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Re: PFAL Upset About Overturning Roe??
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2022, 08:21:42 AM »
By "non-ideological," I just read that as meaning that this debate needs to be above politics and should not be a (in the US) Republican vs. Democrat thing.

Nevertheless, it's an incredibly mealy-mouthed statement ... as is typical of the Conciliars.

Notable to me is no mention whatsoever of God.  For them, the issue is whether we look at it from the perspective of "individual rights" vs. its "social significance."  No mention of the fact that God has the sole right over life, and THAT is why abortion is evil.  This principle has long been absent from the Pro Life movement, which has always emphasized human rights, leading to issues such as being forced by their own arguments into condemning capital punishment, among other things ... and sticking them in the position of having to argue/debate that the rights of the unborn child outweigh those of the mother in abortion (so human rights vs. human rights, rather than God's rights).  Pro Life has relied on "look at the suffering inflicted on these babies" argument, which evaporates the second they were to come up with a relatively-painless method of abortion (e.g. requiring anesthetizing the infant).  Abraham won grate favor before God for intending to sacrifice his son at God's request, an incident which sticks in the craw of most modern Pro Lifers, because they've gone off the rails in terms of the principle that God has rights over human life, and can take as He wishes ... which then leads to an explanation of why capital punishment is permitted.

Excellent comment!!

Re: PFAL Upset About Overturning Roe??
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2022, 08:26:23 AM »
The decision overturning RVW throws down a challenge to the rest of the world, and quite frankly, makes them look bad.  Rome has never quite known quite what to do with America since Day One, and this just aggravates them further, especially given the Modernist tilt of Newchurch.

The recurring theme among pro-abortion folks in the US, at least the more sophisticated of them, is similar to how anti-gun people think --- "if only we could be like the rest of the world".  While I am a monarchist and have long been of the opinion that the American "Revolution" was an illegitimate and sinful rejection of a Crown that had a claim over her colonies (as imperfect and heretical as that Crown may have been), motivated in large part by business interests with a Masonic philosophical overlay, still, I am wondering if Divine Providence has unfolded so that we may set an example for the rest of the world regarding the murderous crime and sin of abortion.  

Sadly, even this country is now divided between "abortion states" and "pro-life states".  I am seriously considering finding a way not to spend money in the "abortion states", and to stay away from those places.  There are countless things to see and do in the "pro-life states".


Re: PFAL Upset About Overturning Roe??
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2022, 08:30:46 AM »
I am seriously considering finding a way not to spend money in the "abortion states", and to stay away from those places.  There are countless things to see and do in the "pro-life states".

Intriguing.  🤔

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Re: PFAL Upset About Overturning Roe??
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2022, 08:56:34 AM »
The decision overturning RVW throws down a challenge to the rest of the world, and quite frankly, makes them look bad.

You wouldn't know this from the media, but there are quite a few countries where abortion is completely prohibited, and many more where it's only allowed "to save the life of the mother".

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-where-abortion-is-illegal

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Re: PFAL Upset About Overturning Roe??
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2022, 09:44:03 AM »
The only sacrament the Novus Ordo sect recognizes is "dialogue."