Author Topic: Pets winning out over having children (Read 6239 times)

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 20, 2013, 03:56:09 PM »

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The Pope uses the word "gαy", so if it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me. I didn't question your use of the words "men" and "women"; I question the use of quotation marks around those words, when the gender of the persons involved are not in question. I suppose I could call you a "Christian" "woman", but that would be snide and uncharitable. Just because one is a traditionalist doesn't mean that all social graces should be tossed out the window.

And how do you like the terms sodomite and fairy? :smile:

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 20, 2013, 04:08:09 PM »

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Both are a reflection of your character, or lack of one. How do you like the term sociopath?

There is nothing "gαy" about ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ sodomy. It's a sick, unnatural lifestyle. The term sodomite is a more correct term for what your brother and his sick partner really are. :wink:

Mabel · « **Reply #17 on:** October 20, 2013, 04:23:06 PM »

I'm sorry that this man's brother has become entrenched in the sin which Saint Paul says should go unnamed, which cries to Heaven for vengeance. The perpetrators of such sins, which cry to Heaven for vengeance, have no charity for those around them who will suffer as result of their sin. I'm disgusted at the hatred these people show for their fellow man, that they would go on sinning boldly, begging for chastisement upon all of us.

Thank you for the reminder to pray for the conversion of sinners. However, please do not plaster this board with your approval of sin. Mortal sin is never acceptable, no matter the sin. We should always hate sin, the Catholic who is not repulsed by sin and separation from God's grace is in a sorry state.

May your removal from this site be swift.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 20, 2013, 04:59:01 PM »

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*MODERATED*

Well that wasn't very "nice and compassionate" of you. I don't know where or when you grew up sir but "men" used to be taught to show respect to women.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 20, 2013, 05:01:04 PM »

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And the term SOCIOPATH perfectly describes you.

And the term "liberal" perfectly describes you. :wink:

Mabel · « **Reply #20 on:** October 20, 2013, 05:08:11 PM »

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May your removal from this site be swift.

*censored*

May God grant you true conversion and provide you with a holy death in as a member of His Church. May you not die unrepentant or without the sacraments.

Thank you for any graces you have caused me to gain.

Matthew · « **Reply #21 on:** October 20, 2013, 05:52:03 PM »

Lupus has been banned.

Only minutes later, he sent me a foul e-mail laced with plenty of curse words.

"By their fruits you shall know them."

alaric · « **Reply #22 on:** October 20, 2013, 06:53:23 PM »

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Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
I have a soft spot for animals and think animals deserve to be treated descently HOWEVER I also see some of this crazy animal mentality such as the "crazy old cat lady" who has 20 cats in her house but never decided to get married (for the record I'm a cat fan but one or two cats is enough for me).

I myself one of these days plan on having a large Catholic family with at least 8 children, if not more, economics on the matter be damned.

Now my major dilemna is finding a woman out there who can put up with having a lot of children and my right-wing views. :wink:
That can be quite the dilemma these days but I'm sure there's a willing woman out there for you somewhere, one that is a queer about animals or Cathy" career-chick".[/quote] Ooops, I messed that up , I meant to say One that IS NOT queer about animals or a career minded freak.

Sorry TG.

eddiearent · « **Reply #23 on:** October 20, 2013, 07:48:47 PM »

Same boat as Traditional Guy. Unfortunately, there are too many crazy young ladies out there and not enough with a Catholic mind. Instead they chose the world and we are like hermits in a way. :furtive:

claudel · « **Reply #24 on:** October 21, 2013, 11:36:43 AM »

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Same boat as Traditional Guy. …

Please think twice before you step into that leaky boat. What kind of man, not yet even 25, decides that young women aren't interested in him because there is something wrong with them? Don't you think that that sort of unbridled self-absorption ("Here I come, you lucky world!") gets communicated to others?

Even if one is truly God's gift to the female sex, it shouldn't be forgotten that not everyone is lucky in love. The story of life is that frequently bad things happen and good things don't. No one is exempt from life's unfairness. What is more, no one likes being around a complainer.

That said, good luck. Keep your self-esteem at a very low simmer, and you'll reduce the chance of making a mess that no one else looks forward to cleaning up.

claudel · « **Reply #25 on:** October 21, 2013, 11:40:01 AM »

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Lupus has been banned.

Only minutes later, he sent me a foul e-mail laced with plenty of curse words.

"By their fruits you shall know them."

Hurrah!

May one hope that soulguard will be next? He hasn't absented himself from CI, as he loudly and vulgarly promised he would.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 21, 2013, 07:44:01 PM »

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Please think twice before you step into that leaky boat. What kind of man, not yet even 25, decides that young women aren't interested in him because there is something wrong with them?

Wait a minute, wait a minute, so you're telling me that most women these days are NOT feminists? :scratchchin:

Matthew · « **Reply #27 on:** October 22, 2013, 08:37:06 AM »

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Please think twice before you step into that leaky boat. What kind of man, not yet even 25, decides that young women aren't interested in him because there is something wrong with them?

Wait a minute, wait a minute, so you're telling me that most women these days are NOT feminists? :scratchchin:

You might be looking in the wrong places.

The situation with "finding a good woman" mirrors the "finding a good job" situation.

Yes, it takes effort. Yes, the effort isn't always rewarded. Yes, one might be tempted to think that some are "lucky", etc.

But the situation is very similar. Most people still manage to make a living. 25% unemployment still means 75% employment! Trying to be one of the guys that has a job. Try to be the most eligible bachelor, so that when a nice Trad lady shows up, you're the first one she's interested in.

Trad chapels are filled with young families. Has the sound of babies crying disappeared from most Trad chapels? I don't think it has. Marriages are performed all the time in the various Trad groups.

You need to make sure that you're as equipped as possible to be one of those guys getting married. There's a saying I'm very fond of: Winners make their own luck.

Matthew · « **Reply #28 on:** October 22, 2013, 08:46:16 AM »

Another way to put it --

You see Theresa Trad at your chapel, but she's busy going to college, etc.?

First you must ask yourself: are YOU ready to get married? Do you have a promising career, or at least a job? Do you have a place to move in to, in the best-case scenario that she fell in love with you and you wanted to get married? Can you afford an apartment or a house? The best way to prove that is to already have one :)

How can you rant about how women bide their time, if you yourself are not ready for marriage?

It's a sad fact of life that many American young men are immature. They play video games and watch movies, and their childhood is measured in decades.

How is a young lady to discern the good guys from the bad? Even if it's true that it's "Catholic" to stay home for a while after Graduation, it's also equally true that Momma's Boys DO exist, as well as loafers, layabouts, and bums. A young lady would do well to make sure she doesn't end up with one of those.

How is she supposed to discern? That's why I say the proof of the pudding is in the eating -- if the man is objectively established (place to live and a job), she can be morally certain he's not a bum.

If he's still living at home -- she has to sort through her feelings to figure out if she's just fallen in love with a nice pauper (the classic "love is all we need"), or if he's just being frugal. Let's just say there's a good chance of getting it wrong.

claudel · « **Reply #29 on:** October 22, 2013, 11:53:45 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

Another way to put it -- …

… Let's just say there's a good chance of getting it wrong.

This entire comment is so sensible that it's almost embarrassing that it needed saying. For most of Western history, of course, it wouldn't have needed saying. Talk about the disappearance of old verities!

Making a good marriage has never been child's play, even if one suspects that it's even tougher here and now than it has been in other places and at other times. What is more, the pickings are just as slim for the gals as for the guys. (Perhaps none of them have spoken up to this effect because they're astonished that the guys don't seem to see the big picture at all.)

Whether one wants to build a marriage or a cottage in the woods, the prerequisites are the same: one must make sure that the terrain is suitable, that the drainage is adequate, that plumbing can be installed, and that the proper materials (whether wood, steel, bricks, or human beings) for long-lasting construction are at hand.

The only people who have ever said that this process is supposed to be quick and easy are trial lawyers and others who get rich off the sufferings and failures of impractical people.
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I see that Matthew has started a thread dedicated to this topic. Thumbs up.