great advice I received last week on Cathinfo...I am turning to you all again. I know saying this may make maaany people do this: :facepalm: and this :smash-pc: and this :heretic: and this :shocked: .....but I was attending the N.O. as recently as three weeks ago, I believe. Unfortunately, I had (and have) very little, if any, trust in the priests....not to mention HUGE doubts about the sacraments and just terrible anxieties about even attending because it felt so, so wrong to me.

    Last week I attended Holy Mass with Fr. Hewko. What a gift! After prayer and reading and listening to plenty of online sermons....I really feel as though satan was luring me under false obedience.....urging me to submit to something very ugly and vulgar and altogether opposed to the Kingdom of Christ.
    As I have said plenty of times...I live with my parents, my brother, my pregnant sister-in-law, and their five young children. All N.O.ers.
    I want to be a good example to all of them, especially the children.....but they are just seeing now that "their aunt is staying home from church".
    I teach them Catechism sometimes and I try to just make sure that they adore the saints (which made me love tradition, Thanks be to God.)

    Do you think..should I stand up for the True Catholic Faith vocally to them (although a girl, I do have courage and fight in me :dwarf:)...or should I do this quietly, and try to win them over by example (prayers, devotion to Our Lord and Our Blessed Mother, and also by loving hardship and sacrifice....though I'm working on that =). Please, if anything has been effective for any of you.....let me know!

    God has opened my dad's eyes, somewhat, to the crisis in the Church....and he is the one who drove me 2.5 hours to go to Fr. Hewko's Mass (and said that he would definitely drive me again).
    Now I must pray and wait until I am able to receive Our Lord again (torture!)

    The last advice that I seek is what to do on Our Lord's Day...
    Should I just read through the missal, pray the rosary, and make some prayers of spiritual communion? I just wonder what anyone else does. It could be weeks or months until I get to another Catholic Mass and I feel a lot of guilt for staying home, but I also know it will save my faith. Surely it is not helpful to my soul to attend a N.O. church and sit in contempt and despair for 1.5 hours. The only thing I love is staring at the crucifix and I can do that at home, without participating in a false mass.

    I am so grateful for all advice.
    in Jesus and Mary+


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    « Reply #1 on: April 28, 2013, 10:39:12 AM »
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  • Dear Laura,

    I live far away from a traditional Mass, and the NO is the only thing available to me as well. for the past 6 months I have been going through a very intense interior struggle about wether to fulfill my Sunday obligation at the NO. And would you believe it, just three weeks ago I made the same decision you did. I hope for good I left behind any obligation to the NO.

    On Sundays, I:
    -Pray a "dry mass" which is praying through the missal, just as I would if I were at Mass. It is not the same as the Mass, but you are still uniting yourself with the Faithful around the world in prayer.
    -Pray the rosary.
    -Also on Sundays I take more time than usual praying for the restoration of the true Mass.

    I'd like to note that I've experienced more peace in my soul this past 3 weeks than I have in 6 months. Lord have mercy if I'm wrong, but I have forsaken the NO out of love for God. These are confusing times.

    God bless you for your courage. I will say a rosary for you today, my dear sister in Christ. Remain at the feet of Our Lord and under the cloak of our Mother. Remain steadfast in hope and confident in His mercy!

    In Christo,
    Jen
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    ~James 1:27


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    « Reply #2 on: April 28, 2013, 11:40:57 AM »
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  • I feel for you. Many of us have had the same doubts. I still think about it daily. How can it be that the churchhas vbecome invisible or at least difficult to find? I don't want to be a heretic, but, havepprobably become a schismatic. I would recommend Windswept House by Malachi Martin. God Bless
    Regina Angelorum, ora pro nobis!

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    « Reply #3 on: April 28, 2013, 12:27:54 PM »
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  • You do not have any kind of obligation to participate in the Montinian rites and thus to let your spiritual offerings be polluted by placing them on the table of prevarication.

    I assure you that you will be at peace when you will have definitively cut yourself free from their tentacles. Usurpers cannot make laws; nor can the legacy of Edom morally bind the spiritual seed of Jacob. May the time soon come when the truth about the situation that we have been living through will be shouted from the rooftops.

    Regarding your situation at home; I would encourage you to look at the Saints to be properly formed in how to deal with it. One thing is certain, and that is that people will be more easily convinced if you are Christlike in your behaviour than when you speak much but do little.

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    « Reply #4 on: April 28, 2013, 12:47:16 PM »
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  • Thank God you now understand that the Conciliar Church is no longer Catholic! In case at some point you feel like you should attend it for whatever reason, remember that!

    I will add to Jen's good advice and say remember to take you Spiritual Communion and overall, keep the day holy. If for whatever reason you are unable to pray the Mass or say the rosary, do what you can to keep the day holy. Keep in mind the 3rd commandment, that is what Sunday is all about so remind God why you stayed home. Maybe that will help prompt Him to send the Holy Sacrifice closer to you so you can go every week!

    Another thing you need to do is to send your Holy Angel to Mass so you get the graces!.........

    O holy angel, at my side,
    Please go to church for me,
    Please kneel in my place at Holy Mass
    Where I desire to be.
    At Offertory, in my stead,
    Take all I am and own,
    And place it as a sacrifice
    Upon the Alter Throne.
    At Holy Consecrations bell,
    Adore with Seraph's love.
    My Jesus hidden in the Host,
    Come down from Heaven above.
    And when the Priest, communion takes,
    Oh, bring my Lord to me,
    That His sweet heart may rest on mine,
    And I His temple be.

    I was taught that our Holy Angel will instantly assist at the best True Mass being celebrated in the whole world for us each time we ask him to go!

    Also, spending some time listening to These recordings can only help.

    God Bless!
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    « Reply #5 on: April 28, 2013, 01:02:53 PM »
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  • Laura, my prayers are with you. My situation isn't exactly as yours, but it's quite similar. I'm a married father of four young children. Our nearest True Mass is three hours away, although there's a NO one mile away, which we avoid as if it were a methodist or presbyterian service. If you're like me, you will feel at ease - indeed, relieved - to cut ties to the NO, as others previous to me posted. And I'm not talking just the NOM; I mean everything to do with the NO. It saps your strength, both mentally and spiritually.

    On Sundays and Holydays, I play a video of the True Mass for the children and as it plays ask them questions occasionally and answer theirs. We pray our Rosary and have a brief Catechism lesson. Regarding your situation, think about what you posted about your father: "God has opened my dad's eyes, somewhat, to the crisis in the Church." Now, think about what you posted just before that: "I live with my parents, my brother, my pregnant sister-in-law, and their five young children." Your father has a wonderful opportunity, as head of the home, to lead. If I were you, I would start a novena to St. Joseph TODAY for the intention of making your father strong. You ask if you should stand up for the Faith or lead by example. Well, by leading by example, you ARE standing up for the Faith. Trust me, I know: Children are curious, and soon enough they'll come to you and ask questions. Be ready: "But sanctify the Lord Christ in your hearts, being ready always to satisfy every one that asketh you a reason of that hope which is in you." - 1 Peter 3:15
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #6 on: April 28, 2013, 02:02:24 PM »
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  • The responses on this thread are very good.

    Thank you for sharing that, Stubborn, I had never heard of that before!

    To answer your question, laura, you're doing the right thing by not attending the NO. It doesn't do you any good to attend a scandalous Mass that was created by Freemasons to please the Protestants just so that you may meet your Sunday Obligation. God wouldn't want us jeopardizing our Faith, and that's bascially what we'd be doing should we attend the NO.

    As Archbishop Lefebvre said:

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    The Novus Ordo Missae, even when said with piety and respect for the liturgical rules, is impregnated with the spirit of Protestantism... it bears within it a poison harmful to the Faith.


    My advice is to stay home and pray the Rosary. You may read your Missal, or perhaps you would like to watch a live Traditional Latin Mass on the internet. The SGG streams their Sunday morning Masses live, as do an FSSP parish in Florida and an independant chapel in the mid-west (I think there's a fee to watch the independant chapel's Masses, though). I'll give you these sites if you'd like.

    I will also pray that God may one day grant you access to a TLM weekly.

    God Bless.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #7 on: April 28, 2013, 02:31:10 PM »
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  • I only have mass here one Sunday  a month.
    On the  other Sundays I have purchased a beautiful DVD and play it while I follow along with the mass.
    You can purchase this DVD from the following website:

    http://www.stjosephsmedia.com/massdvd.htm

    The mass is said by Fr Benedict Hughes CMRI.
     


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    « Reply #8 on: April 28, 2013, 02:36:12 PM »
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  • How do you guys receive the sacraments?  What do you do if or when you have the misfortune to commit a mortal sin and need to go to confession?  Do you simply make an act of perfect contrition?  Doesn't the Church teach that even though perfect contrition does restore our  friendship with God, we still have the obligation confess our mortal sins to a priest under normal circuмstances.  I'm just wondering.
    My conscience compels me to make this disclaimer lest God judges me partly culpable for the errors and heresy promoted on this forum... For the record I support neither Sedevacantism or the SSPX.  I do not define myself as either a traditionalist or Novus

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    « Reply #9 on: April 28, 2013, 03:29:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: rowsofvoices9
    How do you guys receive the sacraments?  What do you do if or when you have the misfortune to commit a mortal sin and need to go to confession?  Do you simply make an act of perfect contrition?  Doesn't the Church teach that even though perfect contrition does restore our  friendship with God, we still have the obligation confess our mortal sins to a priest under normal circuмstances.  I'm just wondering.


    If I fall into mortal sin, I offer my best act of contrition and confess to a priest sacramentally at the first opportunity. As for "normal circuмstances," that disappeared from our mirrors long ago.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #10 on: April 28, 2013, 03:32:01 PM »
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  • Quote from: rowsofvoices9
    How do you guys receive the sacraments?  What do you do if or when you have the misfortune to commit a mortal sin and need to go to confession?  Do you simply make an act of perfect contrition?  Doesn't the Church teach that even though perfect contrition does restore our  friendship with God, we still have the obligation confess our mortal sins to a priest under normal circuмstances.  I'm just wondering.


    The validity of the Sacraments from the NO are questionable at best.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #11 on: April 28, 2013, 03:45:26 PM »
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  • When I think about the time I spent in the Novus Ordo a few years ago, I realize that I got nothing out of it. The only reason I went was because we are supposed to attend Mass every Sunday, and the only thing I did there was get upset at all the abuses and sacrileges and heresies spewed from the pulpit. Now that I attend Mass at an SSPX Chapel, even though I fear that they are compromising, I get a lot out of Mass and am glad to be there nearly all of the time.
    R.I.P.
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    « Reply #12 on: April 28, 2013, 04:43:55 PM »
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  • To lauraelizabeth, jen51 and others:

    First of all, I will keep you and all others unable to assist at the True Mass regularily in my prayers.

    As a new Catholic, I didn't understand at first the decision of so many Traditional Catholics to stay at home instead of just attend the nearest novus ordo.  I thought for sure, we must fulfill our Sunday Obligation even if it is at the Novus Ordo.  But now after attending the True Mass for over a year, and especially after reading Archbishop Lefebvre's book "The Mass of All Time" I now understand why so many of you have had to make this painful decision.  It is better to stay home and do a spiritual communion than to participate in the horrible sacriliges at the NO.  It takes great courage (and knowledge of the Faith) to be able to make this sacrifice for our Lord.

    I am beginning to see how truly blessed I am to live but minutes away from an SSPX chapel.  I sincerely pray that I may never take for granted this tremendous gift that I have been given.  After all I don't know the future, I may some day be in the same position as many of you.

    Possible dumb newbie question.  When I am at mass is there some way I could remember/recommend all those Catholics who are unable to assist at the True Mass? Maybe I could help to send some graces their way?

    Luke
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    « Reply #13 on: April 28, 2013, 04:48:37 PM »
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  • Quote from: lauraelizabeth

    Do you think..should I stand up for the True Catholic Faith vocally to them (although a girl, I do have courage and fight in me :dwarf:)...or should I do this quietly, and try to win them over by example (prayers, devotion to Our Lord and Our Blessed Mother, and also by loving hardship and sacrifice....though I'm working on that =). Please, if anything has been effective for any of you.....let me know!

    in Jesus and Mary+


    It's good you have now decided not to attend the novus ordo (NO) mass. Although the NO church's Sacraments are still valid, the mass is sacrilegious, at best, for many reasons. Even if the NO Eucharist was not valid, the mass and communion would still be a mockery to our Lord Jesus, however, since it is, indeed, still valid, the NO mass is even more of an offense to our Lord due to the sacrilege against the Holy Eucharist, along with the other irreverence of the new order mass. I do not wish to get into polemics with anybody about the "validity or non-validity of conciliar church's Sacraments", but SSPX's website gives a good reason why the NO church's Sacraments are still valid, however, the mass is a danger to the Faith and sacrilege. I recommend you read it. Some Catholics believe the conciliar church's Sacraments are not valid now, but I do not believe the apostasy has reached that point YET.... but the apostasy is unfolding now, and has been since Vat II Council, and it will result in the "continual sacrifice shall be taken away" (Daniel 12:11), and "abomination of desolation, standing where it ought not" (Mark 13:14), and "he sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself as if he were God" (2 Thess 2:4). The abominable prelude to Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:4; and other Scriptures' prophesies of this nature coming to fruition, is when John Paul II allowed a statue of Buddha to sit on top of the Holy Tabernacle at Assisi, which was an "ecuмenical" prayer gathering of all "faiths" hosted by Rome. Indeed, Rome is afflicted with a diabolical disorientation, and it's only going to get worse.

    About 2 years ago, I pledged I would never again attend a NO mass in my life. Sometimes, I'm able to assist at an SSPX Tridentine Mass, but when I'm not able to make it there, then I just stay home and pray. However, I do still pray at a NO chapel that has Eucharistic Adoration 24/7. This is the only time I step into a conciliar church anymore (and to do some Trad Ninja activity, but that is a different subject).

    To answer your question, you can still visit our Lord in Eucharistic Adoration at a NO chapel. You can bring your family, too. This will set a good example in living the faith for the young ones in your family. This will be good for you and your family, but you can also explain why you will not attend a NO mass, yet still visit Christ in the Blessed Sacrament. Please be assured of my prayers.


    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    « Reply #14 on: April 28, 2013, 04:56:02 PM »
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    Possible dumb newbie question.  When I am at mass is there some way I could remember/recommend all those Catholics who are unable to assist at the True Mass? Maybe I could help to send some graces their way?

    Luke



    Certainly. The two times during Mass we were taught that our prayers were the most efficacious.........

    First, during the Consecration - - that is when we are before God Himself when the Host and Chalice are risen for us to adore - our prayers are never stronger then they are during that time.

    The Last Blessing - as you make the sign of the cross with the priest, *offer that blessing* for all the trads, souls in purgatory, family members, priests etc. -  those whom you are offering it for will receive the same graces as if they were there.

    Also, it is always a good and Catholic thing to remember to light a candle and offer a prayer to Our Lord or Our Blessed Mother.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse