Author Topic: Perception Management via Conditioned Response (Read 1278 times)

Neil Obstat · « **on:** December 04, 2012, 12:31:47 PM »

We must overcome the programming effects of 'perception
management' if we are to grasp the gravity of the profound crisis
in which the world finds itself today.

The war propaganda slogan of World War I was, "The War to End
All Wars." And then for World War II it was, "To Make the World
Safe for Democracy." What do we have today? Leaders of the
US and British governments have said again and again that the
wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are being waged in order to make
the world secure against terrorism.

Make the World Secure Against Terrorism!

This is but war propaganda -- a calculated lie. The terrorist
attacks against the US and the UK were not the work of Islamic
terrorists based in Afghanistan or Pakistan, but the facts plainly
prove that it was the US, Britain and Israeli intelligence services
that staged the terrorist events, such as September 11th, 2001, and
July 7th, 2005, as a pretext to wage wars of conquest in order to
set up a global empire -- the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.

Evidence of British government involvement in the July 7, 2005
attack in London is presented in the docuмentary film TerrorStorm,
Second Edition.

1) Former Justice Department prosecutor and FBI
terrorism expert John Loftus explained that Haroon Rashid Aswat,
the alleged mastermind and recruiter of the apparently unwitting
bombers, was an asset of M16.

2) The British government hired the
firm Vizor Consultants to carry out a drill simulating the exact
attack which was carried out at precisely the same time as the real
attack that day.

3) David Sheyler, former M15 agent, mentioned
that eyewitnesses had seen one of the bombers frantically
attempting to examine the contents of his rucksack after a bomb
detonated in the train, which resulted in the floor metal pointing
upwards. 4) The bombers' behaviour was inconsistent with that of
terrorists who would be taking part in a ѕυιcιdє mission, such as:
A) buying return tickets, B) arguing over the price of a ticket, C)
playing cricket the evening before the attack, etc.

The corporate media, like the public education system, are not
in the business of performing a public service. What they provide
for the public is no more a service to them than the service that
prison guards provide for the incarcerated. They do perform a
service however, but ultimately not for the public or for their
benefit. The public is severely disadvantaged in this regard
because it depends on the media and the educational system
almost totally, to provide the data and information which are the
basis for forming judgments about the government and almost
everything else -- yet providing such data and information is
precisely the function they perform, and in so doing, they perform
the service for the corporatist state that the Western
democracies have become -- for the private corporate interests
that control the state, and ultimately for the financial elite who
occupy the commanding heights of monetary, and therefore
indirect but effective, political power over the private and public
institutions of nations.

The corporate media constitute what is perhaps the most vital organ
of what has become the privatized state, performing perhaps the
most important of functions for the corporatist state they were
taken over or created to serve: that of forming the images that
constitute the basis of understanding in the public mind. By
performing this function they control the mind of the populace and
manipulate their behavour through perception management
so that the citizenry become the docile subjects of the state they
formerly democratically ruled.

Christopher Story explains that the United States, "like the covert
continuing Soviet Union, is also inherently and historically a
revolutionary power. And has adopted an arrogant expansionist
mentality and an agenda of global revolution, which is becoming
almost as much of a threat to world peace as the USSR's overtly
predatory global behaviour under Lenoid Brezhnev." (Christopher
Story in Soviet Analyst, July-August, 2002).

This is the Americanism that is the ideology behind the
expansionist and militaristic policies of American Imperialism.
Most Americans (as John Pilger explains in his lecture, Invisible
Government) and those heavily influenced by American media
and culture are, thanks to the 'perception management' practiced
against the public by the controlled corporate media, unaware of
its existence and its malevolent objectives. The
Anti-Americanism that is prevalent in Latin America, the Asian
and Islamic countries etc., and to a lesser extent in Europe, is
directed against this predatory entity and the ideology that
supports it. It is not essentially a racial hatred of white Americans,
of Americans in general or of American culture, but it often leads to
that due to the excesses of American political and economic
domination and oppression of other nations and the military
aggression against other nations that has outstripped the
oppression and predations of the former Soviets and the British
Empire before them.

John Pilger (a world renowned journalist, Pilger began his career in
1958 in his homeland, Australia. www.johnpilger.com) observes,
"During my lifetime, America has been constantly waging war
against much of humanity: impoverished people mostly, in
stricken places." (2001 in Wikipedia) This has not changed under
Obama, as is so aptly expressed again by John Pilger: "No one
knew what the new brand actually stood for. So accomplished was
the advertising -- a record $75,000,000 was spent on television
commercials alone -- that many Americans actually believed
Obama shared their opposition to Bush's wars. In fact, he had
repeatedly backed Bush's warmongering and its congressional
funding. Many Americans also believed he was the heir to Martin
Luther King Jr's legacy of anti-colonialism. Yet, if Obama had a
theme at all, apart from the vacuous 'Change you can believe in,'
it was the renewal of America as a dominant, avaricious bully. 'We
will be the most powerful,' he often declared." (2009)

If the reader needs more convincing about the imperialistic nature
of Americanism then he should read: Rebuilding America's
Defenses by the Project for the New American Century, and
Zbigniew Brzezinski's (one of Obama's mentors) The Grand
Chessboard.

I have a friend who recently spoke with an archbishop in the
Vatican who thought there was no serious reason for concern
about the possibility of another world war. According to his mind,
there is some legitimate concern about terrorism, and he even
mentioned Al-Qaeda, but he saw no major geopolitical
developments threatening world peace.

My friend replied to him, "It is interesting that you mention
Al-Qaeda, because that organization was created by the CIA with
the help of other State intelligence agencies."

The archbishop was utterly and absolutely incredulous, in shades
of Gaudete Rose! It was as though my friend had announced to
him that Vladimir Putin was a space alien whose armed forces are
poised to attack the earth from the dark side of the moon!

The archbishop's reaction was a conditioned response. like
the conditioned response of Pavlov's dogs -- trained by 'perception
management' not to see the hostile action and presence of the
enemy which operates in plain view. he and many others like him
have been rendered sightless like the natives of Tierra del Fuego
in South America who had never seen large warships before, and
so could not perceive the presence nor grasp the danger of the
Spanish warships poised to attack in the waters right before their
eyes.

If we are to regain our sight, we must not allow government and
media to do our thinking for us, but must employ our own
intellectual powers to analyze the fact sand realities that are
plainly in our view. If we can refrain from conditioned reflex
judgments, examine the evidence and subject everything to critical
analysis will not take long before we grasp the absurdity of the
conclusions we are constantly being induce to accept an come to
the understanding that there is indeed a global war being waged,
but it is not a 'War Against Terror' being waged against shadowy
terrorist groups supported y militant Islamic or Communist regimes,
but against us -- against all of us -- in order to set up a global
government -- a perverse and genocidal anti-Christian, anti-Jєωιѕн,
anti-Muslim, anti-God police state. (John Pilger, "There is no War on
Terrorism; it is The Great Game speeded up. The difference is the
rampant nature of the superpower, ensuring infinite dangers for us
all." - 2002 - cf. Wikipedia.)

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1 on:** December 04, 2012, 05:46:28 PM »

The ink dried again.....

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If we are to regain our sight, we must not allow government and
media to do our thinking for us, but must employ our own
intellectual powers to analyze the fact sand realities that are
plainly in our view. If we can refrain from conditioned reflex
judgments, examine the evidence and subject everything to critical
analysis will not take long before we grasp the absurdity of the
conclusions we are constantly being induce to accept an come to
the understanding that there is indeed a global war being waged,
but it is not a 'War Against Terror' being waged against shadowy
terrorist groups supported y militant Islamic or Communist regimes,
but against us -- against all of us -- in order to set up a global
government -- a perverse and genocidal anti-Christian, anti-Jєωιѕн,
anti-Muslim, anti-God police state.

Should say:

If we are to regain our sight, we must not allow government and
media to do our thinking for us, but must employ our own
intellectual powers to analyze the facts and realities that are
plainly in our view. If we can refrain from conditioned reflex
judgments, examine the evidence, and subject everything to critical
analysis, it will not take us long before we grasp the absurdity of the
conclusions we are constantly being induced to accept, and come to
the understanding that there is indeed a global war being waged,
but it is not a 'War Against Terror' being waged against shadowy
terrorist groups supported by militant Islamic or Communist regimes,
but against us -- against all of us -- in order to set up a global
government -- a perverse and genocidal anti-Christian, anti-Jєωιѕн,
anti-Muslim, anti-God police state.

Still checking the rest - I posted it in haste, and, "haste makes waste."

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #2 on:** December 05, 2012, 01:00:20 AM »

The following is such a praiseworthy post by Hobbledehoy, entered in
another thread of a somewhat related topic, but it is so entirely appropriate
to this topic that it seems to me worthy of copying here for all to see
and to add to this thread, since it adds much indeed:

SOURCE THREAD

Quote from: Hobbledehoy

Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
I think comparing Obama to Lenin and Mao is going too far. As bad as Obama is, he's never starved or murdered anybody. At least I can agree with Obama on some aspects of foreign policy, which is more than I can say for the GOP.

In an interview I heard a long while ago, someone made a statement to the effect that Obama did not really change much in the field of foreign policy from Bush (this was on the eve of the Congressional elections in 2010): in fact, most things that Bush's administration installed were kept (Homeland, etc.), something for which the liberals chided Obama. If anything, Obama owes much to Bush regarding foreign policy, as both seem to keep spending money (that we don't have) on Israel and other things that are not in the interest of the American Republic.

The comparison implied in my statement was not just with Obama but with the coterie of leftists who support him and were responsible for his political ascendancy and his cultural apotheosis amongst the "sheeple" (despite his dismal failures and abysmal mediocrity). It is not a perfect or absolute comparison (analogies, similes, metaphors, &c., never establish identity between the two constructs in question), so of course there are discrepancies.

The comparison was particularly meant to elucidate upon the evolution of ideology that begins with Marx, goes through Lenin and Mao (who took Marxism and modified and implemented it as a logistically feasible polity and actually managed to build a political edifice thereupon). Obama, together with those who formed him and those whom he is forming, are the heirs of the Hegelian evolution of what Marx wrote, and what other misotheists and anthropocentrists that preceded Marx devised as an ideological rebellion against the teachings of right reason (Aristotle, St. Thomas Aquinas, &c.) and those of Divine Revelation as preserved and taught by Holy Mother Church.

Wow. That was good. Are you sure you don't want to copyright this??

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As for the actual praxis of Obama's novel form of "Americanized" Marxist-Leninist ideology in not resulting in the persecutions such as those of Stalin and Mao, there is actually a persecution that is more subtle and that has resulted in discords amongst the classes and will eventually end in full-blown violence if things keep going the way they are: the cultural, political and fiscal rape and torture of the American middle class, and the disenfranchisement of the American workers, whereby thousands are subject to undue taxation and have to pay for the blunders of Washington, wherein elitist liberals who have no notion of what "real life" is outside their bubbly little worlds of celebrity fundraisers, talk-shows, &c., do as they please.

These people engorge themselves in the blood of the innocent (the billions of children murdered by de-crimininalized abortion) and the tears of those workers who are defrauded from their pay (the over-taxed American workers): these sins (and then there is the cultural and political institutionalization of sɛҳuąƖ aberration, known by the "sheeple" as "gαy rights") cry out to Heaven for vengeance.

For those who may not remember, the four (4) sins that cry to heaven
for vengeance are the following:

1) Defrauding a laborer his just wages
2) Oppression of the poor
3) Willful murder, especially of the innocent
4) The sin of Sodom, the sin of unnatural impurity

And according to St. Paul in Romans i. 33, the label applies not only to
them that commit the sin firsthand but also to them who consent to
those that do them, that is, those who vote for political leaders who
commit these crimes.

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Obama is not Lenin or Mao, but he belongs to the same progeny: that of the "father of lies," the "prince of this world," whom the enemies of Christendom have enthroned, just as the deicide Jєωs preferred Barabbas to the divine Redeemer and formally assented to the reign of Caesar before Pilate on Good Friday.

Quote from: Neil Obstat
Well, I'm not surprised you would have a strong opinion on this topic, Hobbles.

I'm a working man who is being told by rich leftist relatives how to feel and think regarding these matters, so yeah... I'm pretty ticked off when it comes to these issues.

I just can't believe some people gasp and almost tear their hair off when I say things like, "Well, looks like the Mayans were right about the calendar thing, because you people just elected some slick, lying commie as President of the United States."

Well, this person isn't gasping or tearing hair out, no, no, no, rather he is
jumping up and down cheering: :rahrah:

In that last sentence I was going to change it to "just RE-elected" but I'm
not quite sure you didn't somehow intend exactly what you have, "elected."

bowler · « **Reply #3 on:** December 05, 2012, 07:24:01 AM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

The following is such a praiseworthy post by Hobbledehoy, entered in
another thread of a somewhat related topic, but it is so entirely appropriate
to this topic that it seems to me worthy of copying here for all to see
and to add to this thread, since it adds much indeed:

SOURCE THREAD

Quote from: Hobbledehoy
Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
I think comparing Obama to Lenin and Mao is going too far. As bad as Obama is, he's never starved or murdered anybody. At least I can agree with Obama on some aspects of foreign policy, which is more than I can say for the GOP.

In an interview I heard a long while ago, someone made a statement to the effect that Obama did not really change much in the field of foreign policy from Bush (this was on the eve of the Congressional elections in 2010): in fact, most things that Bush's administration installed were kept (Homeland, etc.), something for which the liberals chided Obama. If anything, Obama owes much to Bush regarding foreign policy, as both seem to keep spending money (that we don't have) on Israel and other things that are not in the interest of the American Republic.

The comparison implied in my statement was not just with Obama but with the coterie of leftists who support him and were responsible for his political ascendancy and his cultural apotheosis amongst the "sheeple" (despite his dismal failures and abysmal mediocrity). It is not a perfect or absolute comparison (analogies, similes, metaphors, &c., never establish identity between the two constructs in question), so of course there are discrepancies.

The comparison was particularly meant to elucidate upon the evolution of ideology that begins with Marx, goes through Lenin and Mao (who took Marxism and modified and implemented it as a logistically feasible polity and actually managed to build a political edifice thereupon). Obama, together with those who formed him and those whom he is forming, are the heirs of the Hegelian evolution of what Marx wrote, and what other misotheists and anthropocentrists that preceded Marx devised as an ideological rebellion against the teachings of right reason (Aristotle, St. Thomas Aquinas, &c.) and those of Divine Revelation as preserved and taught by Holy Mother Church.

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As for the actual praxis of Obama's novel form of "Americanized" Marxist-Leninist ideology in not resulting in the persecutions such as those of Stalin and Mao, there is actually a persecution that is more subtle and that has resulted in discords amongst the classes and will eventually end in full-blown violence if things keep going the way they are: the cultural, political and fiscal rape and torture of the American middle class, and the disenfranchisement of the American workers, whereby thousands are subject to undue taxation and have to pay for the blunders of Washington, wherein elitist liberals who have no notion of what "real life" is outside their bubbly little worlds of celebrity fundraisers, talk-shows, &c., do as they please.

These people engorge themselves in the blood of the innocent (the billions of children murdered by de-crimininalized abortion) and the tears of those workers who are defrauded from their pay (the over-taxed American workers): these sins (and then there is the cultural and political institutionalization of sɛҳuąƖ aberration, known by the "sheeple" as "gαy rights") cry out to Heaven for vengeance.

For those who may not remember, the four (4) sins that cry to heaven
for vengeance are the following:

1) Defrauding a laborer his just wages
2) Oppression of the poor
3) Willful murder, especially of the innocent
4) The sin of Sodom, the sin of unnatural impurity

And according to St. Paul in Romans i. 33, the label applies not only to
them that commit the sin firsthand but also to them who consent to
those that do them, that is, those who vote for political leaders who
commit these crimes.

The red words/phrases should be expanded upon, explained, or changed, in order to make this posting intelligible to the masses. The great writer makes the complicated easy to understand. This writing reads pompous to me.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #4 on:** December 05, 2012, 08:10:37 AM »

Neil, "Making the world safe for democracy" was also a WWI slogan.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #5 on:** December 05, 2012, 09:48:24 AM »

Quote from: bowler

The red words/phrases should be expanded upon, explained, or changed, in order to make this posting intelligible to the masses. The great writer makes the complicated easy to understand. This writing reads pompous to me.

I am certain Hobbles neither considers himself great nor intended to come off as pompous. He loves words, and he's sickened by the world, so he uses interesting words in order to avoid the gutter.

It's an example of the pen being mightier than the sword.
:cheers:

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #6 on:** December 05, 2012, 09:55:18 AM »

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John Pilger, "There is no War on Terrorism; it is The Great Game speeded up. The difference is the rampant nature of the superpower, ensuring infinite dangers for us all." - 2002 - cf. Wikipedia.

Succinct and chilling.
Thank you for your thoughtful commentary. I look forward to reading responses on this important topic.

Bowler, I like your commentary also; however, in regard to the Hobbledehoy's "voice" - it is very distinct, and far from pompous, in my humble opinion. Certain words are more efficient and necessary, particularly when characterizing a complex issue, don't you think? When I am unsure, I refer to the dictionary, then for fun, the thesaurus; thus, expanding my vocabulary a bit. I find it interesting to do so. I appreciate when intelligent men do not talk down to me.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #7 on:** December 06, 2012, 03:40:46 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Neil, "Making the world safe for democracy" was also a WWI slogan.

That's interesting. So both slogans were making the rounds in WWI.
There may have been others too. One of the tactics of warfare is
propaganda, and any propaganda that is effective is that which is first
found to be working at some level, and then repeated often enough
that it becomes believed. Perhaps this one, "...democracy," was not as
successful as "War to end all wars" was in WWI. But then it needed time
to incubate, time to be repeated, time to be believed, which would be an
explanation for why it was so common during WWII. Do you have a
better explanation?

Quote from: bowler

Quote from: Neil Obstat

The following is such a praiseworthy post by Hobbledehoy, entered in
another thread of a somewhat related topic, but it is so entirely appropriate
to this topic that it seems to me worthy of copying here for all to see
and to add to this thread, since it adds much indeed:

SOURCE THREAD

Quote from: Hobbledehoy
Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
I think comparing Obama to Lenin and Mao is going too far. As bad as Obama is, he's never starved or murdered anybody. At least I can agree with Obama on some aspects of foreign policy, which is more than I can say for the GOP.

In an interview I heard a long while ago, someone made a statement to the effect that Obama did not really change much in the field of foreign policy from Bush (this was on the eve of the Congressional elections in 2010): in fact, most things that Bush's administration installed were kept (Homeland, etc.), something for which the liberals chided Obama. If anything, Obama owes much to Bush regarding foreign policy, as both seem to keep spending money (that we don't have) on Israel and other things that are not in the interest of the American Republic.

The comparison implied in my statement was not just with Obama but with the coterie of leftists who support him and were responsible for his political ascendancy and his cultural apotheosis amongst the "sheeple" (despite his dismal failures and abysmal mediocrity). It is not a perfect or absolute comparison (analogies, similes, metaphors, &c., never establish identity between the two constructs in question), so of course there are discrepancies.

The comparison was particularly meant to elucidate upon the evolution of ideology that begins with Marx, goes through Lenin and Mao (who took Marxism and modified and implemented it as a logistically feasible polity and actually managed to build a political edifice thereupon). Obama, together with those who formed him and those whom he is forming, are the heirs of the Hegelian evolution of what Marx wrote, and what other misotheists and anthropocentrists that preceded Marx devised as an ideological rebellion against the teachings of right reason (Aristotle, St. Thomas Aquinas, &c.) and those of Divine Revelation as preserved and taught by Holy Mother Church.

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As for the actual praxis of Obama's novel form of "Americanized" Marxist-Leninist ideology in not resulting in the persecutions such as those of Stalin and Mao, there is actually a persecution that is more subtle and that has resulted in discords amongst the classes and will eventually end in full-blown violence if things keep going the way they are: the cultural, political and fiscal rape and torture of the American middle class, and the disenfranchisement of the American workers, whereby thousands are subject to undue taxation and have to pay for the blunders of Washington, wherein elitist liberals who have no notion of what "real life" is outside their bubbly little worlds of celebrity fundraisers, talk-shows, &c., do as they please.

These people engorge themselves in the blood of the innocent (the billions of children murdered by de-crimininalized abortion) and the tears of those workers who are defrauded from their pay (the over-taxed American workers): these sins (and then there is the cultural and political institutionalization of sɛҳuąƖ aberration, known by the "sheeple" as "gαy rights") cry out to Heaven for vengeance.

For those who may not remember, the four (4) sins that cry to heaven
for vengeance are the following:

1) Defrauding a laborer his just wages
2) Oppression of the poor
3) Willful murder, especially of the innocent
4) The sin of Sodom, the sin of unnatural impurity

And according to St. Paul in Romans i. 33, the label applies not only to
them that commit the sin firsthand but also to them who consent to
those that do them, that is, those who vote for political leaders who
commit these crimes.

The red words/phrases should be expanded upon, explained, or changed, in order to make this posting intelligible to the masses. The great writer makes the complicated easy to understand. This writing reads pompous to me.

You'll have to take that up with Hobbles. But I highly doubt you'll get much
sympathy. He isn't faking it. He's the real deal. If you don't understand
what he has to say, you ought to crack open a dictionary more often. I can
hardly blame him. He and I come from an age when a high school diploma
meant you could pass a 12th grade vocabulary test. And the words you
find on current 12th grade tests are like 8th grade lists in those days. We
had to learn square root by long division, and you could be expelled for
using a multiplication table during a math test. Now they let you use a
calculator, for crying out loud.

Factoring polynomials with long-division style work was commonplace. Now
that's obsolete, because it's ineffective compared to other methods. But
that's math. You can't short cut a good vocabulary. It's something that
can't be faked.

Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta

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John Pilger, "There is no War on Terrorism; it is The Great Game speeded up. The difference is the rampant nature of the superpower, ensuring infinite dangers for us all." - 2002 - cf. Wikipedia.

Succinct and chilling.
Thank you for your thoughtful commentary. I look forward to reading responses on this important topic.

I'm so happy you appreciate this. There is a lot more. A lot.

We have just re-elected an imbecile and a Communist for a second term,
so I think bowler has a point. Sometimes I wonder what Will Rogers
would have to say about current events. But he died in a tragic private
plane crash in Alaska, a generation before I was even born.

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Bowler, I like your commentary also; however, in regard to the Hobbledehoy's "voice" - it is very distinct, and far from pompous, in my humble opinion. Certain words are more efficient and necessary, particularly when characterizing a complex issue, don't you think? When I am unsure, I refer to the dictionary, then for fun, the thesaurus; thus, expanding my vocabulary a bit. I find it interesting to do so. I appreciate when intelligent men do not talk down to me.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #8 on:** December 08, 2012, 11:22:21 PM »

I just posted this in another thread on this same sub-forum and I thought
it looks like something that belongs here, too. Because people today are
being trained by perception management via conditioned response to
think of contraception and abortion as some kind of virtue, some kind of
right, some kind of social responsibility, and all the while, they are being
led down the garden path, they are sliding down the slippery slope into
hell itself. St. John Bosco had a dream in which he saw his student boys
walking down a road that got steeper and steeper, until the boys could
no longer stop their forward movements and eventually fell headlong into
hell.

This is the slippery slope that starts with divorce, fornication,
contraception and infidelity, and ends up with abortion, euthanasia, infant
murder, debauchery, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, and all manner of perversion. In the
end there is only so much of this that God will allow before He intervenes,
and we have seen His intervention several times in recent history, including
the Protestant Revolt, the French Revolution, World Wars I & II, Vatican II,
the re-election of Obama, and the crisis in the SSPX.

God was already too much offended in 1917: any guesses if He's any LESS
offended today??

I just got the new DICI newsletter, and nowhere does it so much as mention
the current furror in Ireland over the controversy of legalizing abortion.

Here's the link to that post.

Whereas Romans chapter 1 is often cited as the most powerful biblical
doctrine against the sin of Sodom, it actually applies equally well to such
social plagues as contraception and abortion, due to the common factor of
sinful impurity at the root of it. The opening post was the announcement
of a woman, Anne gαylor, who has been diligently assisting pregnant
women who call her to pay for their abortions. She has been doing this
voluntarily for many years, and now her daughter is apparently going to
take up where she leaves off. Ironically, Anne did not have an abortion
herself, and so now her own daughter is going to help others have
abortions.

Quote from: John Grace

Quote from: Telesphorus
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We also have many more abortions from the pill and IUD,

Those are heinous practices, to be sure, but the subjective culpability for going to get a surgical abortion is greater.

Women who go to get an abortion know what they're doing.

They tend to know what they are doing regarding the pill and IUD also.

It isn't just women, you guys. Men who use condoms, or who buy them, or
who decide to go into a drug store with that in mind.. men who carry one
around in their wallet.. men who laugh at contraception jokes.. men who
turn on the TV or even the radio to hear a show they know will have such
jokes in it.. men who click on ads or emails when using an Internet
computer that take them to impure websites or articles that they know will
stir up their sense of impurity while they defend their actions by saying,
"It's ETERTAINMENT!".. men in positions of authority who make foul and
ambiguous pronouncements about condom use by male prostitutes that
the media and the world immediately interpret as a new "freedom" and a
"progressive development".. men who suggest that a woman should ask
her gynecologist for a prescription.. men who turn these thoughts over
and over and over again, in their minds --- God hath scattered these
proud men in the conceit of their heart (Lk i. 51), the thought of their heart
shall be revealed as the soul of Our Blessed Mother pierced with a sword
of sorrow (cf. Lk. ii. 35), these are men all of whose corruption shall
become as it were front page news for all the world to see, for "There is
nothing covered that shall not be revealed: nor hidden that that shall not
be known" (Lk. xii. 2, cf. Mt. x. 26).

Quote from: Saint Paul, to the Romans,

11 ...For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual grace
to strengthen you...

13 ...And I would not have you ignorant...

15 ...I am ready to preach the gospel to you also that are at Rome.

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel...

17 ...For the justice of God is revealed therein...

18 ...For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness
and injustice of those men that detain the truth of God in injustice...

21 ...Because that, when they knew God they have not glorified him as
God, or given thanks, but became vain in their thoughts, and their foolish
heart was darkened.

22 For professing themselves wise they became fools.

23 And they changed the glory of the incorruptible God into the likeness
of the image of a corruptible man, and of birds, and of four-footed beasts,
and of creeping things.

24 Wherefore God gave them up to the desires of their heart, unto
uncleanness, to dishonour their own bodies among themselves.

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie; and worshipped and served
the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their
women have changed the natural use into that use which is against
nature.

27 And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the
women, have burned in their lusts towards another, men... receiving in
themselves the recompense which was due to their error.

28 And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered
them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not
convenient;

29 Being filled with all iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness,
full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity, whisperers.

30 Detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors
of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Foolish, dissolute, without affection, without fidelity, without mercy.

32 Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they
who do such things, are worthy of death; and not only they that do
them, but they also that consent to them that do them.

(St. Paul's Epistle to the Romans, caput i. 11..32)

He who readeth, let him understand...

This woman, Anne Nicol gαylor, and her collaborators, Annie Laurie gαylor,
Dan Barker et al., fit squarely under the Romans One Curse, for they would
not be ignorant, for the justice of God has been revealed (cf.v. 17), and they
know that the Church teaches that God forbids contraception (Humanae
Vitae, 1967). For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all
ungodliness and injustice of those men that detain the truth of God in
injustice (cf.v. 18), but why the Pope didn't quote that in Humanae Vitae is
probably because he, A) was Paul VI, and, B) didn't ask Padre Pio to write
it for him (instead of just asking him if it should be promulgated as is).

Their foolish heart was darkened (cf.v. 21).

Thinking they're smarter than the Church and smarter than God and
thereby professing themselves wise, they became fools (cf.v. 22). And while
they run around in focus groups denouncing "substance abuse" in context of
"drug abuse resistance education," they turn around and practice it, because

CONTRACEPTION IS "SUBSTANCE ABUSE"!

Their god is their comfort, their feel-good-ism. They changed the glory of
the incorruptible God into the likeness of the image of a corruptible man,
and of all manner of things that man invents and develops in his chemical
laboratories to bring his offerings to the temple of the pharmaceutical
control industry to be offered for sacrifice via prescription from their
medical doctor, and in so doing consent to them that do these things
(cf.v. 23 ... 32).

Wherefore God gave them up to the desires of their heart, whereby they
would feed their insatiable lust with the murder of their offspring
consequent thereto, unto uncleanness, to dishonour their own bodies
among themselves (cf.v. 24); they who changed the truth of God into a lie,
and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, Who is
blessed for ever. Amen (v. 25).

They would not be amongst them who overcame the beast of the
Apocalypse, but rather would succuмb to him. They would not be
amongst those: "...standing on the sea of glass having the harps of God,
and singing the canticle of Moses, the servant of God, and the canticle of
the Lamb, saying: Great and wonderful are thy works, O Lord God
Almighty: just and true are thy ways, O King of ages. Who shall not fear
thee, O Lord, and magnify thy name? For thou only art holy : for all
nations shall come, and shall adore in they sight, because thy judgments
are manifest" (Apoc.xv. 2-4).

And having succuмbed to the beast by the sinful desires of their heart,
for this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their
women have changed the natural use of marital fidelity and the marriage
bond into that use which is against nature: contraception and abortion.
And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women --
the women even to whom they are married, but many are not married, and
many of the so-called marriages are not of God and are loathsome to Him
-- these men have burned in their lusts towards another end, an end not
of God's will but of the will of man, therefore these men have received in
themselves the recompense which was due to their error (cf. Rom. i. 27).

And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them
up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient for
the transmission of life according to God's will but according to the will of
man, in all filthiness of heart and contempt of truth and justice (cf.v. 28).

And being so delivered up to a reprobate sense by God, they are then
filled with all iniquity, by their disdain of Church doctrine, filled with all
malice, by their hatred of the pre-born, filled with all fornication, by their
worship of their own lust, filled with all avarice, by their desire to promote
abortions and contraception, filled with all wickedness, even so far as by
their literal dedication of aborted children to the devil, as their ancestors
sacrificed meats to the pagan gods. "All the gods of the heathens are
devils" (cf. Ps. xcv. 5).

They are filled with envy, as they crave to practice the impurities they see
others practice, filled with murder, as they actively devote themselves to
the promotion of abortions and contraception, filled with contention, as
they argue against anyone who disagrees with their abominations, filled
with deceit, as they try to trick confused mothers into having abortions
and using birth control and give the impression of being philanthropic as
they help to fund abortions for women that may not have had one were
it not for their "help", filled with malignity, as they pass around lies about
pro-life persons and groups, they become whisperers, as they tell each
other jokes and snicker out of earshot of co-workers who they know to be
pro-life.

Being so delivered up to a reprobate sense by the Romans One Curse,
they become detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty,
inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents (minors can get abortions
without their parents' consent), foolish, dissolute, without affection,
without fidelity, without mercy. They show no mercy to the children they
kill in cold blood, lying in wait, pre-meditated, with special circuмstances,
willful murder of the innocent: a sin that cries to heaven for vengeance.

And so, delivered up to a reprobate sense and having known the justice of
God, they do not understand (since "abortion is legal"!) that they who
do such things, according to the infinitely perfect justice of God, would be
eligible for capital punishment -- which would be for them a great mercy
and opportunity for repentance, so as to perhaps avoid God's infinite
and perfect judgment in hell -- but instead, because they are Liberals
and due to their Modernist delusion and subjectivist error, they dare to
campaign against the death penalty which would be their own salvation,
thereby shooting themselves in the foot, and they don't even know they've
been shot.

And not only is it they that do these things who are subject to God's eternal
punishments, but so too are those who consent to them that do them.