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Palm Sunday Quick Question
« on: March 27, 2021, 02:07:23 PM »
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    • How many years of Palm Sunday have you meditated upon the triumphant entrance of Jesus into Jerusalem? No cheating. Surely you remember this image in your mind.

    Did Jesus enter upon
    a.    an ass?
    b.    a colt?
    c.    an ass and a colt?
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    Re: Palm Sunday Quick Question
    « Reply #1 on: March 27, 2021, 02:33:55 PM »
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    • I thought it was an ass's colt, but I've heard many different "translations" over the years having been mired in the Novus Ordo for many years.
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    Re: Palm Sunday Quick Question
    « Reply #2 on: March 27, 2021, 02:42:27 PM »
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    • I did check it, and colt, ass, and ass's colt are all in the various Gospels.  Not sure, without checking the Missal, which one is read on Palm Sunday in the traditional Mass.  I believe they rotate the readings in the Novus Ordo.  BTW:  How on earth would Jesus enter Jerusalem on an ass and a colt?
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    Re: Palm Sunday Quick Question
    « Reply #3 on: March 27, 2021, 05:19:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: TKGS on March 27, 2021, 02:42:27 PM
    I did check it, and colt, ass, and ass's colt are all in the various Gospels.  Not sure, without checking the Missal, which one is read on Palm Sunday in the traditional Mass.  I believe they rotate the readings in the Novus Ordo.  BTW: How on earth would Jesus enter Jerusalem on an ass and a colt?
    That is my question. The DRBO and all my translations (and even my various TLM Missals now say what they NEVER said before:
    Matt 21: 6
    And the disciples going, did as Jesus commanded them. [7] And they brought the ass and the colt, and laid their garments upon them, and made him sit thereon.


    For those who paid attention and KNOW what the Bible said, the enemy has changed what is in our Bibles and Missals.


    To have Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ now sitting on two animals and the same time is a sacrilegious attempt to mock Our Lord.


    Another thread has other Bible passages
    https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/women-angels-in-the-bible-i-do-not-believe-that-the-church-teaches-this/30/

    women angels


    the  ------ shall lie down with the lamb


    put not new wine into old  -------


    "Consider the  ------, for they sow not, neither do they reap, neither have they storehouse nor barn, and God feedeth them. How much are you more valuable than they?"
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    Re: Palm Sunday Quick Question
    « Reply #4 on: March 27, 2021, 06:20:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on March 27, 2021, 05:19:54 PM
    That is my question. The DRBO and all my translations (and even my various TLM Missals now say what they NEVER said before:
    Matt 21: 6
    And the disciples going, did as Jesus commanded them. [7] And they brought the ass and the colt, and laid their garments upon them, and made him sit thereon.
    For those who paid attention and KNOW what the Bible said, the enemy has changed what is in our Bibles and Missals.


    To have Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ now sitting on two animals and the same time is a sacrilegious attempt to mock Our L
    Matt 21:7, Vulgate, says both: adduxerunt asinam et pullum; however, "thereon" isn't in the Latin.  Instead, it's "desuper"--"from above."
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    Re: Palm Sunday Quick Question
    « Reply #5 on: March 27, 2021, 06:31:29 PM »
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    • I read a commentary on the Gospels, and one of them addressed St. Matthew's detail "ass and a colt" and "made him sit thereon".

    They addressed the point that it would be comical to try to ride two animals at once, so they basically dismissed that notion right away.
    I don't remember the explanation for why St. Matthew said it that way...

    For those who are concerned about the Gospels in all their details, I recommend reading a Catholic commentary on the Gospels. There are "concordances of the Gospels" or works dedicated to putting all 4 Gospels together so they all gel perfectly, with no (apparent) contradictions. If you're going to insist on reading Scripture, you need a good guide.

    Just don't worry about it. Obviously no one implied Jesus rode two animals at once. And then move on with your life.
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    Re: Palm Sunday Quick Question
    « Reply #6 on: March 27, 2021, 06:34:44 PM »
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    • Interestingly, the Gospel reading from today's ferial Mass (Saturday of Passion Week) is from St. John (12) and says: sedens super pullum ásinae--sitting over the colt of an ass.
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    Re: Palm Sunday Quick Question
    « Reply #7 on: March 27, 2021, 07:25:51 PM »
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    • He rode on the colt (of an ass).
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    Re: Palm Sunday Quick Question
    « Reply #8 on: March 27, 2021, 08:29:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on March 27, 2021, 07:25:51 PM
    He rode on the colt (of an ass).



    How many times have you read the gospel and envisioned Our Lord and Savior sitting on a donkey as He entered into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday? It always reminded me of the Holy Family traveling to Bethlehem.

    Please explain this:

    Matthew 21[1] And when they drew nigh to Jerusalem, and were come to Bethphage, unto mount Olivet, then Jesus sent two disciples, [2] Saying to them: Go ye into the village that is over against you, and immediately you shall find an ass tied, and a colt with her: loose them and bring them to me. [3] And if any man shall say anything to you, say ye, that the Lord hath need of them: and forthwith he will let them go. [4] Now all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying: [5] Tell ye the daughter of Sion: Behold thy king cometh to thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of her that is used to the yoke.
    [6] And the disciples going, did as Jesus commanded them. [7] And they brought the ass and the colt, and laid their garments upon them, and made him sit thereon.
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    Re: Palm Sunday Quick Question
    « Reply #9 on: April 01, 2021, 04:09:58 PM »
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    • We're reading "The Liturgical Year" by Dom Gueranger, OSB this year, and the (summarized) commentary was this:

    The ass represented the Jєωs.  The colt--the Gentiles.  And so he rode on the colt to show the transfer of the faith to the Gentiles.
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