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Stalked!/Re: No Priests!?/Re: Personal Anecdotal "COVID" situation
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2020, 11:33:05 AM »
[....] And that 1 visitor must always be the same person for the emergency/in-patient stay.  Which indeed practically excludes a priest, because:
• a spouse or other family member will already be that 1 visitor, serving to monitor the patient's condition, and would usually be the person to alert a priest; or
• a patient whose condition and prognosis is grim might have kept her/his 1-visitor selection open specifically for a priest, but as near certainty approaches, he/she might be too incapacitated to alert that priest or parish [*]. [....]

Aha!   I see that my down-thumbing stalker is back, and is continuing his or her irrational secret campaign to ruin my site-calculated ‘Reputation’ on CathInfo. This time is on the day after I contributed on-topic replies yesterday to this subforum, which I formatted in a normal size of text: The issue of arranging an urgent visit by a priest in increasingly restrictive U.S. hospitals has certainly become an issue of "Catholic Living in the Modern World".

Re: Personal Anecdotal "COVID" situation
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2020, 09:12:30 AM »
https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/fetzen-fliegen/item/4863-coronagate-update-the-con-collapses-as-the-people-rise-up-an-inside-perspective

Supporting information as to what is really going on to passively  kill the elderly and infirmed in nursing homes due to "Corona virus"


Re: Personal Anecdotal "COVID" situation
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2020, 12:10:20 AM »
I know for a fact that my facility abides by directives given which includes
Allowing a priest or minister to attend the dying.

Nursing homes have normally 1-2 IV machines. Nursing homes do not do long term IVs they are not equipped to do so. Nursing Homes do not put in feeding tubes.

The temperatures mentioned are an assessable sign of COVID19.

Xrays are required before COVID19 testing can be done. Xrays are always done by outside vendors. Nursing homes do not possess these machines.

Results after initial screenings ( up to 48 hrs for these initial diagnostics)
Will take from 2- 7 days.

CDC guidelines require all patients exhibiting 2 or more symptoms to be placed on enhanced contact-droplet precautions. Isolated from others until diagnostic tests determine the person in free from COVID19.

Just because a resident tells you something does not mean it is true. Just because a person speaks rationally does not make the person competent. If someone has a fever, especially one as high as is suggested already means the mind is impaired. Most people at 103 degrees lose all sense of their surroundings. I have done wound care for persons who were in excruciating pain where they would punch or become violent because of pain, lie insensable at 101 degrees.


You have to understand that hospitals are denying them access. The attitude of the hospital is the nursing home is a skilled facility and will need to manage as best as they can.  Also at this point most facilities and the relatives do not want to send them to the hospital anyway because the threat to the residents is higher exposure risk at the hospital. We sent one off because they had broken a hip, we are extremely upset because it's now more likely they won't come back alive

Re: Personal Anecdotal "COVID" situation
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2020, 08:57:15 AM »
Hello?
Nursing homes do not insert feeding tubes, at least gastric tubes surgically to the abdomen, but 60% of patients there have them for feeding patients!! Most All nursing homes now have IV therapy with IV's PICCS or other access provided by out side vascular vending companies. This I can attest to - at least in the northeast. I don't know where you get your IV pump statistics , but they are incorrect.  No priests can enter nursing homes that I am aware of unless they are making special circuмstances privately. AS far as I know now NO ONE but essential medical services can enter.
I do understand that the hospitals are denying access, but that doesn't change the fact that patients are dying from dehydration and lack of basic care (O2) in nursing homes , not COVID19 itself. I am not blaming nursing homes, they cannot turn into hospitals overnight- but it doesn't change the reality of the situation

Re: Personal Anecdotal "COVID" situation
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2020, 09:00:11 AM »
The resident that I spoke to is now dead. The pt had high fevers confirmed by the staff.The patient did not eat. Sometimes the best information can  comes from the patient if they are not confused. I always listen to the patient.
Do you think I am some kind of interloper in this situation???? This is what I do everyday.
Maybe regional access to specific therapies are different- let's assume that is so because this is my experience.
Families everywhere are experiencing similar situations with their elderly loved ones in nursing home quarantine .
That's why I posted Chris Ferrara's story. It was almost an identical situation to what I originally posted.
There is enough blame to go around. Obviously the real blame is at the top of the pyramid- we are just"following orders" (from the CDC- a private  for profit company). hmmmmm

PS My independent priest was not allowed in for final sacraments in a nursing home to one of his close friends. Period