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Online Mark 79

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Re: PewDiePie Meets The Mafia
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2019, 06:21:16 PM »
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  • …It is disturbing to see self-described Catholics talking blithely about how hatred for Jєωs is perfectly OK because they hate us Catholics so much.…
    I missed the posts of the self-described Catholics talking blithely about how hatred for Jєωs is perfectly OK for any reason.
    Who said that? When and where?
    I am interested in the exact quote.


    Offline poche

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    Re: PewDiePie Meets The Mafia
    « Reply #16 on: September 23, 2019, 11:41:50 PM »
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  • Almost all of today's observant Jєωs are тαℓмυdic Jєωs, followers of the Pharisees.

    None of the Holy Family were Pharisees. In fact, Jesus Christ, True Man and True God, damned the Pharisees and damned the followers of the Pharisees as "two-fold children of hell" (Mt 23:15)

    You, Poche, are a monstrous blasphemer for attempting to conflate the Holy Family with the damned Pharisees.


    Jesus didn't damn the Pharisees. In fact he said from the Cross, "Father forgive them for they know not what they do." He condemned certain behaviors and attitudes that are very easy to fall into in spiritual life, the facile condemning of others, the focus on the Law as opposed to the spirit of the Law, a lack of charity toward others, rash judgments. In some instances he told certain teachers of the Law, "You are not far from the Kingdom."
    The Holy Family taught us how to live in part by their obedience to the Mosaic Law.  


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    Re: PewDiePie Meets The Mafia
    « Reply #17 on: September 24, 2019, 02:14:35 AM »
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  • "[34] And Jesus said: Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. But they, dividing his garments, cast lots."
    [Luke 23:34]

    Poche, The THEY  Jesus speaks of here are the Roman soldiers, as you will see if you take the WHOLE of the verse.

    And what have the pharisees to do with the Mosaic law?

    And what has the Holy Family to do with the pharisees?

    These are rhetorical questions, and so not requiring an answer.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    Online Mark 79

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    Re: PewDiePie Meets The Mafia
    « Reply #18 on: September 24, 2019, 10:05:38 AM »
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  • Jesus didn't damn the Pharisees. In fact he said from the Cross, "Father forgive them for they know not what they do." He condemned certain behaviors and attitudes that are very easy to fall into in spiritual life, the facile condemning of others, the focus on the Law as opposed to the spirit of the Law, a lack of charity toward others, rash judgments. In some instances he told certain teachers of the Law, "You are not far from the Kingdom."
    The Holy Family taught us how to live in part by their obedience to the Mosaic Law.  
    Precisely as Nadir notes, Luke 23:24 was not a general absolution of the Pharisees.
    Further, since the Pharisees proselytes (тαℓмυdic Jєωs) weren't alive and "doing" the Deicide, today's Jєωs are not absolved in advance for all they do in following the damned Pharisees.  Today's observant Jєωs remain "twofold children of hell" (Matthew 23:15).

    Your Judaizing misinterpretation of Luke 23:24 would make Jesus a liar in these verses:

    axe laid to the root Matthew 3:10

    broken off Romans 11:17-20

    cast into the fire Matthew 3:10; 7:19; Luke 3:9

    condemned Mark 16:16

    cut down Matthew 3:10

    in vain do they worship me  Matthew 15:9; Mark 7:7

    judgment of Hell Matthew 23:33

    shall be broken Matthew 21:44

    shall be ground into powder  Matthew 21:44

    the kingdom of God shall be taken from them Matthew 21:43

    woe Matthew 23:13, 14, 15, 16, 23, 25, 27; Luke 11:42, 43, 44, 46, 47, 52

    wrath Matthew 3:7; Luke 3:7; 21:23; John 3:36; Romans 2:5; I Thessalonians 2:16

    their house shall be left desolate Matthew 23:38

    they do not enter the kingdom of Heaven Matthew 23:13

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    Re: PewDiePie Meets The Mafia
    « Reply #19 on: September 24, 2019, 11:42:58 AM »
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  • Poor Felix, maybe one day he'll figure out what life is really about. Take the Pewdiepie challenge and stop watching the video when he takes the Lord's Name in vain (hint: you'll never see another full length PDP clip again). 
    Fortuna finem habet.


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    Re: PewDiePie Meets The Mafia
    « Reply #20 on: September 24, 2019, 11:57:45 AM »
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  • I missed the posts of the self-described Catholics talking blithely about how hatred for Jєωs is perfectly OK for any reason.
    Who said that? When and where?
    I am interested in the exact quote.


    I wasn't referring to you, Mark, either directly or implicitly. I thought that you knew that I have great respect for your work. As for your question, one doesn't have to look long and hard through the archives to find examples of the phenomenon I referred to.

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    Re: PewDiePie Meets The Mafia
    « Reply #21 on: September 24, 2019, 12:26:09 PM »
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  • I wasn't referring to you, Mark, either directly or implicitly. I thought that you knew that I have great respect for your work. As for your question, one doesn't have to look long and hard through the archives to find examples of the phenomenon I referred to.
    Thank you for the clarification and your kind compliment. I will work harder to deserve it, but I am genuinely surprised at the accusation because I do not recall anyone making such comments… though I do pass over much dross.

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    Re: PewDiePie Meets The Mafia
    « Reply #22 on: September 24, 2019, 03:31:00 PM »
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  • Thank you for the clarification and your kind compliment. I will work harder to deserve it, but I am genuinely surprised at the accusation because I do not recall anyone making such comments… though I do pass over much dross.

    You are wise indeed to pass over the dross, of which there is no shortage.

    I would add only that there are several examples of approving reference to hate in the thread that rum linked to on page 1 of this thread. Half a dozen years ago, however, when I was a novice commenter, there was a great deal more of that sort of thing than there is now. I must say in fairness that Matthew has done good work in locating and expelling many of the worst fomenters.

    A teacher of mine from many, many decades ago used to say repeatedly that the two Gospel counsels that were the hardest to put into practice were "love thy neighbor as thyself" and "do good to those that hate you." Speaking for myself and with especial reference to the Jєωs, I have never had occasion to doubt the accuracy of his sentiment.


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    Re: PewDiePie Meets The Mafia
    « Reply #23 on: September 24, 2019, 05:49:41 PM »
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  • You are wise indeed to pass over the dross, of which there is no shortage.

    I would add only that there are several examples of approving reference to hate in the thread that rum linked to on page 1 of this thread. Half a dozen years ago, however, when I was a novice commenter, there was a great deal more of that sort of thing than there is now. I must say in fairness that Matthew has done good work in locating and expelling many of the worst fomenters.

    A teacher of mine from many, many decades ago used to say repeatedly that the two Gospel counsels that were the hardest to put into practice were "love thy neighbor as thyself" and "do good to those that hate you." Speaking for myself and with especial reference to the Jєωs, I have never had occasion to doubt the accuracy of his sentiment.

    Certainly our private and professional lives offer many opportunities to live those counsels, but we must keep our eyes wide open lest we fall to their deceits, seductions, and misanthropy.

    Too, upon meeting their organized opposition to God, we owe the Jєωs our fiercest truth and unwavering resistance.

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    Re: PewDiePie Meets The Mafia
    « Reply #24 on: September 25, 2019, 12:57:01 PM »
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  • Certainly our private and professional lives offer many opportunities to live those counsels, but we must keep our eyes wide open lest we fall to their deceits, seductions, and misanthropy.

    Too, upon meeting their organized opposition to God, we owe the Jєωs our fiercest truth and unwavering resistance.

    Just so.

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    Re: PewDiePie Meets The Mafia
    « Reply #25 on: September 25, 2019, 01:53:09 PM »
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     It is disturbing to see self-described Catholics talking blithely about how hatred for Jєωs is perfectly OK because they hate us Catholics so much.

    Apparently, you fail to realize that Jєωs are enemies of God, not merely our enemies. The Lord commands us to love our enemies, not His enemies. Quote the Lord's commandment telling us to love His enemies.

    Now, I can quote the Gospel of Luke 19:27 commanding the Lord's elect to deal with His enemies who refuses the Christ to rule over them. Read it for yourself. It's direct. The Lord doesn't mince His words.

    Regarding hatred for the Jєωs:




    St. John Chrysostom's commentary on Luke 19:27 here:

    "I'm running things now, and I'll do everything it takes to destroy the enemies of God. Now, you join me, and I promise you, you'll never have to worry about whether you're doing the right thing or the wrong thing, because we will do the only thing."
    ~ Joseph Croix de Fer